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Justin W
20 March 2020 17:24:19

I haven’t heard anything about the self employed. Have I missed it?


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Retron
20 March 2020 17:25:13


I haven’t heard anything about the self employed. Have I missed it?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


They get Universal Credit equivalent to statutory sick pay. And UC in general is being increased by £1,000 a year.


(I think that's right, anyway - I was distracted a bit by the self-assessment stuff!)


Leysdown, north Kent
Heavy Weather 2013
20 March 2020 17:25:45


I haven’t heard anything about the self employed. Have I missed it?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


No you haven’t. I didn’t hear that either.


Also, the chancellor said shops would close. Boris didn’t. Does this mean shopping centres could open. 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gooner
20 March 2020 17:27:20


 


No you haven’t. I didn’t hear that either.


Also, the chancellor said shops would close. Boris didn’t. Does this mean shopping centres could open. 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Shops not supermarkets ?


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


nsrobins
20 March 2020 17:29:18


 


No you haven’t. I didn’t hear that either.


Also, the chancellor said shops would close. Boris didn’t. Does this mean shopping centres could open. 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Self employed were mentioned but didn’t get the exact detail.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Heavy Weather 2013
20 March 2020 17:30:41


 


Shops not supermarkets ?


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I assume supermarkets will stay open. But it’s not clear about normal retail.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Justin W
20 March 2020 17:34:56
VAT payments deferred which will make a big difference for me. Plus no payment on account in July.
Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gooner
20 March 2020 17:35:28


 


I assume supermarkets will stay open. But it’s not clear about normal retail.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Boris clarifies they will be open but I'm glad I went today watch the stampede in the morning 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Retron
20 March 2020 17:36:05

Plus no payment on account in July.

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


That's the bit I was listening to - I owe a payment on account for July, but I'm not self-employed. I'll check in a few days to see if that applies to me too...


Leysdown, north Kent
Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 17:36:43


 


I put the likelihood of a total economic collapse at 20%. It is rising.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


With measures to protect businesses, measures to prevent mortgage defaults, measures to help those renting and measures to continue to pay staff who are not working - and the host of other measures (such as help for the financial sector) - I think you're overestimating the risk by at least 15%.  


Every country on the planet is facing similar or identical challenges so the markets are unlikely to punish any single country for doing what is needed. It's not in anyone's interest to bring thbe whole edifice crashing down. Expect those with huge balance of trade surpluses to be especially keen to stabilise things: China and OPEC countries in particular need there to be functioning economies when this blows over - which it will, even if it takes months.


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Gavin D
20 March 2020 17:37:33
Normal shops can stay open for now.

Those told to close are; cafes, pubs, clubs, restaurants, nightclubs, theatres, cinemas, gyms and leisure centres where people purposely go for social gathering
Heavy Weather 2013
20 March 2020 17:38:00
Normal retail should be closed. Major shopping centres will just have people shopping.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 17:38:45

This is going to cost an absolute fortune but there's not really much choice.

Originally Posted by: westv 


Yes, but a lot cheaper than the whole house crashing down.


 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
20 March 2020 17:41:56

Normal shops can stay open for now.

Those told to close are; cafes, pubs, clubs, restaurants, nightclubs, theatres, cinemas, gyms and leisure centres where people purposely go for social gathering

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I can imagine pop-up speakeasys appearing all over the place. People like Beast won't be thwarted that easily.


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
westv
20 March 2020 17:42:06


 


Yes, but a lot cheaper than the whole house crashing down.


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Hence wby I said there's really not much choice.


At least it will be mild!
Retron
20 March 2020 17:43:15

Normal shops can stay open for now.

Those told to close are; cafes, pubs, clubs, restaurants, nightclubs, theatres, cinemas, gyms and leisure centres where people purposely go for social gathering

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


It'll be interesting how little that'll affect where I live.


Cafe - nearest 1 mile away.


Pub - at the end of the road, but they're switching to takeaway food.


Club - nearest 4 miles away.


Nightclub - 8 miles.


Theatre - 8 miles.


Cinema - 14 miles (or 70 feet, as I have one in the "posh shed" in the garden!)


Gym - 3 miles


Leisure centre - 8 miles.


The pub is the main one for people and even then most around here don't use it. Those that do will be sad tonight though!


Leysdown, north Kent
Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 17:45:00


 


 


Why wait until now? Why condemn so many people to their deaths?


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


To be fair, if that's allowed, the message has been to stay at home and use 'social distancing'- we can debate whether it was reasonable to expect everyone to comply but the government allowed a short window to see if people would do the right thing.  As it stands it looks like a reasonable and necessary ratcheting up of the regime.


That leaves public transport but if essential staff need to get to work that has to keep running. Maybe they will have to manage how many people are in each carriage?  Perhaps insist everyone on public transport wears a mask? That would help a little.


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Heavy Weather 2013
20 March 2020 17:45:32
As everyone knows I have fully supported closure of pubs etc. And I believe this is an important step

HOWEVER

Normal retail shops should close.
Pubs should close immediately. All that will happen tonight is people will go out for one last hurrah. Just another evening of spread and infection. Another fudge

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Essan
20 March 2020 17:48:04

As everyone knows I have fully supported closure of pubs etc. And I believe this is an important step

HOWEVER

Normal retail shops should close.
Pubs should close immediately. All that will happen tonight is people will go out for one last hurrah. Just another evening of spread and infection. Another fudge

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 



Can you imagine trying to close every pub in the country - most currently open and many with quite a few customers in - immediately?  That would mean a riot.

Far safer to tell them to close tonight as normal and then just not reopen


 


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
Weather & Earth Science News 

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job - DNA
Retron
20 March 2020 17:48:08


Pubs should close immediately. All that will happen tonight is people will go out for one last hurrah. Just another evening of spread and infection. Another fudge

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


BoJo even said in his speech that people might be tempted to do that, but he asked them not to.


Leysdown, north Kent
The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 17:48:28


 


I can imagine pop-up speakeasys appearing all over the place. People like Beast won't be thwarted that easily.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Hopefully we can buy bottles and stand outside and drink. Or just go to the Tesco carpark


 


 


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Chunky Pea
20 March 2020 17:48:36


 



Originally Posted by: xioni2 



Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
Gavin D
20 March 2020 17:51:19
UK Data

66,976 have been tested +2,355

62,993 negative 

3,983 positive +714
Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 17:51:37




Can you imagine trying to close every pub in the country - most currently open and many with quite a few customers in - immediately?  That would mean a riot.

Far safer to tell them to close tonight as normal and then just not reopen


 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


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Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Gavin D
20 March 2020 17:57:03

Data for the past 3 days


New cases


18th - 676
19th - 643
20th - 714


Daily deaths


18th - 32
19th - 41
20th - 33


Daily test results


18th - 5,779
19th - 8,400
20th - 2,355

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