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Ally Pally Snowman
03 August 2022 20:41:31


 


a couple of GFS fails this week. Both days were predicted above 30C.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Yes unusual for GFS as it's been very good this summer.


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Rob K
04 August 2022 09:17:21


29.1c today's high in Suffolk following 29.5c yesterday in Monks Wood Cambridgeshire.  Think we're upto 7 or 8 29s now this year.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


As of yesterday for the meteorological summer months we are up to 15 days of 29C+, of which 9 have reached 30C.


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TimS
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05 August 2022 12:10:48


 


As of yesterday for the meteorological summer months we are up to 15 days of 29C+, of which 9 have reached 30C.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


So if recent ensemble means are to be believed we should end up with something between 14 and 18 30C days, barring another last minute heatwave in late August or September. 


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Rob K
05 August 2022 12:18:12


 


So if recent ensemble means are to be believed we should end up with something between 14 and 18 30C days, barring another last minute heatwave in late August or September. 


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Does anyone know if there's a site recording numbers of 30C+ days each summer (or each year) anywhere?


 


I found a chart on this blog page: https://wansteadmeteo.com/2022/05/10/30-degree-season/


but that only refers to London (it shows 13 days for 1976 and I'm sure there were more than that UK-wide - I think 15 days beat 32C somewhere didn't they?). The highest total on there is 14 for 2018.


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LeedsLad123
05 August 2022 19:42:39


 


Don’t you remember 1995 though? Driest summer on record. Empty reservoirs across the North of England. Or 2003: sunniest summer on record. Followed in the sunshine stakes by 2018 (when I remember well the North including the Lakes went Savanna yellow). Or 1989, until 2018 the warmest and sunniest May-September extended summer on record. Yet whenever anyone compares summer weather with the past it’s always 1976. 


I suspect it’s about formative years. I remember 1995 like it was yesterday because I was 18 then. So 1995 (along with 1989) is the Gen X formative summer. 1976 is the boomer formative summer. The weather in one’s late teens seems to burn itself in the memory. 


Originally Posted by: TimS 


I was 19 in 2006 so I’d say this is spot on. Many great memories that summer. Also, my mum born in 1965 is a very early Gen Xer so her ‘formative summer’ will probably be 1983, although she does remember 1976 very well too (just like I remember 1995). Generations are pretty big!


Both this summer and 2018 went yellow here - but recent rainfall has turned the grass green again. However the GFS is showing no rainfall at all here up to the 15th, so the grass could turn yellow again. 


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06 August 2022 05:40:32


 


Does anyone know if there's a site recording numbers of 30C+ days each summer (or each year) anywhere?


 


I found a chart on this blog page: https://wansteadmeteo.com/2022/05/10/30-degree-season/


but that only refers to London (it shows 13 days for 1976 and I'm sure there were more than that UK-wide - I think 15 days beat 32C somewhere didn't they?). The highest total on there is 14 for 2018.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I’m not sure there is anywhere that lists number of 30C days for the country as a whole - only ones I’ve seen are per station eg Heathrow. 


The coming heatwave now looks firmed up. Possibly the last of the summer, but at least akin to the July 2021 spell and possibly the extremely hot week of August 2020. This morning’s GFS op:


25,28,29,31,33,34,36,36,33,32,33,31,30,27,27,23


10 days above 30. 4 more above 80F. Only one day below the old red BBC temperature badge level and that’s at the end of the run. I remember when the red circle was a sign of exciting summer weather.


 


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roadrunnerajn
06 August 2022 09:45:43

The Met office for down here have given several days above 26c which is unusual. However after saying that a light ENE breeze is a warm direction for us having travelled over most of the country first .


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Gavin D
06 August 2022 12:34:15

Gavin D
06 August 2022 12:48:20
The Met Office have issued a level 2 heatwave alert for East and West Midlands, South West England, South East England, London and East of England from 12:00 Tuesday to 09:00 on Friday
Osprey
06 August 2022 17:39:00

The Met Office have issued a level 2 heatwave alert for East and West Midlands, South West England, South East England, London and East of England from 12:00 Tuesday to 09:00 on Friday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Anything for SE Wales?


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Gavin D
07 August 2022 13:28:18

Gavin D
07 August 2022 13:31:20


 


Anything for SE Wales?


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


 


The heatwave alert system is only used in England.


 


 

Gavin D
07 August 2022 13:42:25
The RAF have closed RAF Brize Norton again due to the impending heatwave. 2 voyagers have gone up to Glasgow Prestwick.

The UKs biggest military base will be closed until at least Wednesday night
Bolty
07 August 2022 13:49:11

If things play out the way they are forecasted to, I expect this summer will turn out to be a very historic one. I usually find that you can add a degree or two to the forecasted temperatures, so if 36°C is predicted, we can assume that 38°C is a reasonable possibility. Let's let that play out:

1) A heat wave that brings the first ever 40°C in July, and virtually the entire country smashing their local records to boot.
2) A 38°C heat wave in August, that either sets or comes very close to a new August record.
3) Two 18°C+ CET months - a feat that only 1911 and 1995 have achieved.
4) Probably the worst drought since 1976 in the southern half of the country.

