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Gavin D
04 March 2020 11:43:58
NHS England:

If you've seen news stating the NHS has declared coronavirus a ‘level four incident’ — we’d like to clarify this happened in January, and is not a new update. Declaring a level four incident is a tried and tested approach to managing major national incidents, and does not mean the risk to the public is any greater — but is about ensuring the NHS is as prepared as possible to respond.
Maunder Minimum
04 March 2020 11:47:10


Fingering will still be legal.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


What about pinching a lady's bottom?


A court in Rome did rule in January of 2001 that it was not a crime for a man to pinch or touch a woman's bottom provided it was “a sudden or isolated action.”.


New world order coming.
xioni2
04 March 2020 11:48:32


 What about pinching a lady's bottom?


A court in Rome did rule in January of 2001 that it was not a crime for a man to pinch or touch a woman's bottom provided it was “a sudden or isolated action.”.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


When are you moving to Rome?


Saint Snow
04 March 2020 12:03:20

What would help the NHS if this thing does get out of hand is the government sequestering private hospitals.



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Saint Snow
04 March 2020 12:10:17

Bank notes 'may spread virus'

The World Health Organization has warned that banknotes may be spreading coronavirus.

A spokesman has advised consumers to use contactless payments to minimise any risks.

“We know that money changes hands frequently and can pick up all sorts of bacteria and viruses,” a WHO spokesman said.

“We would advise people to wash their hands after handling banknotes, and avoid touching their face.”

Last month banks in China and Korea began disinfecting and isolating used banknotes as part of efforts to stem the spread of the deadly virus.

However, a Bank of England spokesman told the Telegraph it had no plans to follow suit, adding "the risk posed by handling a polymer note is no greater than touching any other common surface, such as handrails, doorknobs or credit cards”.

It is not known how long the virus can survive outside the body, but experts believe the odds of contracting the virus via inanimate objects are low.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-51734185


 


 


I'm going to be selfless here. I'm volunteering to go house-to-house to collect all the banknotes that are inevitably contaminated with Coronvirus, then dispose of them accordingly.


Such is the benevolent chap I am, I won't be making a charge for this service.


 



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Saint Snow
04 March 2020 12:20:27


What would help the NHS if this thing does get out of hand is the government sequestering private hospitals.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


Further on this, the Guardian has reported that the majority of retired/left NHS workers are against returning to help on this


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/majority-of-retired-nhs-staff-dont-want-to-return-to-tackle-covid-19-crisis


 


IMO, if the NHS needs additional staff to cope with an emergency, then there should be a suspension of all private hospital procedures, and the doctors & nurses employed by private health companies be temporarily co-opted into the NHS, using the sequestered private hospitals.


 


 



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"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
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Retron
04 March 2020 12:22:45


P.S. there are now concerns over shortages of required drugs - many of the globally available generic drugs are manufactured in India and the Indian government has today announced restrictions on export, so they have them available to treat their own. This suggests that India is heading into the same territory as Italy, it is just slow to update its own test numbers or to carry out testing - Indian numbers are likely to rocket in the coming weeks (same for Pakistan).


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


That smells like scaremongering to me. Generics are made en masse around the world, including here in the UK (by companies such as Aesica). There's not much to worry about IMO.


 


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Gandalf The White
04 March 2020 12:43:22


 


Pathetic! Any western healthcare system would buckle under the strain caused by this pandemic.


Italy is experiencing severe issues already - the Baggio military hospital is being prepared to provide care for patients because the civilian system is not able to cope.


P.S. there are now concerns over shortages of required drugs - many of the globally available generic drugs are manufactured in India and the Indian government has today announced restrictions on export, so they have them available to treat their own. This suggests that India is heading into the same territory as Italy, it is just slow to update its own test numbers or to carry out testing - Indian numbers are likely to rocket in the coming weeks (same for Pakistan).


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I commented on this earlier this morning.  It's just another example of why outsourcing and assuming open trade with far flung countries is fraught with potential risks.  It links perfectly with the report at the weekend about the UK not needing a farming sector: this is exactly what happens in a time of crisis - countries quite rightly put the needs of their people first.


Add to that the obvious folly of relying on trade with far-flung countries instead of those with our nearest trading partners and it's another example of the folly of falling out with our EU partners.


