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speckledjim
19 May 2020 16:19:42


 


'Okay direction for new cases, but after Gavin posted figures earlier for the four countries, I wasn't expecting such a high all settings figure. 


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Yes, number of new cases is dropping nicely, however, wasn’t expecting to see such a big number re deaths. 


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
JHutch
19 May 2020 16:20:06


 


Looking at the graphs, there's no sign of an upturn, and yesterday's number seemed unusually low based on recent changes. Therefore I deduce that yesterday's reported total was wrong.


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


Yeah i mentioned yesterday that the figure for yesterday didnt include Northern Ireland whereas the figure for the previous did so gave a misleadingly large drop.


I make today's figure 10,025 and yesterday's 10,087.

Gavin D
19 May 2020 16:20:15

Daily slides


Social distancing 



Testing and new cases



Hospital data



People in hospital



All settings deaths with rolling 7-day average


Heavy Weather 2013
19 May 2020 16:20:33


 


This is not a good direction of travel


 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Of course HMG spun it and instead said it was a drop of 11% since last week


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
xioni2
19 May 2020 16:28:04


Even your friends, your masters in the EU weren't too great either.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


You can keep your bullsh1t to yourself and try and make a reasonable point instead.

Gavin D
19 May 2020 16:36:38
Nicola Sturgeon is expected to announce Scotland's phased lifting of the lockdown at a special sitting of parliament on Thursday.
xioni2
19 May 2020 16:42:30


Surely all the Brexiters and other fanatics should be apoplectic over the choice of metric measurements for social distancing. Why are we told to stay 2 metres away from everybody else? Surely the advice should be to keep a distance of 78.74 inches?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


10 dicks away? That'd be very hard in Westminster. 

Phil G
19 May 2020 16:50:22


 


10 dicks away? That'd be very hard in Westminster. 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Ahem! 
"You can keep your bullsh1t to yourself and try and make a reasonable point instead". Don't practice......

xioni2
19 May 2020 16:52:17


Ahem! 
"You can keep your bullsh1t to yourself and try and make a reasonable point instead". Don't practice......


Originally Posted by: Phil G 



Bad company corrupts my sense of humour.

Essan
19 May 2020 17:10:03

Self employed income support payment arrived today

A few hours later I got an email saying it'd be in my account with 3 days ......  


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
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The Beast from the East
19 May 2020 17:19:56


Self employed income support payment arrived today

A few hours later I got an email saying it'd be in my account with 3 days ......  


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Perhaps they will send you two payments!


And George Useless wants you to pick veg while you enjoy your money


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
19 May 2020 17:21:49


 


This is not a good direction of travel


 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Actually hospital admissions went down a bit, but their attempts at manipulation yesterday backfired today. Some intern is going to get a bollocking from Cummings


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
19 May 2020 18:01:35


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Heavy Weather 2013
19 May 2020 18:12:50




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Apparently the press were all over the ministers and scientists today and they were floundering.


Where is Boris. To not appear on over a week I think is disgraceful. It appears that it Cummings is actually running the country. 

Boris is bored of being PM already.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
JHutch
19 May 2020 18:23:57

If VE Day parties had caused an uptick in the number of cases, or a levelling off, then we might expect to see that about now?

ozone_aurora
19 May 2020 18:26:09

See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52715571.


 

llamedos
19 May 2020 18:28:59


If VE Day parties had caused an uptick in the number of cases, or a levelling off, then we might expect to see that about now?


Originally Posted by: JHutch 

11 days ago wasn't it?...maybe a little too soon - who knows. 


"Life with the Lions"

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Chichesterweatherfan2
19 May 2020 18:46:50
Just reflecting on the total and utter polar opposite in the way that Gordon Brown and Boris Johnson manage/ managed crisis....and I’m not saying which one is right....GB as we know was a control freak...BJ seems to be happy to delegate and keep his head down and let others take the flack ....having said I wasn’t going to say which one was right...there are clearly downsides to both approaches....none the less I think I would expect our PM to have a bit more of a higher profile...one thing is clear tho...Churchillian he most certainly ain’t!
fairweather
19 May 2020 19:04:50

I am amazed that people are surprised that the Government are blaming the Scientists. I remember posting a long time back that I'd noticed " we're taking the advice of our Scientists" was being used at every opportunity by every different spokesperson with unhealthy repetition. This is the usual Cummings based tactic as with "Get Brexit Done" to hammer a message into the psyche of the plebs. I realised then that it was just the pre-planning for laying the blame at their door if it all went wrong and it looks like it has proved to be the case.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Gavin D
19 May 2020 19:06:24

