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Hungry Tiger
17 December 2013 14:30:20


That is quite amazing looking at that.


That in fact was the coldest week of the whole of that winter - 19th to 26 January 1963.


 


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Gavin P
17 December 2013 14:32:14

Hi all,


Here's today's video update;


Stormy Christmas - Colder After Christmas?


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Looks like we might start to feel a little more seasonable during the post Christmas "no man's land"


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picturesareme
17 December 2013 14:44:07
Viewing the northern hemisphere, the last gfs run had high pressure over the pole region from around 9 days and it remained for the rest of the run.

The pressure was weak but still had the vortex split, at one point it was split in 3. The best the uk did was a northerly plunge around the end of the month.

Now seeing as this is still quite far out what is there to say that closer to the time the high pressure might end up a little stronger??
Maunder Minimum
17 December 2013 14:51:20



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/1963/Rrea00119630119.gif  if only


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


That is quite amazing looking at that.


That in fact was the coldest week of the whole of that winter - 19th to 26 January 1963.


 


Originally Posted by: colin46 


Happy days! I still remember it, even though I was only eight years old - it was a magnificent winter.


New world order coming.
Gooner
17 December 2013 16:37:00

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn19217.png


Xmas day is chilly


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
17 December 2013 16:40:35

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2013121712/gfsnh-0-240.png?12


Stormy weather on the way


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


nsrobins
17 December 2013 16:41:34

Killer storms and sleet flurries aside, anyone into riding the waves needs to dust the drysuits off and wax the boards - the swell is going to be humungous along SW coasts over the holiday period.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Charmhills
17 December 2013 16:57:07


Killer storms and sleet flurries aside, anyone into riding the waves needs to dust the drysuits off and wax the boards - the swell is going to be humungous along SW coasts over the holiday period.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


How about some squal lines thrown in for good measure.


Loughborough, EM.

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Duane.
Rob K
17 December 2013 18:51:31
ECM is ramping up Hurricane Rao for Boxing Day once again, with a central pressure below 940mb.

http://meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2013121712/ECM1-216.GIF?17-0 
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Maunder Minimum
17 December 2013 19:06:30

ECM is ramping up Hurricane Rao for Boxing Day once again, with a central pressure below 940mb.

http://meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2013121712/ECM1-216.GIF?17-0


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

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That would blow the cobwebs out of the attic, along with the tiles off the roof!


New world order coming.
The Beast from the East
17 December 2013 19:08:10
Shame the Azores high can't be flattened. It always seems to stop these troughs from sinking south
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Charmhills
17 December 2013 19:12:39

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.gif


Nasty!


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
GIBBY
17 December 2013 19:20:48

Good evening folks. Here is tonight's look at the NWP output taken from the midday runs for today Tuesday December 17th 2013.


The weather is shown by all models to be very unsettled and often very windy with gales and heavy rain sweeping across the UK tomorrow, especially later in the day and toward the NW where some storm force gusts are possible. Through Thursday the weather will turn colder and more showery with some wintry showers in the North with even a little wintriness to the showers across the hills and moors of the SW too at times. Then through Friday and the weekend the weather stays very unsettled and windy with further spells of heavy rain and it will become mild again across most areas with the North seeing slightly colder weather again on Sunday with showers.


GFS then shows next week as increasingly stormy with potential for damaging winds and high rainfall totals giving rise to flooding issues in prone areas over Christmas. In addition colder air will migrate slowly across Britain at times with the risk of snowfall albeit mostly transient over hills and mountains from Christmas on. Little change is then shown in the pattern through the entire run which means little significant change in the weather type until after the New Year.


UKMO closes it's run next Monday with Low pressure in the \north Atlantic with a strong to gale SW flow with mild and wet weather extending NE across the UK early next week.


GEM tonight shows a very windy and wet Christmas week with incessant spells of rain, heavy at times mixed with spells of colder and more showery weather with snow on Northern hills.


NAVGEM also shows a wet and windy spell to start next week with some potentially stormy conditions surrounding a small daughter low crossing Southern Britain next Tuesday.


ECM tonight shows a very disturbed Christmas with strong winds throughout next week with rain, showers and severe gales all featuring with Boxing Day looking likely to be the worst day with severe Westerly gales and cold weather with squally wintry showers across all areas.


The GFS Ensembles again show no changes to the pattern that's been maintained for some time now from the GFS output. Low pressure and copious rain events coupled with strong winds remain the most important weather events over the coming few weeks with little chance of anything other than fleeting wintry showers on the hills and mountains in among the wind and rain.


The Jet Stream continues to have the UK in it's sights as it crosses the Atlantic across the UK and way into Europe over the coming period. The sine wave pattern occasionally pushes it further North then back South as each opposing air mass passes over the UK.


In Summary tonight at the risk of sounding like a broken record nothing has changed tonight. Day to day variations in the impact of storm systems is all academic as the genera message is one of wet and windy weather very frequently for all over the next few weeks with potential for some very powerful depressions delivering extremely low pressure and severe gale or storm force winds almost anywhere over the period. There is also scope for some colder polar air in the mix at times later delivering some sleet or snow to Northern and Western hills and mountains.


