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Gary L
17 May 2011 14:33:07



SAF didn't even bother responding to the FA over their latest charge. Probably the best approach to take from now on. 


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8517663/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-snubs-FA-over-charge-for-making-complimentary-comments-about-referee-Howard-Webb.html


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Thankfully, we've only got another season or so of Bacon face. Then he can go into quiet retirement along with his Alzheimer's.


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


It will be sad day for Manchester United when he steps down. Doubt there has been or will be a better manager. Why so much hatred towards him? 

future_is_orange
17 May 2011 16:27:16



SAF didn't even bother responding to the FA over their latest charge. Probably the best approach to take from now on. 


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8517663/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-snubs-FA-over-charge-for-making-complimentary-comments-about-referee-Howard-Webb.html


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Thankfully, we've only got another season or so of Bacon face. Then he can go into quiet retirement along with his Alzheimer's.


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


I am sure SAF will still be about... whilst your sitting in your old folks home in soiled nappies !


 

David M Porter
17 May 2011 17:30:26



SAF didn't even bother responding to the FA over their latest charge. Probably the best approach to take from now on. 


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8517663/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-snubs-FA-over-charge-for-making-complimentary-comments-about-referee-Howard-Webb.html


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Thankfully, we've only got another season or so of Bacon face. Then he can go into quiet retirement along with his Alzheimer's.


Originally Posted by: Gary L 

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Very funny.


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The Beast from the East
17 May 2011 20:14:04
man city up to 3rd. But their away form is so bad they could lose to bolton
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SEMerc
17 May 2011 22:50:41

Hopefully not, because they'll then finish above the Scum who would then have to go through the qualification stage of the CL. It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that they could screw that up.


Unless they do something major in the summer Arsenal to me looks to be a team in decline.

Saint Snow
17 May 2011 22:59:32

Why so much hatred towards him? 


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


Because he exudes so much anger to everyone else?


Up until he joined Man U, he had no link to them and no reason not to like Liverpool, yet his 'knock Liverpool off their f***ing perch' comment set out his stall. And that's when I set out mine.


That the claret-nosed git then went to do what he said he wanted to do just makes me hate him even more.



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wallaw
18 May 2011 06:22:33


Why so much hatred towards him? 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Because he exudes so much anger to everyone else?


Up until he joined Man U, he had no link to them and no reason not to like Liverpool, yet his 'knock Liverpool off their f***ing perch' comment set out his stall. And that's when I set out mine.


That the claret-nosed git then went to do what he said he wanted to do just makes me hate him even more.


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


As honest as ever Martin, I don't mind the guy but I wouldn't say I was a fan of his. However, I have really liked some of the teams he has put together and the approach they take.


and of course I would always want a real (northern) team to win over one of those silly, flash in the pan southern teams


Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

David M Porter
18 May 2011 14:00:17


Why so much hatred towards him? 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Because he exudes so much anger to everyone else?


Up until he joined Man U, he had no link to them and no reason not to like Liverpool, yet his 'knock Liverpool off their f***ing perch' comment set out his stall. And that's when I set out mine.


That the claret-nosed git then went to do what he said he wanted to do just makes me hate him even more.


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


Perhaps Liverpool's dominance of English football would have continued for a bit longer (and could well have won a few more league titles) had Kenny Dalglish not unexpectedly resigned as manager at Anfield in early 1991. It was after this that Graeme Souness returned to Liverpool (he resigned as manager of Glasgow Rangers in April '91 to go back to Anfield, much to my annoyance!), as as every Reds fan will recall, his tenure wasn't exactly the most successful.


Perhaps in Leeds hadn't sold a certain Monsieur Cantona to Man Utd late on in 1992, they could well have gone on to dominate football in England for a good few years; they certainly looked well capable of it after winning the league in 1991-92. Cantona was as big a factor in Leeds' success that season as he was in all Man Utd's title winning sides during the following five years or so.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
future_is_orange
18 May 2011 14:48:53



Why so much hatred towards him? 


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Because he exudes so much anger to everyone else?


Up until he joined Man U, he had no link to them and no reason not to like Liverpool, yet his 'knock Liverpool off their f***ing perch' comment set out his stall. And that's when I set out mine.


