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warrenb
05 April 2020 08:26:39


Ferguson on Marr says everything is going to plan, lockdown is working, cases dropping!


We must end the lockdown ASAP, hopefully in a few weeks, or at least ease it


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I think Mr Ferguson needs to look at a graph or two. Someone too wrapped in his models to look out the window.


The Beast from the East
05 April 2020 08:29:55

Marr to Ferguson "you clearly don't use a shaving mirror"


And we pay this clown millions from our licence fee


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gooner
05 April 2020 08:31:31

Neil Ferguson on the AM show


Epidemic in the UK to plateau in the next week to 10 days 


Current view of deaths , could possibly be between 7,000 -  20,000


Very uncertain about how to implement exit strategies - currently being worked on.


 


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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warrenb
05 April 2020 08:31:48


Marr to Ferguson "you clearly don't use a shaving mirror"


And we pay this clown millions from our licence fee


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Well your watching him


The Beast from the East
05 April 2020 08:31:58


Disgusting that the owners of the Nightingale in London are charging the NHS millions in rent ………………...shocking 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


What do expect from these towel head Abu Dhabi criminals. We let them buy football clubs and launder money


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
doctormog
05 April 2020 08:32:59


 


I think Mr Ferguson needs to look at a graph or two. Someone too wrapped in his models to look out the window.


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


I watched the interview and his comments were rational, level-headed and evidence-based with no insinuation that an end to the lockdown was in sight. He seemed very well aware of situation out the window?


The Beast from the East
05 April 2020 08:34:30


 


Current view of deaths , could possibly be between 7,000 -  20,000


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


And how many of these would have died anyway from old age?


We have wrecked our economy when we could have copied Sweden. We must ease the lockdown very soon and get back to work


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gooner
05 April 2020 08:37:28


Ferguson on Marr says everything is going to plan, lockdown is working, cases dropping!


We must end the lockdown ASAP, hopefully in a few weeks, or at least ease it


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


At NO time did he say " its going to plan "


" we have some signs it is slowing the epidemic " " once plateaued do we see a long flat peak or a faster decline , it depends how effective the current measures are " 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


The Beast from the East
05 April 2020 08:38:21


 


Is Boris in a worse state than people are letting on?  


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I assume they are giving him rendisir (I think that's how its spelt)


It worked against Ebola and seems to stop virus reproduction


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gooner
05 April 2020 08:39:56


 


And how many of these would have died anyway from old age?


We have wrecked our economy when we could have copied Sweden. We must ease the lockdown very soon and get back to work


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


You should be in another job boy 


How can anyone possible answer the above , they are questions no one can answer currently . 


So Sweden is now clear of the virus is it? erm , no , so you cant use them as a yard stick , you are funny


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


warrenb
05 April 2020 08:40:00


 


I watched the interview and his comments were rational, level-headed and evidence-based with no insinuation that an end to the lockdown was in sight. He seemed very well aware of situation out the window?


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


When not watching it sometimes I have to go by what is said in here. Unfortunately at times and I should have known the interpretation can be slightly bias. Lesson learned


The Beast from the East
05 April 2020 08:41:22


 




"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gandalf The White
05 April 2020 08:41:57


 


I know and understand the subscription model - I was just shocked at the actual cost. I would have expected about £10 per month. 


Originally Posted by: John p 


The paper version is now about £40 per month, IIRC. 


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The Beast from the East
05 April 2020 08:42:51


 


When not watching it sometimes I have to go by what is said in here. Unfortunately at times and I should have known the interpretation can be slightly bias. Lesson learned


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


I used to work in PR, with Priti Patel I cant help  spinning


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
doctormog
05 April 2020 08:43:05


 


I assume they are giving him rendisir (I think that's how its spelt)


It worked against Ebola and seems to stop virus reproduction


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I assume you mean Remdesivir. I would rather doubt they would give the Prime Minister a drug that is currently undergoing clinical trials (for Covid-19).


westv
05 April 2020 08:43:30


 


And how many of these would have died anyway from old age?


