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Essan
30 January 2020 15:57:55


Some precautions I've taken.



  • Stopped all social activities, limit travelling to the essential. Now working from home basically all the time.

  • Wash hands regularly with soap and water after touching a forgein surface or before eating.

  • Raised room temperature to 27C. Should expedite the denaturing of any viruses walked in.

  • Making more of a conscious effort to avoid touching face

  • Built up a sensible level of supplies such that I can completely isolate myself for a few weeks if it becomes necessary


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 



Some precautions I've taken:





















































Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
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xioni2
30 January 2020 16:06:39

UV light can kill viruses, so another sensible precaution is to replace all lamps with massive UV ones and sleep inside a sun bed.


Virus free and with a sexy chocolate tan, what's not to like!

Essan
30 January 2020 16:16:27


UV light can kill viruses, so another sensible precaution is to replace all lamps with massive UV ones and sleep inside a sun bed.


Virus free and with a sexy chocolate tan, what's not to like!


Originally Posted by: xioni2 



I've got one of those UV torches used to see blood at crime scenes or "smart water" marks on stolen property.  I'll use on all my customers as well, just to be safe 


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
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Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job - DNA
xioni2
30 January 2020 16:19:08



I've got one of those UV torches used to see blood at crime scenes or "smart water" marks on stolen property.  I'll use on all my customers as well, just to be safe 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Good idea, but just to be extra safe, install a UV floodlight.

Gandalf The White
30 January 2020 16:37:39


UV light can kill viruses, so another sensible precaution is to replace all lamps with massive UV ones and sleep inside a sun bed.


Virus free and with a sexy chocolate tan, what's not to like!


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


You mean aside from skin cancer?


 


wink


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Quantum
30 January 2020 16:38:16


 


Whatever else, it's a gross and bizarre overreaction.


All that turning up the thermostat to 27c will achieve is to put up the heating bill: it has zero effect on a virus.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


As I say, higher temperatures reduce the half life of the virus on surfaces, which in turn reduces the risk of infection.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Essan
30 January 2020 16:39:44


 


You mean aside from skin cancer?


 


wink


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 




Malignant melanoma can often result in rapid immunity from all viruses and bacteria.   Well, depending on whether your dead body is cremated or buried, anyway ..... 


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
Weather & Earth Science News 

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Quantum
30 January 2020 16:40:47


 


Is this a joke?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


It's a joke until suddenly it's really not.


If this all blows over, the worst case scenario is that I'll just look like a plonker. You lot think that anyway so


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Essan
30 January 2020 16:42:11


As I say, higher temperatures reduce the half life of the virus on surfaces, which in turn reduces the risk of infection.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 



Living in a house with the temperature turned up to 27c would certain reduce my life in half ......

And seriously, I can't think of anything less healthy.  

Still, you'll save a lot of money on washing powder as you'll not need to wear any clothes.  Or have any covers on your bed


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
Weather & Earth Science News 

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xioni2
30 January 2020 16:49:23


You mean aside from skin cancer?


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


Retron
30 January 2020 16:53:11



Some precautions I've taken:



Originally Posted by: Essan 


The same here - what a coincidence!


(I don't really see why everyone's so panicky about this, I really don't. It's essentially flu, it's got a small death rate and if you're healthy it'll just be unpleasant if you catch it rather than fatal. We have a couple of thousand deaths a year from normal flu and it's not even newsworthy...)


Leysdown, north Kent
Quantum
30 January 2020 16:59:23

Probably am being overcautious but devastating pandemics do occasionally happen and this is a good candidate to be one, even though it's not all that likely.


Anyway makes more sense having supplies when there is a risk of a pandemic than over brexit


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Arcus
30 January 2020 17:07:58
I'd go for a humidifier before cranking up the thermo.
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Quantum
30 January 2020 17:10:50

I'd go for a humidifier before cranking up the thermo.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Viral inactivation has only a weak dependence on humidity (at least in SARS). And it isn't even that clear whether going for high or low humidity is best.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Saint Snow
30 January 2020 17:18:30

I might watch 28 Days Later tonight. For a laugh, like.


 



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Arcus
30 January 2020 17:19:24


 


Viral inactivation has only a weak dependence on humidity (at least in SARS). And it isn't even that clear whether going for high or low humidity is best.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


A sneeze (for example) in higher humidity will tend to result in larger particles in the air that fall to a surface more easily. In lower humidity the particles will be smaller and tend to remain airborne for much longer.


 


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Roger Parsons
30 January 2020 17:24:09


The same here - what a coincidence!