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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Hippydave
17 December 2013 20:11:12

And for this evenings cold weather straw to clutch I offer up the GFS T384 chart:-


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3841.png


High latitude HP showing it's hand and the PV remnant gradually fizzling over the UK. 2 days later an increasingly cold easterly sets in and Kent gets buried in a monumental Daily Express snowy apocalypse*.


Before then wet, possibly very windy and cool enough at times for some snow in the North, chiefly over high ground but not exclusively


I suspect localised flooding will be an issue for some - the cycle to work this morning had a few flooded lanes which shows things are still damp enough down here that any extra water won't drain off too well!


*Preceding statement may be misleading &/or wishcasting rubbish.


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Work: Tonbridge
Gooner
17 December 2013 20:14:44


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.gif


Nasty!


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Indeed Duane, Boxing Day looks rough ..................very rough


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hungry Tiger
17 December 2013 20:19:16


ECM is ramping up Hurricane Rao for Boxing Day once again, with a central pressure below 940mb.

http://meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2013121712/ECM1-216.GIF?17-0


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

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Originally Posted by: Rob K 


That would blow the cobwebs out of the attic, along with the tiles off the roof!



Exactly. Ouch.


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Hungry Tiger
17 December 2013 20:21:04


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.gif


Nasty!


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 



If that's on the verification list - then we'll start to see some warnings soon.



 


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Arcus
17 December 2013 20:26:07



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.gif


Nasty!


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Indeed Duane, Boxing Day looks rough ..................very rough


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Always is in our house 


Alot of variance in the models, Xmas day itself still in the firing line if timings change upstream


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Hungry Tiger
17 December 2013 20:28:14




http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.gif


Nasty!


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Indeed Duane, Boxing Day looks rough ..................very rough


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Always is in our house 


Alot of variance in the models, Xmas day itself still in the firing line if timings change upstream


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Either - It looks like a very rough Xmas holiday.


 


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Gusty
17 December 2013 21:00:07

100% text book zonality. 


Any real cold is truly bottled up well to the north.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.gif


 


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Hungry Tiger
17 December 2013 21:10:29


100% text book zonality. 


Any real cold is truly bottled up well to the north.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.gif


 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


And strong zonality as well.


I am getting a good idea now of what my CET guess/forecast figure will be for January.


And, no, it will not be a low one.


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Whether Idle
17 December 2013 21:13:15

Looking at the models I feel I must say that the potential for an almighty wallop from an Atlantic storm is clearly there for all to see.  A low deepening at just the wrong time, a pressure rise behind a low at just the wrong time, and we could be in for a majorly devastating storm.  Im not trying to be alarmist, just calling it as I see it.  The thermal gardient off the eastern seaboard of the USA, the strong jet and strong zonal flow all add up to potential for some really hair raising conditions.


The weather is far from cold and blocked, but it is a throw-back to the days of excting zonality - not for me a contradiction in terms, as a fan of synoptics and weather, this next phase is looking on a knife-edge between exciting and terrifying.


 


WI


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Gusty
17 December 2013 21:18:35


Looking at the models I feel I must say that the potential for an almighty wallop from an Atlantic storm is clearly there for all to see.  A low deepening at just the wrong time, a pressure rise behind a low at just the wrong time, and we could be in for a majorly devastating storm.  Im not trying to be alarmist, just calling it as I see it.  The thermal gardient off the eastern seaboard of the USA, the strong jet and strong zonal flow all add up to potential for some really hair raising conditions.


The weather is far from cold and blocked, but it is a throw-back to the days of excting zonality - not for me a contradiction in terms, as a fan of synoptics and weather, this next phase is looking on a knife-edge between exciting and terrifying.


 


WI


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 



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Gooner
17 December 2013 21:39:53


Looking at the models I feel I must say that the potential for an almighty wallop from an Atlantic storm is clearly there for all to see.  A low deepening at just the wrong time, a pressure rise behind a low at just the wrong time, and we could be in for a majorly devastating storm.  Im not trying to be alarmist, just calling it as I see it.  The thermal gardient off the eastern seaboard of the USA, the strong jet and strong zonal flow all add up to potential for some really hair raising conditions.


The weather is far from cold and blocked, but it is a throw-back to the days of excting zonality - not for me a contradiction in terms, as a fan of synoptics and weather, this next phase is looking on a knife-edge between exciting and terrifying.


 


WI


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Hate it, storm force winds are so dangerous , this weeks winds look bad enough but the ones for Xmas , that is a different matter


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hungry Tiger
17 December 2013 21:44:08



Looking at the models I feel I must say that the potential for an almighty wallop from an Atlantic storm is clearly there for all to see.  A low deepening at just the wrong time, a pressure rise behind a low at just the wrong time, and we could be in for a majorly devastating storm.  Im not trying to be alarmist, just calling it as I see it.  The thermal gardient off the eastern seaboard of the USA, the strong jet and strong zonal flow all add up to potential for some really hair raising conditions.


The weather is far from cold and blocked, but it is a throw-back to the days of excting zonality - not for me a contradiction in terms, as a fan of synoptics and weather, this next phase is looking on a knife-edge between exciting and terrifying.


 


WI


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Hate it, storm force winds are so dangerous , this weeks winds look bad enough but the ones for Xmas , that is a different matter


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 



Exactly - its a case of just watch and wait - Us guys on this excellent weather site will find out about things sooner than most.


 


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