We have wrecked our economy when we could have copied Sweden. We must ease the lockdown very soon and get back to work


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Doesn't Sweden currently have a worse death rate per population than us?


At least it will be mild!
Gavin D
05 April 2020 08:44:08

Gooner
05 April 2020 08:46:56


 


What do expect from these towel head Abu Dhabi criminals. We let them buy football clubs and launder money


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


A bit more than that actually in the current climate 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gavin D
05 April 2020 08:47:55
Supermarkets and other large essential shops will be allowed to open for London on Sunday's in Wakefield, Conwy & Belfast after local councils eased restrictions on the laws.
John p
05 April 2020 08:48:42


 


And how many of these would have died anyway from old age?


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I am sick of to death of this argument, you utterly horrid troll.  People may have died in a few months time anyway, yes.  But it’s still a few precious months with loved ones that have been stolen away.


Also, they wouldn’t have had to die alone if they died of other reasons.


Camberley, Surrey
Gandalf The White
05 April 2020 08:49:37


 


You have been blessed in your career. I have had the opposite experience - businesses struggle on despite dishonesty at all levels.


As for the NHS memo, apart from


"COVID-19 is generating unprecedented global demand on the supply chain, combined with a manufacturing slowdown in affected countries, especially China which manufactures a large amount of PPE. Government, NHS Supply Chain, and the NHS are doing everything to work with industry to secure additional supplies and manufacture further PPE."


it makes no admission whatsoever that there is a chance that front line workers will not get the equipment they need. No guidance on what to do if it doesn't get delivered.


My neighbour is a dentist and he told me a month ago he was finding it impossible to order masks.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Well, if the culture rewards dishonesty and lies then that's the behaviours you're encouraging. It's about leadership and installing the right culture: it shouldn't be difficult. It's a variant on the quality mantra that fixing a problem is far more expensive than getting it right in the first place.  The dishonesty will have consequences and costs and that means senior management is failing in its responsibilities.


As for the quoted part of the note; I would have thought it pretty obvious when there's reference to 'unprecedented global demand on the supply chain' and working 'to secure additional supplies' that all is not well. Do you really think it needs to be spelt out in big letters?  Nobody with an ounce of brains when reading that could possibly conclude that all is well, could they?


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


John p
05 April 2020 08:50:15


 


What do expect from these towel head Abu Dhabi criminals.


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Is racism allowed on here now folks?  Isn’t it about time he had another ‘holiday’?


Camberley, Surrey
Gandalf The White
05 April 2020 08:52:00


 


I am sick of to death of this argument, you utterly horrid troll.  People may have died in a few months time anyway, yes.  But it’s still a few precious months with loved ones that have been stolen away.


Also, they wouldn’t have had to die alone if they died of other reasons.


Originally Posted by: John p 


It feels like the same situation as with the immigration debate: at the macro level there's an argument about the scale but when it translates to some poor soul sitting alone, having lost his/her family then the emotions are entirely different (or should be).


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Ulric
05 April 2020 08:53:20


What do expect from these towel head Abu Dhabi criminals. We let them buy football clubs and launder money


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I expect they're big party donors though.


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Joe Bloggs
05 April 2020 08:53:35

I suspect what could happen (I could be spectacularly wrong)



  • the lockdown will continue until at least the end of April but I suspect longer 

  •  Daily death figures will continue to be awful for the next 2 weeks or so before slowly improving 

  • The Government will continue to plough resources into building mass hospitals, opening several across the UK, with inroads made in the availability of ventilators, and hopefully improvements to testing (with the arrival of the antibody test)

  • Once the latter bullet point is reached to a satisfactory level, and the UK is way past the peak of infections, the lockdown will be relaxed, and the UK will gradually make an attempt at returning to normal . This will take a long time. 

  • the very vulnerable will need to continue to self isolate for the foreseeable 

  • Foreign travel will be banned for most of the year 

  • Pubs will reopen in June 



Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

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