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Gusty
04 January 2014 08:28:36

Fortunately here in the east of Kent we appear to be too far east to be affected by the heaviest pulses of rain today. The wind, however is a strong southerly blowing directly onshore. The high tide of 7.4 metres at Folkestone just after 11am will make for some good wave action. I will try to get some photo's later. 

Steve - Folkestone, Kent
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Stormchaser
04 January 2014 09:05:38

http://www.sat24.com/gb?ir=true


The frontal wave is developing as per GFS... or perhaps more substantially than that.


The rain totals are already at the values projected by GFS and NAE yesterday, and according to the morning NAE run, the hefty totals will remain across the Solent and parts of Central/SE England (extending up to just west of London) until between 3 and 6pm as the front pivots before clearing away NNE.


The Met Office outlook from yesterday, which was ignoring the GFS and NAE output, looks to be well wide of the mark, as it took the rain swiftly away east leaving it dry by noon. I could not understand why they were doing that.


 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observations/city-of-london-greater-london#?tab=map&map=Rainfall&zoom=6&lon=-4.00&lat=51.54&fcTime=1388781000


Looking to the SW, that intense blob is of concern, as it's become slow moving like the frontal system, and is also on an intensifying trend. The current track takes it to the Solent which could be what NAE is seeing. GFS seems less convinced, with rain clearing the Solent by 3pm.


Combined with what looks to be heavier rain on Monday than was projected on previous runs, NAE delivers 37-46mm across the Solent over the 48 hours starting 00z today, with 20-30mm totals extending NE from there:


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2014/01/04/basis06/ukuk/rsum/14010606_0406.gif


 


Funnily enough, I'm heading back to Reading today, so I'll be following the rain 

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Whether Idle
04 January 2014 10:08:12


http://www.sat24.com/gb?ir=true


The frontal wave is developing as per GFS... or perhaps more substantially than that.


The rain totals are already at the values projected by GFS and NAE yesterday, and according to the morning NAE run, the hefty totals will remain across the Solent and parts of Central/SE England (extending up to just west of London) until between 3 and 6pm as the front pivots before clearing away NNE.


The Met Office outlook from yesterday, which was ignoring the GFS and NAE output, looks to be well wide of the mark, as it took the rain swiftly away east leaving it dry by noon. I could not understand why they were doing that.


 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observations/city-of-london-greater-london#?tab=map&map=Rainfall&zoom=6&lon=-4.00&lat=51.54&fcTime=1388781000


Looking to the SW, that intense blob is of concern, as it's become slow moving like the frontal system, and is also on an intensifying trend. The current track takes it to the Solent which could be what NAE is seeing. GFS seems less convinced, with rain clearing the Solent by 3pm.


Combined with what looks to be heavier rain on Monday than was projected on previous runs, NAE delivers 37-46mm across the Solent over the 48 hours starting 00z today, with 20-30mm totals extending NE from there:


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2014/01/04/basis06/ukuk/rsum/14010606_0406.gif


 


Funnily enough, I'm heading back to Reading today, so I'll be following the rain 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


Indeed.  If I lived on a flood plain in Dorset I would take one look at the radar and run:


 


http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

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Rob K
04 January 2014 11:07:27
Yes it has been varying between moderate and torrential continuously since at least 3.30am here (when I was woken up by a certain 2 year old 😞 ) and looking at the radar the rain band is moving almost directly along its axis so it just keeps coming!

Last night I noticed the road out of the business park next to Fleet station was under water and floodwater was almost up to some of the offices. Hate to think what it is like by now!
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Deep Powder
04 January 2014 11:21:28

Yes it has been varying between moderate and torrential continuously since at least 3.30am here (when I was woken up by a certain 2 year old 😞 ) and looking at the radar the rain band is moving almost directly along its axis so it just keeps coming!

Last night I noticed the road out of the business park next to Fleet station was under water and floodwater was almost up to some of the offices. Hate to think what it is like by now!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



Ahh the calling card of the 2 year old, I know it well (although my daughter has just turned 3)! Just for fun, to add in to the mix, we now have a 1 month old as well........

Anyways, much as Rob, moderate to torrential rain on and off since the early AM and still coming down. Felt sorry for the dust men out collecting our rubbish in it earlier....off to check river levels soon, Leatherhead to be flooded for the 3rd time in 2 weeks - probably. Just glad I don't live in a flood prone area of the town, feel sorry for those who do, this incessant rain must be terrible for them........
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Deep Powder
04 January 2014 11:23:31
Should have said the mole was well over its banks yesterday and that was before further heavy rain on saturated ground..........
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Global Warming
04 January 2014 11:42:55

The Met Office has now extended the duration of today's yellow warning for rain in the south to run until 1800hrs.


The rain has eased off here temporarily but more to come I am sure looking at the radar.


 

Jive Buddy
04 January 2014 12:48:31


Fortunately here in the east of Kent we appear to be too far east to be affected by the heaviest pulses of rain today. The wind, however is a strong southerly blowing directly onshore. The high tide of 7.4 metres at Folkestone just after 11am will make for some good wave action. I will try to get some photo's later. 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Just back from spending all morning at a house fire nr Canterbury. Journey there and back via Wingham, shows lots of fields that are now lakes. You could see how easy it would be for more rain to very problematic. Couldn't get to see the Stour or Gt Stour though sadly.

It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

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Rob K
04 January 2014 13:24:07

The Met Office has now extended the duration of today's yellow warning for rain in the south to run until 1800hrs.
The rain has eased off here temporarily but more to come I am sure looking at the radar.