(I don't really see why everyone's so panicky about this, I really don't. It's essentially flu, it's got a small death rate and if you're healthy it'll just be unpleasant if you catch it rather than fatal. We have a couple of thousand deaths a year from normal flu and it's not even newsworthy...)


Originally Posted by: Retron 


There's no need for rocket science or medical expertise when thinking about preparedness. It's common sense AHEAD of any event. The one thing you know you will need in sickness or in health is a supply of clean water. Let's assume the water mains fail - do you have enough water for a few days? If you were on your own, busy having flu, you might need more to drink than that.  Reflect on what comes next. Cans of soup  don't need a water supply, so they are always a good fall back - but what if you have no heating? Without being bizarre about it, try a list of say six critical things. It's an interesting exercise to go through.


I used to do an "earthquake preparedness" exercise with some students. What is the priority? Answer - know where your SHOES are. The ground is covered with broken glass and china - were you going to run for it barefoot? Stark bollock naked is OK, barefoot is not. So we've got water and shoes. What next?


R.


RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Roger Parsons
30 January 2020 17:27:28



I've got one of those UV torches used to see blood at crime scenes or "smart water" marks on stolen property.  I'll use on all my customers as well, just to be safe 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


You may get "too much information" and be even more worried by what you learn!



RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Arcus
30 January 2020 17:27:37




Humidity was a recognised factor in SARS transmission:










"The better stability of SARS coronavirus at low temperature and low humidity environment may facilitate its transmission in community in subtropical area (such as Hong Kong) during the spring and in air-conditioned environments. It may also explain why some Asian countries in tropical area (such as Malaysia, Indonesia or Thailand) with high temperature and high relative humidity environment did not have major community outbreaks of SARS."


https://www.hindawi.com/journals/av/2011/734690/


Given the temperatures required are 38c to see any significant loss in viability of the virus, then as I say I'd focus on humidity!


 






Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Gandalf The White
30 January 2020 17:40:21


 


The same here - what a coincidence!


(I don't really see why everyone's so panicky about this, I really don't. It's essentially flu, it's got a small death rate and if you're healthy it'll just be unpleasant if you catch it rather than fatal. We have a couple of thousand deaths a year from normal flu and it's not even newsworthy...)


Originally Posted by: Retron 


In fact we don’t really know what the rate of fatalities is yet but early indications put it orders of magnitude higher than flu.


As I posted a few days ago the infamous Spanish Flu had a rate of 2.5%. Generally you’re looking at something with a zero before the decimal point and sometimes another zero immediately to the right of the decimal point.


But it’s not in the UK yet and may not get here, so you’re right about there being no need to panic.


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Bugglesgate
30 January 2020 18:05:00


UV light can kill viruses, so another sensible precaution is to replace all lamps with massive UV ones and sleep inside a sun bed.


Virus free and with a sexy chocolate tan, what's not to like!


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


IPA (Isopropyl alcohol) is the way forward - simply run a bath full of it  and get in - stay in until   the virus has run its course (probably a year or so)  It won't kill you (honest) !


...OK, I lied,  it will .



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Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
doctormog
30 January 2020 18:31:13


 


IPA (Isopropyl alcohol) is the way forward - simply run a bath full of it  and get in - stay in until   the virus has run its course (probably a year or so)  It won't kill you (honest) !


...OK, I lied,  it will .



Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


I prefer doing this with it 


https://youtu.be/IAk0iTrsE3o 


Quantum
30 January 2020 18:48:26






Humidity was a recognised factor in SARS transmission:










"The better stability of SARS coronavirus at low temperature and low humidity environment may facilitate its transmission in community in subtropical area (such as Hong Kong) during the spring and in air-conditioned environments. It may also explain why some Asian countries in tropical area (such as Malaysia, Indonesia or Thailand) with high temperature and high relative humidity environment did not have major community outbreaks of SARS."


https://www.hindawi.com/journals/av/2011/734690/


Given the temperatures required are 38c to see any significant loss in viability of the virus, then as I say I'd focus on humidity!


 






Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Yes this is true, however since I'm not air conditioning the humidity is already moderately high. The lit suggests for Sars there is a U shaped distribution with moderately high levels of humidity actually being better than very high humidity.


Temperature however is a much easier relationship. More heat = lower halflife.


And yes at 38C you have brought the half life down alot. But every degree rise causes the half rise to fall, so the active virus spends less time on surfaces. That's the main purpose of it.


Worth pointing out the surface of your skin is quite hot so the virus is unlikely to survive long on your skin, but may survive for quite a while on cold metal surfaces.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Heavy Weather 2013
30 January 2020 19:51:35
WHO have now declared this an international emergency.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
The Beast from the East
30 January 2020 19:52:08

Declared a global emergency now.


Well done Q!


 


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