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Gandalf The White
20 May 2020 22:26:46


 


As I pointed out the vast majority of the public won't bother seeking that information out though. They need it screamed at them through bold newspaper headlines these days. 


I agree it isn't hard to see the cracks behind the apparent 'success' in the data. To me that makes it all the more insulting, the fact that this government seemingly take us for fools. Then again as is often pointed out we have a leader with similar parallels to Trump in that he is blindly followed by his cult no matter what he does.


The above then goes back to my first sentence - for these cultists even a damning headline of statistical lies and obfuscation would be glossed over and dismissed as a mindless attack on their precious government.


Originally Posted by: SJV 


I’m rather fond of the saying “the people get the leaders they deserve.” 


If people are so disinterested and/or stupid that they can’t be bothered to apply a modicum of critical thinking then isn’t it obvious where most of the blame sits.


I recall a dissident escaping the old USSR commenting with a mixture of surprise and disappointment that the people in the UK were no different to the people back home. He had assumed that our open democratic system was because we actively fought for it and that was why we didn’t have a totalitarian one/party system.


Apparently it’s just luck and now here and elsewhere the wheel has spun and landed on a less desirable outcome.  Temporary insanity or permanent madness?


As Joni Mitchell sang in a more idealistic time, “You don’t know what you’ve got ‘til it’s gone.”


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The Beast from the East
20 May 2020 23:26:42


 


I’m rather fond of the saying “the people get the leaders they deserve.” 


If people are so disinterested and/or stupid that they can’t be bothered to apply a modicum of critical thinking then isn’t it obvious where most of the blame sits.


I recall a dissident escaping the old USSR commenting with a mixture of surprise and disappointment that the people in the UK were no different to the people back home. He had assumed that our open democratic system was because we actively fought for it and that was why we didn’t have a totalitarian one/party system.


Apparently it’s just luck and now here and elsewhere the wheel has spun and landed on a less desirable outcome.  Temporary insanity or permanent madness?


As Joni Mitchell sang in a more idealistic time, “You don’t know what you’ve got ‘til it’s gone.”


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Amazing symmetry on both sides of the Atlantic


Trump is now attacking the CDC and other scientists for giving him wrong advice, so its their fault! Also, some GOP states like Georgia are manipulating the data and trying to reduce the death toll, and limiting access to testing to try and get the numbers down. 


In countries with corrupt governments like the US, UK, Brazil and Russia, excess deaths may be the only accurate measure of the impact of Covid.


You cant hide bodies


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Tom Oxon
20 May 2020 23:27:03




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


This guy is a film maker if you go through to his feed (which is not declared/obvious from the video).  Any chance he might be trying to go viral?


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The Beast from the East
20 May 2020 23:29:35


 


 


This guy is a film maker if you go through to his feed (which is not declared/obvious from the video).  Any chance he might be trying to go viral?


Originally Posted by: Tom Oxon 


I hope you never end up in hospital and rely on foreign doctors and nurses to care for you


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Tom Oxon
20 May 2020 23:34:13


 


I hope you never end up in hospital and rely on foreign doctors and nurses to care for you


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Bullsjit


I'm sorry but I'm telling it like it is. Hes a filmmaker, joined the NHS a few weeks ago to get a good story and is already trying to get himself seen.  Not rounding on him for using the NHS for his own benefit are you, just blinded by the fact he's  foreign and preaching the leftist narrative?


S Warwickshire countryside, c.375ft asl.
The Beast from the East
20 May 2020 23:35:02

I hope Maunder, hickster, Caz, four, westv, bleur etc watched Newsnight tonight. Incredible journalism from Lewis


 




"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President

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