With reference to this earlier article

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52543692

Updated stats to 5th May show that only 31 people under the age of 40 with no known underlying symptoms have died so far, and only 166 under 40 year olds in total. I have wondered if there is anything which links healthy people under the age of 40 (or 45 or 50) dying from coronavirus, is it just like looking at a random selection of the population or are some occupations etc over-represented (i have a feeling that healthcare workers may be over-represented).

Given how long the epidemic has been going on i suspect that the number of healthy under 40s dying is less than would be expected to die from other causes, such as road accidents. This is not to say that i don't approve of the lockdown happening though.

Source for stats is COVID 19 total announced deaths 7 May 2020 on the page https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

That makes sense - the death curve should be following the hospital admissions curve downwards, but it is not synchronised. If there is such a time lag to some of the reporting that would explain it.

The key metric when it comes to relaxing the lockdown, should be the rate of new hospital admissions, certainly not the reported death rates on a daily basis (those fatalities would be people who were infected 3, 4 or even 5 weeks ago).

Yes it does as we have commented on a lot here! 92 out of 383 is about a quarter of today's headline figure. Not sure of the exact reason why this happens, i guess some deaths will be officially reported when late data comes through but big batches like this suggest that a trust that was very busy has maybe had time to go back and do some extra work? I suppose there is the argument that in the coming weeks todays figure may get bumped up a lot; personally i doubt that it will happen on the same scale as some hospitals (especially in London) are less busy now but that is just an estimate with no inside knowledge at all

Totally agree , it has to be lower 

Dominic Cummings?

Total all settings deaths in England by date of death (not by date reported) and age band.

I think wee Jimmy Krankie has upset the Downing St plans by not easing the Jockdown

Its all about how many deaths you think are acceptable. If you want to get it down to less than 200 a day, then a tougher lockdown maybe needed, but if 400 is ok, then we can loosen

Personally, I think Garden centres should open, and all elective surgery, dentistry, eye care and other healthcare services like Cognitive therapy should restart fully

But we should not be encouraging people to go out anytime they like

Chinese media hit back at US 'bullying'
From the BBC news ticker:
"China is mounting an aggressive media campaign to dismiss statements made by US politicians, particularly Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, about the coronavirus potentially having originated in a lab in the central Chinese city of Wuhan.
Hu Xijin, editor of the national newspaper Global Times, says that now more “earlier confirmed cases have been found in the US and Europe, it will be more and more difficult for the Trump administration to accuse China of originating the novel coronavirus”.
His comments came after Michael Melham, a mayor in New Jersey, said he believed he contracted the virus in November - before cases were discovered in Wuhan.
Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said yesterday that the Chinese people would "never again accept bullying on the epidemic issue.”
Referring to Mr Pompeo's comments, she said: "We don’t know what he was referring to. He says on the one hand he’s not certain it’s from a lab, on the other hand he has evidence it’s from a lab. If he was to do the right thing he could save hundreds of thousands of lives."
The official People’s Daily is sharing this slogan today on a poster of what looks like a silhouette of Mr Pompeo spitting. It says: “Why are those blundering American politicians still living in dreamland?”.

China holding onto reports the virus did not originate there. If it did start elsewhere, how on earth could another country have kept the lid on it. Infections there would have exploded just as they did in China. The bit "Chinese people would "never again accept bullying on the epidemic issue.” Well you had better get used to it China as this is not going to go away. My word they are up themselves aren't they and need bringing down a peg or three.

Its been apparent for sometime that this is a virus that kills the old by using the young to spread it. 

Wow! That's a brilliant set of data and graph we have been used to seeing Darren. They need to show the overall trend at least in the update later.

Disagree - it depends on who is testing positive.

The key metric should be the rate of hospital admissions, since that is what affects the whole healthcare system.

Exclusive: The secret report into Exercise Cygnus – which revealed the government was not prepared for a pandemic – has been leaked to the Guardian. We've decided to publish it in full.https://t.co/wN1E5uyX6z

— Paul Lewis (@PaulLewis) May 7, 2020

What about care home deaths? Or are they expendable?

I think in the interests of keeping the lockdown in place, it's probably not in the interests of the Government to show the true picture. Instead the masses get to see:

• Deaths by date recorded: Which increasingly includes backdated deaths for the peak period when deaths were too numerous to process quickly. This makes the decrease in deaths look much slower than it really is.
  
  


• New cases with recent vastly increased testing: If we were picking up 1 in 20 cases a month ago, and 1 in 10 cases now, a halving in the actual incidence of cases would result in the chart being flat, and that's exactly what we are seeing!

It's a scandal that should bring any government down, but Rasputin and King Boris are impervious. That Twitter link Gavin-bot posted earlier that you labelled a clown was stuffed full of nutters claiming criticism of the government is a plot to stop Brexit.

But by keeping control of new cases, wouldn't that translate into less hospital admissions?

How do you make it a bit bigger?

Yep but interesting to look at some figures to show low the actual risk to under 40 is, at least of dying, some people have survived but been very ill and will take a long time to get over it (no figures provided for that)

Rubbing it furiously normally works

It's enormous once that happens.

Swiss study now out on IFR and antibodies.

FR for under 50 years old: 0.006%. again, like Denmark, practically no risk

Over 50: 3.57%

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.02.20088898v1

It's still by no means certain but I think there's increasing evidence that we 'could' have got this badly wrong - firstly we have failed to protect those who are by far at the most risk, and secondly we have put in place a form of lockdown that will have far reaching consequences across society, much worse than those caused by the virus itself.