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tallyho_83
17 December 2013 01:54:09



Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


But where is the Arctic blast with snow and bitterly cold weather the Daily Express kept waffling on about!???


 


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DEW
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17 December 2013 13:46:29



 



Should be some white stuff to mention as long as your forecast includes the northern half of the country...


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


True Rob, but Steve's forecast is for Kent and I've yet to see a definition of 'north of the country' that includes Kent.


Unless you are extraordinarily parochial and live in Dover, perhaps......


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


True - as any Kentish Man or Man of Kent will tell you, the North begins at Watford


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Gandalf The White
17 December 2013 15:06:46




 



Should be some white stuff to mention as long as your forecast includes the northern half of the country...


Originally Posted by: DEW 


True Rob, but Steve's forecast is for Kent and I've yet to see a definition of 'north of the country' that includes Kent.


Unless you are extraordinarily parochial and live in Dover, perhaps......


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


True - as any Kentish Man or Man of Kent will tell you, the North begins at Watford


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


So, I'm in the North then....


It doesn't seem to improve my chances of seeing snow.



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Gooner
17 December 2013 15:56:54

UK Outlook for Sunday 22 Dec 2013 to Tuesday 31 Dec 2013:


It is likely to remain very unsettled through the Christmas period, with frequent spells of strong winds and rainfall. This will be interspersed with some brighter, showery weather at times. Severe gale force winds are possible, most likely in the north and west, although nowhere looks to be immune. Rain is also likely to be heavy at times, especially in the west, which will lead to a risk of some flooding. Temperatures are most likely to be near or above normal for December at first, but then trending a little colder, more especially later, when there looks to be an increasing risk of some snow in the north and on hills, whilst night frosts may become more common.


UK Outlook for Wednesday 1 Jan 2014 to Wednesday 15 Jan 2014:


Current indications are that the very unsettled weather that is expected to dominate the Christmas period is likely to continue into the New Year. Spells of mild, wet and windy weather are likely to alternate with brighter, colder, showery periods, though the risk of any significant snow or prolonged wintry weather looks low except on high ground in the north. Further into January, the most probable scenario is for the unsettled conditions to ease somewhat with a greater chance of drier weather, whilst frost and fog become a little more likely.


Issued at: 1600 on Tue 17 Dec 2013


 


Something more seasonal at least


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Ally Pally Snowman
17 December 2013 16:01:14

UK Outlook for Sunday 22 Dec 2013 to Tuesday 31 Dec 2013:


It is likely to remain very unsettled through the Christmas period, with frequent spells of strong winds and rainfall. This will be interspersed with some brighter, showery weather at times. Severe gale force winds are possible, most likely in the north and west, although nowhere looks to be immune. Rain is also likely to be heavy at times, especially in the west, which will lead to a risk of some flooding. Temperatures are most likely to be near or above normal for December at first, but then trending a little colder, more especially later, when there looks to be an increasing risk of some snow in the north and on hills, whilst night frosts may become more common.


UK Outlook for Wednesday 1 Jan 2014 to Wednesday 15 Jan 2014:


Current indications are that the very unsettled weather that is expected to dominate the Christmas period is likely to continue into the New Year. Spells of mild, wet and windy weather are likely to alternate with brighter, colder, showery periods, though the risk of any significant snow or prolonged wintry weather looks low except on high ground in the north. Further into January, the most probable scenario is for the unsettled conditions to ease somewhat with a greater chance of drier weather, whilst frost and fog become a little more likely.


Issued at: 1600 on Tue 17 Dec 2013


 


Something more seasonal at least

Originally Posted by: Gooner 




It could be worse but the South looks like getting no snow before mid Jan now. That's half the winter done!


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Gooner
17 December 2013 16:05:55


UK Outlook for Sunday 22 Dec 2013 to Tuesday 31 Dec 2013:


It is likely to remain very unsettled through the Christmas period, with frequent spells of strong winds and rainfall. This will be interspersed with some brighter, showery weather at times. Severe gale force winds are possible, most likely in the north and west, although nowhere looks to be immune. Rain is also likely to be heavy at times, especially in the west, which will lead to a risk of some flooding. Temperatures are most likely to be near or above normal for December at first, but then trending a little colder, more especially later, when there looks to be an increasing risk of some snow in the north and on hills, whilst night frosts may become more common.