That the claret-nosed git then went to do what he said he wanted to do just makes me hate him even more.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Perhaps Liverpool's dominance of English football would have continued for a bit longer (and could well have won a few more league titles) had Kenny Dalglish not unexpectedly resigned as manager at Anfield in early 1991. It was after this that Graeme Souness returned to Liverpool (he resigned as manager of Glasgow Rangers in April '91 to go back to Anfield, much to my annoyance!), as as every Reds fan will recall, his tenure wasn't exactly the most successful.


Perhaps in Leeds hadn't sold a certain Monsieur Cantona to Man Utd late on in 1992, they could well have gone on to dominate football in England for a good few years; they certainly looked well capable of it after winning the league in 1991-92. Cantona was as big a factor in Leeds' success that season as he was in all Man Utd's title winning sides during the following five years or so.


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


David what you may not know is that Fergie was actually after Lee Chapman of Leeds... he wasnt available. Fergie was offered Eric as an alternative !!

SEMerc
18 May 2011 14:58:57




Why so much hatred towards him? 


Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


Because he exudes so much anger to everyone else?


Up until he joined Man U, he had no link to them and no reason not to like Liverpool, yet his 'knock Liverpool off their f***ing perch' comment set out his stall. And that's when I set out mine.


That the claret-nosed git then went to do what he said he wanted to do just makes me hate him even more.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Perhaps Liverpool's dominance of English football would have continued for a bit longer (and could well have won a few more league titles) had Kenny Dalglish not unexpectedly resigned as manager at Anfield in early 1991. It was after this that Graeme Souness returned to Liverpool (he resigned as manager of Glasgow Rangers in April '91 to go back to Anfield, much to my annoyance!), as as every Reds fan will recall, his tenure wasn't exactly the most successful.


Perhaps in Leeds hadn't sold a certain Monsieur Cantona to Man Utd late on in 1992, they could well have gone on to dominate football in England for a good few years; they certainly looked well capable of it after winning the league in 1991-92. Cantona was as big a factor in Leeds' success that season as he was in all Man Utd's title winning sides during the following five years or so.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


David what you may not know is that Fergie was actually after Lee Chapman of Leeds... he wasnt available. Fergie was offered Eric as an alternative !!


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


Wasn't Cantona moved on because he was sha#ging Chapman's then missus?

Saint Snow
18 May 2011 14:59:11

Perhaps Liverpool's dominance of English football would have continued for a bit longer (and could well have won a few more league titles) had Kenny Dalglish not unexpectedly resigned as manager at Anfield in early 1991. It was after this that Graeme Souness returned to Liverpool (he resigned as manager of Glasgow Rangers in April '91 to go back to Anfield, much to my annoyance!), as as every Reds fan will recall, his tenure wasn't exactly the most successful.

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Maybe.


But let's remember that Dalglish inherited a hugely experienced Liverpool side who were used to winning. When those experienced players started to retire, Dalglish had a massive rebuilding job on his hands and, IMO, largely failed. The players he brought in were too often below the standard needed to continue Liverpool's dominance, especially toward the end of his reign. Players like David Speedie, Ronny Rosenthal, Jimmy Carter, Steve Harkness, Don Hutchinson just weren't of anywhere near equal calibre to Hanson, Dalglish himself, Craig Johnston, Lawro, etc.


Of course, like you say, when Souness came in, he made an utter horlicks of the job. Dean Saunders, Neil Ruddock, Paul Stewart, Nigel Clough, Michael Thomas, Mark Walters, Julian Dicks, Stig Bjornebye, Torben Piechnik - all big money signings back then and not a one wore the Liverpool shirt with any distinction.


Perhaps in Leeds hadn't sold a certain Monsieur Cantona to Man Utd late on in 1992, they could well have gone on to dominate football in England for a good few years; they certainly looked well capable of it after winning the league in 1991-92. Cantona was as big a factor in Leeds' success that season as he was in all Man Utd's title winning sides during the following five years or so.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


The story goes that, during his time at Leeds, Cantona was porking Lesley Ash, wife of Leeds striker Lee Chapman - hence why Cantona was drummed out of Elland Rd. Dunno if it's true, but it's a great rumour!


As a way of linking the two above snippets, Cantona was apparently offered to LIverpool before he joined Leeds, but Souness declined. Says it all.



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Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
18 May 2011 15:01:31

Wasn't Cantona moved on because he was sha#ging Chapman's then missus?


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Smutty minds think alike!


 



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SEMerc
18 May 2011 15:06:20

Could 'Fish Lips' be responsible for changing EPL history forever?


Edicius81
18 May 2011 17:55:19


Hopefully not, because they'll then finish above the Scum who would then have to go through the qualification stage of the CL. It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that they could screw that up.