And whilst it's technically autumn, I wouldn't be surprised if September does something remarkable too, given the state of the land and atmosphere this summer...


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Osprey
08 August 2022 10:56:29


If things play out the way they are forecasted to, I expect this summer will turn out to be a very historic one. I usually find that you can add a degree or two to the forecasted temperatures, so if 36°C is predicted, we can assume that 38°C is a reasonable possibility. Let's let that play out:

1) A heat wave that brings the first ever 40°C in July, and virtually the entire country smashing their local records to boot.
2) A 38°C heat wave in August, that either sets or comes very close to a new August record.
3) Two 18°C+ CET months - a feat that only 1911 and 1995 have achieved.
4) Probably the worst drought since 1976 in the southern half of the country.

And whilst it's technically autumn, I wouldn't be surprised if September does something remarkable too, given the state of the land and atmosphere this summer...


Originally Posted by: Bolty 


Usually August is poor weatherwise (to my memory), but the last few Augusts have been warm, sunny, and mostly dry (Correct me if I'm wrong), as it was built in my mind that after wet and miserable August, the kids went back to school, first week September, and we had a sunny dry warm September...


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Gavin D
08 August 2022 11:19:20

The Met Office have issued a level 3 heatwave alert for East and West Midlands, South West England, South East England, London and East of England from 12:00  Tuesday to 18:00 on Saturday


 


The met office have also issued a level 2 heatwave alert for the rest of England

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08 August 2022 11:30:24
For this upcoming roughly 1-week heatwave I think the events to compare are:

August 2003 (10 days >30C, max 38C)
August 2020 (6 consecutive days >34C, 5 tropical nights)
August 1995 (I think 5 consecutive days >30C peaking at 35C - with more hot weather later in the month)

So far we look a little cooler and shorter than 2003, and a little cooler but perhaps a bit longer than 2020. We should beat 1995 but of course that was a prelude to an entire month of heat and drought.

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Col
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08 August 2022 14:40:28


If things play out the way they are forecasted to, I expect this summer will turn out to be a very historic one. I usually find that you can add a degree or two to the forecasted temperatures, so if 36°C is predicted, we can assume that 38°C is a reasonable possibility. Let's let that play out:

1) A heat wave that brings the first ever 40°C in July, and virtually the entire country smashing their local records to boot.
2) A 38°C heat wave in August, that either sets or comes very close to a new August record.
3) Two 18°C+ CET months - a feat that only 1911 and 1995 have achieved.
4) Probably the worst drought since 1976 in the southern half of the country.

And whilst it's technically autumn, I wouldn't be surprised if September does something remarkable too, given the state of the land and atmosphere this summer...


Originally Posted by: Bolty 


And we round the whole thing off with a late September/early October heatwave 2011 style. We get the first 30C recorded in October, the current record  is 29.9C on the 1st which is ripe for the taking! I see Coningsby holds the joint date record for the 2nd & 3rd :)


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Bolty
08 August 2022 14:56:16


 


And we round the whole thing off with a late September/early October heatwave 2011 style. We get the first 30C recorded in October, the current record  is 29.9C on the 1st which is ripe for the taking! I see Coningsby holds the joint date record for the 2nd & 3rd :)


Originally Posted by: Col 


I wouldn't say "no" to that. October is just asking for a 30°C record!


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Caz
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08 August 2022 17:12:09

We’ve begun our ‘official heatwave’ today with the temp topping 28c, our threshold here is 27c.  What was today’s highest temp?


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Nick Gilly
08 August 2022 18:41:21


We’ve begun our ‘official heatwave’ today with the temp topping 28c, our threshold here is 27c.  What was today’s highest temp?


Originally Posted by: Caz 


From what I can see Charlwood was 30C (rounded?) and Heathrow 29.7C.

TimS
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08 August 2022 19:10:00

Will be very annoying if Charlwood didn’t manage a proper 30C today after getting nearly there in early afternoon.


EDIT: I see they managed 30.0C exactly, so we’re up and running.


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08 August 2022 19:19:56


 


From what I can see Charlwood was 30C (rounded?) and Heathrow 29.7C.


Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 

  Thank you!  Unfortunately Doncaster didn’t report between 14:50 and 16:20. at peak heat time. 


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LeedsLad123
08 August 2022 19:28:33

I’m not expecting noteworthy temperatures here during the upcoming spell - this high pressure set up with an easterly flow coming from the N Sea usually moderates temperatures somewhat here. We do much better with a S or SE flow - much longer land track. It was the same during July 2018 when it was consistently 27-29C but never any higher. I also expect the nights to be relatively cool - wouldn’t be surprised to have a few days with diurnal ranges approaching 20C.


I’d actually expect Blackpool and the like to record some of the hotter temperatures under this setup.


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