UK Outlook for Wednesday 1 Jan 2014 to Wednesday 15 Jan 2014:


Current indications are that the very unsettled weather that is expected to dominate the Christmas period is likely to continue into the New Year. Spells of mild, wet and windy weather are likely to alternate with brighter, colder, showery periods, though the risk of any significant snow or prolonged wintry weather looks low except on high ground in the north. Further into January, the most probable scenario is for the unsettled conditions to ease somewhat with a greater chance of drier weather, whilst frost and fog become a little more likely.


Issued at: 1600 on Tue 17 Dec 2013


 


Something more seasonal at least


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 




It could be worse but the South looks like getting no snow before mid Jan now. That's half the winter done!

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Same as last year IMBY so no panic yet


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Jive Buddy
17 December 2013 17:26:14


Well Faversham has frequent snowfalls that don't even get a mention on the BBC but get an inch of slush in Dymchurch and it's a national emergency.
Clear prejudice by the media IMO.


 



Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Yes but Faversham has a denser population...just you try asking the locals a simple question 😉....mind you, if I had a brewery on my doorstep, I'd probably be incapable of answer most simple questions too :D


Edit: No wait, that doesn't tie up with not getting any media attention does it? Bah! I'm confued - one too many Shepherd Neames in The Chapel today!


It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

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Jive Buddy
17 December 2013 17:29:58




 



Should be some white stuff to mention as long as your forecast includes the northern half of the country...


Originally Posted by: DEW 


True Rob, but Steve's forecast is for Kent and I've yet to see a definition of 'north of the country' that includes Kent.


Unless you are extraordinarily parochial and live in Dover, perhaps......


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


True - as any Kentish Man or Man of Kent will tell you, the North begins at Watford


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


As a Gillingham fan, the North always began at Watford Gap Services on the M1. It was law that any UK place with a higher latitude than that, automatically had a team of "You dirty norvern baastids!"


It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

Location: St. Mary Cray, S.E. London border with Kent.
dagspot
17 December 2013 20:46:13
Mmm, my local metcheck seems to be showing anew year cold snap from somewhere ?!
http://www.metcheck.com/UK/14days.asp?zipcode=Barrhead&locationID=57892&lat=55.8&lon=-4.4&findtype= 
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DEW
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18 December 2013 07:51:57



It could be worse but the South looks like getting no snow before mid Jan now. That's half the winter done!

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Same as last year IMBY so no panic yet



If you want to clutch at straws, the 1947 snowfalls in the south didn't begin until the last week of January - we were just moving house south of London. I remember piles of snow and thinking what a waste of sledging time it was setting up in a new place. But it got better...


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Gooner
18 December 2013 07:56:40




It could be worse but the South looks like getting no snow before mid Jan now. That's half the winter done!

Originally Posted by: DEW 


Same as last year IMBY so no panic yet


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


If you want to clutch at straws, the 1947 snowfalls in the south didn't begin until the last week of January - we were just moving house south of London. I remember piles of snow and thinking what a waste of sledging time it was setting up in a new place. But it got better...



It's no straw clutching, just stating a fact


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
18 December 2013 14:57:03

Thursday:


Colder for Thursday but with plenty of sunshine through the day. Risk of a brief spell of rain, sleet and snow during the evening. Very strong winds will ease. Maximum Temperature 8 °C.


First taste of Winter tomorrow IMBY


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Saint Snow
18 December 2013 15:58:16

the 1947 snowfalls in the south didn't begin until the last week of January


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


And DEW wins the 'Winter 2013/14 Award For First Mention of 1947 as a Reason Not to be Despondent at the Prospect of Crap Winter Weather'


 



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LeedsLad123
18 December 2013 17:18:03
The first accumulating snowfall here didn't occur until 14 Jan last winter, so I'm not concerned about the lack of snow (although we've already had a bit of snow - back in November). We also had a min temp of 10C in early January, before the 'cool but snowy' spell began.
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Gooner
18 December 2013 22:40:09

Darren Bett


" Possible flooding in the South on Saturday "


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


18 December 2013 22:52:15

Darren Bett


" Possible flooding in the South on Saturday "

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Very likely I would say. The WeatherPro app is suggesting 27mm of rain at present in Basingstoke on Saturday. There is surface water on my lawn after this evening's rain so it won't take much more for flooding issues to arise.