Unless they do something major in the summer Arsenal to me looks to be a team in decline.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Don't we say that every year?


I'm sure that next year won't be much different to the two or three that have gone before: Written off by the pundits as a team without a chance. Go well in all competitions until February when someone breaks a leg or they get beat by some two bit side (bet gooners have their fingers firmly crossed that Birmingham get sent down) when they collapse.  

llamedos
20 May 2011 21:09:06

I see the United bashers have run out of gas at last ............it really was getting very tiresome


A very important Sunday ahead for 5 clubs, 2 of which will be joining West Ham in the Championship. Your tips for the drop??  


"Life with the Lions"

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Matty H
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21 May 2011 18:06:37
As if it's not embarrassing enough watching Man City's fans doing that stupid Poznan shite, Celtic fans are doing it too. Makes you want to curl up in a ball and be sick whilst wishing the ground would open up. Plastic sheep the lot of them 👎
David M Porter
21 May 2011 18:13:06

As if it's not embarrassing enough watching Man City's fans doing that stupid Poznan shite, Celtic fans are doing it too. Makes you want to curl up in a ball and be sick whilst wishing the ground would open up. Plastic sheep the lot of them 👎

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


So we've got Man City to thank for it then. Here was me thinking that the Celtic fans today were merely copying what their players have been doing before games for years!


Lenzie, Glasgow

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21 May 2011 18:42:36
😂 😂
Super Cell
22 May 2011 08:41:13


Perhaps in Leeds hadn't sold a certain Monsieur Cantona to Man Utd late on in 1992, they could well have gone on to dominate football in England for a good few years; they certainly looked well capable of it after winning the league in 1991-92. Cantona was as big a factor in Leeds' success that season as he was in all Man Utd's title winning sides during the following five years or so.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Actually Cantona contributed very little to the title winning season. He topped the odd game off with a flourish, but that squad was a bunch of hard working players with a splash of insipration - Strachan, Speed, McAllister, Batty, our midfield from heaven.


Wilkinson had a work ethic that in all honestly was never likely to gel with Cantona's 'free spirit'. The relationship would only ever be a short one. I think Ferguson took a punt and it worked brilliantly. It could equally have fallen flat on its face. Fine margins and all that.


We were cursed because we won the last 'proper' league championship which bought next to no money in. The next season our board didn't adapt, but Ferguson had been slowly building a team and a club, and they came to fruition at the time the money came into the game. If we'd had the SKY money who knows, but hey, we DID win the league in a manner that can't now be done.


At the celebrations on the Headrow in Leeds I said to my wife - drink this in, it may never happen again. It hasn't and is unlikely to in the foreseeable future. I also pointed out that many supporters of other 'big' clubs had NEVER experienced this. Newcastle, for example. They still haven't.


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Super Cell
22 May 2011 08:53:15


Wasn't Cantona moved on because he was sha#ging Chapman's then missus?


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Smutty minds think alike!


 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


It was a nice urban myth, but wasn't true. Quite simply he didn't like Wilkinon's disciplinarian approach, and our board, for reasons best known to them, sold him at a giveaway price.


Remember that before Leeds took a punt on him he was a maverick who wouldn't go on trial with Sheffield Wednesday because he felt he was above all that. He was potentially destablising, and it's to Ferguson's great credit that he managed to get the best out of him.


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40m asl
SEMerc
22 May 2011 09:45:51

Monday should prove interesting if Mittal's rumoured bid for the remaining stakes in QPR pans out.


Bernie is certainly downplaying it, but if Mittal does carry through it certainly improves immeasurably the chances of QPR staying up.


ttp://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/6944736/Warnock-stays-says-Bernie

SEMerc
22 May 2011 14:43:32

What a strange season.  If Blackpool win at OT they will have achieved more away wins than United this season.

Matty H
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22 May 2011 16:40:36
This is funny 😂 Blackpool fans celebrating survival ten mins ago, 2-1 up at Man Utd, chanting songs about PNE. ten mins later 3-2 down and could be relegated by an own goal. In terms of enjoying the demise of other teams, this season can't be beat 😁 What would cap it off would be for Blackpool to lose and see Ian Hollowhead cry 😂
Matty H
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22 May 2011 16:42:12
4-2 Blackpool relegated 😁
SEMerc
22 May 2011 17:24:50

More's the point - Arsenal - the only team ever to finish fourth in a two-horse.

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