Regional data for new cases today in England


The 7 English regions 



  • London +42 (0.2%) 26,529

  • Midlands +181 (0.7%) 24,431

  • North West +151 (0.6%) 23,937

  • North East and Yorkshire +175 (0.8%) 23,001

  • South East +86 (0.4%) 20,414

  • East of England +44 (0.3%) 13,173

  • South West +25 (0.3%) 7,340


The 10 local areas with the highest cases



  1. Kent +32 (0.7%) 4,507

  2. Lancashire +27 (0.8%) 3,378

  3. Birmingham +16 (0.5%) 3,319

  4. Hampshire +15 (0.5%) 3,183

  5. Essex +7 (0.2%) 3,091

  6. Surrey +13 (0.5%) 2,832

  7. Hertfordshire +7 (0.3%) 2,768

  8. Sheffield +9 (0.4%) 2,486

  9. Cumbria +3 (0.1%) 2,148

  10. Staffordshire +15 (0.7%) 2,105


The 10 local areas with the lowest cases



  1. Rutland 32 - No change

  2. North East Lincolnshire 148 - No change

  3. Isle of Wight 178 - No change

  4. Torbay 221 - No change

  5. Bath and North East Somerset +2 (0.9%) 230

  6. Bracknell Forest +1 (0.4%) 237

  7. Windsor and Maidenhead -1 ( 279) One case removed 

  8. Calderdale +2 (0.7%) 285

  9. Hartlepool +9 (3.0%) 304

  10. Portsmouth 312 - No change

Justin W
19 May 2020 19:13:37

Just reflecting on the total and utter polar opposite in the way that Gordon Brown and Boris Johnson manage/ managed crisis....and I’m not saying which one is right....GB as we know was a control freak...BJ seems to be happy to delegate and keep his head down and let others take the flack ....having said I wasn’t going to say which one was right...there are clearly downsides to both approaches....none the less I think I would expect our PM to have a bit more of a higher profile...one thing is clear tho...Churchillian he most certainly ain’t!

Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 


Gordon Brown may have been a control freak as PM but he was competent, measured and good with detail. Our current 'Prime Minister' is none of those things. He is insouciant, reckless, devoid of morals, devoid of empathy, easily bored and unable to concentrate for more than 60 seconds unless he is looking at somebody else's wife. It is why we have getting on for 60,000 dead


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
SJV
19 May 2020 19:32:03


If VE Day parties had caused an uptick in the number of cases, or a levelling off, then we might expect to see that about now?


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


I'm thinking the same, I'll be looking at the new case number closely over the coming days. Like John says it might be too soon now but later this week and early next week after the weekend lag will be the days to watch, in my opinion.


edit: just seen ozone's link 

pfw
  • pfw
  • Advanced Member
19 May 2020 19:40:00

Ontario schools to remain shut until after summer here


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-coronavirus-ontario-may-19-school-year-update-1.5574966


I broadly support this. Not a lot of point re-opening for a few weeks in a set up where the kids would probably have just been learning how to wash their hands and stay away from their friends .


I would have considered moving the summer break forward a few weeks and then getting the teaching staff in early in summer to prepare before September but this may have not been practical. Hopefully when they restart in September it can at least be a little closer to "normal".


 


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Paul.
Quantum
19 May 2020 20:07:43


 


The failure of PHE


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 3 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6), 23/11 (-2)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Brian Gaze
19 May 2020 20:14:50

Not sure what to make of this other than good news if true.


Coronavirus deaths in Britain could stop by end of June, scientists say
Number of deaths on Monday was 545, down from 627 a week ago, and seven-day average is now 378


Deaths from coronavirus in Britain could stop by the end of June if current trends continue, scientists have said.


The number of deaths on Monday was 545, down from 627 a week ago, and the seven-day average is now 378. Data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed that, on average, deaths are now falling at a rate of around 30 each day.


Carl Heneghan, professor of evidence-based medicine at the University of Oxford, said that there would be a sporadic rise and fall in deaths over the next four to six weeks but he would not expect to find coronavirus listed in the ONS death data by the end of June.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/19/coronavirus-deaths-britain-could-stop-end-june-scientists-say/


 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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