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Gandalf The White
04 March 2020 12:47:36


 


That smells like scaremongering to me. Generics are made en masse around the world, including here in the UK (by companies such as Aesica). There's not much to worry about IMO.


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Possibly but it does flag up a very important point.


The book 'Collapse' identifies over-reliance on trading partners for essentials as one of the key causes of collapse of local civilisations.  Limited access to medicines may not tick the box but it's clearly indicative of our reliance on a complex global economic system - as is the likely shortage of goods from China whilst this Covid-19 crisis continues.


 


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Saint Snow
04 March 2020 12:51:31

Extreme measures...


 




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westv
04 March 2020 12:53:06

Reports Italy are considering a ban on kissing to try and contain the virus.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


That'll get tongues wagging.


At least it will be mild!
Maunder Minimum
04 March 2020 13:02:17


That smells like scaremongering to me. Generics are made en masse around the world, including here in the UK (by companies such as Aesica). There's not much to worry about IMO.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


The source where I read about India restricting exports was not specifically referring to the UK as an importer - the issue is likely to affect countries which a more reliant on sourcing drugs from India than we are. It is quite likely that some countries in Africa are dependent on supplies from India.


 


New world order coming.
Gandalf The White
04 March 2020 13:03:15

What f***ing morons


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51736755



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Gandalf The White
04 March 2020 13:04:38


 


That'll get tongues wagging.


Originally Posted by: westv 


They'll just have to 'elbow bump' or 'foot touch' like Wuhan.


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bowser
04 March 2020 13:05:57


 


I commented on this earlier this morning.  It's just another example of why outsourcing and assuming open trade with far flung countries is fraught with potential risks.  It links perfectly with the report at the weekend about the UK not needing a farming sector: this is exactly what happens in a time of crisis - countries quite rightly put the needs of their people first.


Add to that the obvious folly of relying on trade with far-flung countries instead of those with our nearest trading partners and it's another example of the folly of falling out with our EU partners.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Where do the EU get the same drugs from?

xioni2
04 March 2020 13:07:57


What f***ing morons


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51736755



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Believe it or not, there are people who think that it was politically correct to name the disease Covid-19 and it should have been called The Chinese Flu.


Human stupidity is unstoppable, a vaccine against it will never be found.


 

Maunder Minimum
04 March 2020 13:10:51


What f***ing morons


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51736755



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Complete morons every which way. But judging from the pictures, the perpetrators are not English.


 


New world order coming.
westv
04 March 2020 13:10:58

Just read on the BBC that Italy are going to close all schools for 2 weeks.


At least it will be mild!
Maunder Minimum
04 March 2020 13:11:54


BreakingItalian government 'to close schools'






The Italian government is to close all schools and universities around the country until mid March because of the coronavirus outbreak, Ansa news agency reports.


Earlier officials reported a jump in cases and deaths from the virus.


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So how will parents be able to work?




New world order coming.
The Beast from the East
04 March 2020 13:18:45

Only 2 new cases in the UK today. Boycott and Tavare at the crease again


BORING


Where is the zombie apocalypse I was promised?


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
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The Beast from the East
04 March 2020 13:21:26


 


What about pinching a lady's bottom?


A court in Rome did rule in January of 2001 that it was not a crime for a man to pinch or touch a woman's bottom provided it was “a sudden or isolated action.”.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Italian porn is widely considered to be the best in the world, from the early days in the 70s to the modern era where its a huge export industry. Italian women are stunning and happy to do anything


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
xioni2
04 March 2020 13:21:40


Just read on the BBC that Italy are going to close all schools for 2 weeks.


Originally Posted by: westv 


Lucky kids and lucky teachers!

xioni2
04 March 2020 13:22:42


 Italian porn is widely considered to be the best in the world, from the early days in the 70s to the modern era where its a huge export industry. 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Finally an expert opinion here!


The Beast from the East
04 March 2020 13:23:09


Just read on the BBC that Italy are going to close all schools for 2 weeks.


Originally Posted by: westv 


Sorry if this has been covered already, but why did Italy become such a hotspot in the first place and did they find patient zero?


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
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doctormog
04 March 2020 13:23:12


 


Lucky kids and lucky teachers!


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


For those doing national qualifications it would be a nightmare both for them and their teachers.


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