More worrying is the current suggestion for an incredible 81mm here on Christmas Eve and a further 23mm on Boxing Day. This numbers will no doubt move around a fair bit in the coming days but the general trend is clear. By Boxing Day we could have serious flooding issues in many areas.
idj20
18 December 2013 22:55:48

It's blowing a full on gale and it's pouring down over here at the moment . . . and yet the Met Office hadn't even issued any kind of warnings whatsoever for my region. I don't like to bad mouth the "firm" but on this occasion I think that is a poor show on their part.
  What I'm experiencing right now would certainly be cause for concern when it comes to travel. It's true that I did say that I've never been a big fan of the Met Office's complex four-tier warning system and how I don't really "use" it that much, but I would have thought this evening's event would at least warrant an Amber level.


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SnowJon
19 December 2013 13:17:38

Nice update from the Met Office for coldies in the North:


UK Outlook for Tuesday 24 Dec 2013 to Thursday 2 Jan 2014:


Staying mainly unsettled and very windy with showers or longer periods of rain, heavy in places, especially in the north and west. Gale force winds are likely with severe gales or storm force winds possible; especially, but not exclusively, in the north and west. From Christmas Day onwards, the greatest risk of the very strong winds and heavy rain may move further south with colder temperatures in the northwest allowing snow to low levels here, rather than just over high ground. Otherwise, temperatures generally near normal or rather mild in the south at first. Towards the end of the period, it should remain unsettled with showers and longer spells of rain, though the risk of severe gales is likely to reduce.


Updated: 1147 on Thu 19 Dec 2013


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doctormog
19 December 2013 22:43:24

Nice update from the Met Office for coldies in the North:


UK Outlook for Tuesday 24 Dec 2013 to Thursday 2 Jan 2014:


Staying mainly unsettled and very windy with showers or longer periods of rain, heavy in places, especially in the north and west. Gale force winds are likely with severe gales or storm force winds possible; especially, but not exclusively, in the north and west. From Christmas Day onwards, the greatest risk of the very strong winds and heavy rain may move further south with colder temperatures in the northwest allowing snow to low levels here, rather than just over high ground. Otherwise, temperatures generally near normal or rather mild in the south at first. Towards the end of the period, it should remain unsettled with showers and longer spells of rain, though the risk of severe gales is likely to reduce.


Updated: 1147 on Thu 19 Dec 2013

Originally Posted by: SnowJon 



Yes, a bit of everything on offer there.
Arcus
20 December 2013 14:46:11

Par for the course, given the current output:


 


UK Outlook for Wednesday 25 Dec 2013 to Friday 3 Jan 2014:


Christmas Day is likely to be rather cold with sunny spells and showers. Showers will be heavy and wintry at times; especially in the northwest where it will remain very windy. Showers will continue into Boxing Day, before more persistent rain and strong winds pushes in from the west later with hill snow in the north. Thereafter, it will remain rather unsettled and often windy, with the greatest risk of the very strong winds and heavy rain mainly in the north and west. Temperatures generally near normal or rather mild in the south, and near or a little below in the north. However, incursions of colder air will spread down from the northwest at times, allowing snow to low levels in the north, rather than just over high ground.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
doctormog
20 December 2013 16:36:16
On the other hand you could argue that there are currently 10 weeks of winter left but I guess that sounds less melodramatic 😉
Quantum
20 December 2013 20:54:48

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/449815/Snow-warning-Winter-2013-will-see-a-White-Christmas-across-UK-says-shock-weather-forecast?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-uk-news+(Daily+Express+%3A%3A+UK+Feed)


 


Cloudy with a chance of bullshit. 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gooner
20 December 2013 23:24:53



Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


nsrobins
21 December 2013 00:27:16


'The Met Office issued a shock forecast tonight warning that plunging temperatures could trigger widespread snow on Christmas Day.


The festive predictions prompted bookmakers to slash the odds of snow falling next Wednesday.


And even former BBC weatherman Michael Fish declared confidently: “It WILL be a White Christmas.”'


 


Lord give me strength


Neil
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