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 



Yes a temporary lull looking at the radar. One thing is for sure, if we do get some frosty nights any time soon then the roads are going to be lethal, with all the run-off from the fields looking like continuing for days.
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Gooner
04 January 2014 13:54:58





Look at the mess the storm is making in Wales: www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wales-weather-30-dramatic-pictures-6466050

Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


http://i1.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article6465027.ece/ALTERNATES/s2197/JS30745570-6465027.jpg


 


That road appears to have been built directly on top of shingle 


Dodgy Welsh builders.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

In all probability, an excellent material for a sub-base to a road.


Originally Posted by: polarwind 


Not on the evidence of that photo 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


It's  a pretty stable material when contained by the concerete structure.  Of course once the concete and its foundations get destroyed you are just left with a shingle beach again.


The real question is the depth of the concrete containment.  I'm sure  if cost was no  object they could go down far enough to make it pretty impenetrable ...... of course that  level of  cost  might mean someone else doesn’t get their protection.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


I agree , if the concrete 'shutters' weren't part of the construction then they wouldn't have used the shingle

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Marcus
Banbury
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idj20
04 January 2014 13:57:22


Fortunately here in the east of Kent we appear to be too far east to be affected by the heaviest pulses of rain today. The wind, however is a strong southerly blowing directly onshore. The high tide of 7.4 metres at Folkestone just after 11am will make for some good wave action. I will try to get some photo's later. 


Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 


Just back from spending all morning at a house fire nr Canterbury. Journey there and back via Wingham, shows lots of fields that are now lakes. You could see how easy it would be for more rain to very problematic. Couldn't get to see the Stour or Gt Stour though sadly.

Originally Posted by: Gusty 



Although it does look like we should lose the stormy winds as we go into next week, unfortunately the rain isn't going to go away at any rate.
    And so with that to mind, I wonder how long it'll be before chunks of the Leas Cliff start to break off as the sandstone and soil reaches saturation point. Remember that huge landslide to the right of the Leas Lifts a few years ago? Another section also took away an old council garage/toilets a little further to the west. Looking at the re-landscaped area, you'd never think that trusty garage I used to attend every morning back in my council gardening days was once sited there.
  I remember when there were landslides in the same areas in the late '80's as winters in that period were often wet.

Anyway, looking forward to your shots. I'd do the same thing myself but I'm having one of my "squiffy" don't trust a wet fart days.
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Gooner
04 January 2014 13:58:08

I've just had a drive to look at the River Cherwell, it is close to bursting its banks, nearby car parks will be under water if the rain continues.


I am not too sure the it was forecast to last as long as it has today ??

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Marcus
Banbury
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Darren S
04 January 2014 14:24:32
Floods closing roads all over the place around here. On our way back from Lower Earley, the A327 between Shinfield and Arborfield was already partly flooded in one place where a drain had water coming out of it, and the flood meadows by the River Loddon are within an inch or two of spilling out over the road.

Meanwhile, some friends are supposed to be coming to ours from Eversley this afternoon (between here and Yateley). The main B3272 to Yateley is apparently already closed, and by the looks of Google traffic, the B3016 between Eversley and the A30 is also closed as well; meaning our friends are completely cut off! 

Rob K, have you experienced much flooding around Yateley?
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garybournemouth
04 January 2014 14:29:59

The Met Office has now extended the duration of today's yellow warning for rain in the south to run until 1800hrs.
The rain has eased off here temporarily but more to come I am sure looking at the radar.

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 



It has not stopped raining here all day. Many local roads underwater.
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Phil G
04 January 2014 14:33:58
Thanks Ian,
Too much information in your last paragraph, but hope things settle down.
Good point raised about the landslide and wonder if we will here more of these in the coming days. Saw that cliff crumble on the news down on the Sussex coast, probably helped by rainfall saturation as well as the tide.
Rob K
04 January 2014 18:59:59

Floods closing roads all over the place around here. On our way back from Lower Earley, the A327 between Shinfield and Arborfield was already partly flooded in one place where a drain had water coming out of it, and the flood meadows by the River Loddon are within an inch or two of spilling out over the road.

Meanwhile, some friends are supposed to be coming to ours from Eversley this afternoon (between here and Yateley). The main B3272 to Yateley is apparently already closed, and by the looks of Google traffic, the B3016 between Eversley and the A30 is also closed as well; meaning our friends are completely cut off!

Rob K, have you experienced much flooding around Yateley?

Originally Posted by: Darren S 


Yes, I was trying to drive back from Eversley along the Reading Road and people were turning cars back near the village shop. Didn't look too bad there (half road flooded) but people were sweeping water away from buildings and must have been worse further along.

I went down to the River Blackwater to have a look at the levels. It was getting towards July 2007 levels and the power of the water under the bridge made me feel slightly uneasy driving over it. Between here and Sandhurst the back roads were nearly impassible with water coming up out of the drains and a lot of runoff from the fields.
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schmee
04 January 2014 22:25:58
The river wey is rising again tonight . It just got within its banks, now it tricking over again.
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Rob K
05 January 2014 22:25:20
Drove down to relatives in Barton on Sea today and the River Test was well over the banks where the M27 crosses it near Totton. Not that unusual to flood there but highest I've seen for a while.

Lots of surface water across the New Forest too with large areas under water in the heathland.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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garybournemouth
06 January 2014 23:32:08
The flood sirens have gone off tonight at Chiswell on Portland. The sirens are only sounded once overtopping of the shingle Chisel beach starts.


http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/10913119.STORMS_LATEST__Weather_and_travel_updates_as_floods_hit_the_county_as_fresh_weather_warning_is_issued_for_Dorset/ 




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schmee
07 January 2014 07:05:44
Over the that 20 days i've been watching our river with interest with the highest water over the christmas period, only one day did we see the river at normal levels, last Saturday. Most of the time roads closest to the river have been perminant fords.
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