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haghir22
19 January 2014 13:29:03
Anyone got a link to the 1pm?
YNWA
doctormog
19 January 2014 13:34:19
Here are today's extended outlooks from the Met Office and the risk of the rain preceded by snow on Friday is mentioned.

"UK Outlook for Friday 24 Jan 2014 to Sunday 2 Feb 2014:
A cold start at first, especially in central and eastern areas, with a risk of fog, frost and ice. Rain spreading southeast over much of the UK through Friday however, bringing milder conditions for most, but possibly preceded by snow for a time, mainly in the north. Temperatures initially cold, returning to around normal from the northwest. Winds strengthening, especially in the north and west where there is a risk of gales. From Sunday onwards the unsettled theme is likely to continue, especially in the north and west. Bands of rain are likely, with hill snow at times, interspersed with clearer, colder, more showery conditions, and brisk winds. Drier and brighter weather most likely in south/southeast. Temperatures near or slightly below normal with a continued risk of frost and fog.

UK Outlook for Monday 3 Feb 2014 to Monday 17 Feb 2014:
Current indications point towards changeable conditions persisting into the middle of February. The most likely scenario during this period would see northwestern parts of the UK affected by the most frequent bouts of unsettled and windy weather. Meanwhile southern and eastern regions should tend to see the longer spells of drier and brighter weather. Some colder periods are likely, particularly between weather systems, with large variations possible day by day depending on the timings of weather systems, but in general temperatures close to the seasonal average are most likely.

Issued at: 0400 on Sun 19 Jan 2014"

From www.metoffice.gov.uk

Gusty
19 January 2014 13:54:03



TS on BBC News - Next week slowly turning colder, perhaps very cold by the weekend. Will be interesting to see how that transpires in the Weather for the Week after 1pm.

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


I'm surprised they would be so bullish. Only UKMO shows something remotely "very cold", and even then only for a day


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Models are not everything.  Try your gut


Originally Posted by: dagspot 



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19 January 2014 13:58:34

Anyone got a link to the 1pm?

Originally Posted by: haghir22 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAwHmMYvH3Q


doctormog
19 January 2014 14:18:40

Anyone got a link to the 1pm?

Originally Posted by: four 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAwHmMYvH3Q

Originally Posted by: haghir22 



Yuk. I really wished I hadn't watched that! [sn_dead]
NDJF
19 January 2014 15:43:42


 
presume this was posted to quash anything TS may have implied?
 
              15 mins       

Colder air pushing across Europe this week gets blocked with wet and windy weather returning from Atlantic by next weekend. Still no winter


Gooner
19 January 2014 15:47:49


Anyone got a link to the 1pm?

Originally Posted by: four 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAwHmMYvH3Q


Originally Posted by: haghir22 


Noting too exciting there


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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NDJF
19 January 2014 15:49:57


well i have certainly seen worst forcast. granted not canadian type weather but not mild SW either and a with a loarge dose of HP to our NE and a beeb / meto forcast of stay tuned with regards next weekend they must think it a possibility to mention.
 
interersting in he grand scheme of things...

haghir22
19 January 2014 17:08:04

Anyone got a link to the 1pm?

Originally Posted by: four 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAwHmMYvH3Q

Originally Posted by: haghir22 



Thx.

YNWA
Essan
19 January 2014 17:46:46

For those who are missing Bren:

http://weatherman79.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/winter-forecasting-the-broken-clock-conundrum/


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Sevendust
19 January 2014 18:13:51


For those who are missing Bren:

http://weatherman79.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/winter-forecasting-the-broken-clock-conundrum/


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Very clever - should go viral

Snow Hoper
19 January 2014 19:06:26



For those who are missing Bren:

http://weatherman79.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/winter-forecasting-the-broken-clock-conundrum/


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Very clever - should go viral


Originally Posted by: Essan 


 


About time too


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bledur
19 January 2014 19:41:35

well i thought that 1pm forecast looked a lot more hopefull for some colder weather. that scandinavian high might become more dominant in time and lead to something wintry

ITSY
19 January 2014 20:11:02

alex deakins piece on the beeb website demonstrates why we shouldnt count any chickens yet

Gusty
19 January 2014 20:14:40

Evening 


Here are my updated thoughts for the weather in Kent for the week ahead.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhc3A35qcA0


 


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Lumi
19 January 2014 20:21:12

Am I right to presume the BBC / Met O are hinting at things turning colder because of the Scandi High?


Just caught the last bit of John Hammond forecast on news and think he was suggesting this.


Hope I am right could cheer things up in the model thread! What do they know that we do not?


Fingers crossed.


Been some very low surface temperatures in parts of Lapland. minus 30 to minus 40 celcius. The Finnish weather service put out a weather warning for cold weather for yesterday into today.


 


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Gooner
19 January 2014 20:55:37

J Hammond did say " colder for a time" which suggests it wont last that long


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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tallyho_83
20 January 2014 10:08:06
Monday 20 January Published at 10:00

Monthly Outlook

Summary


No real sign of winter so far. Will this change?

Having already reached the middle of winter - at least from a meteorological point of view - it would be fair to say that we haven't really seen much winter weather yet; the month of December was the fourth warmest across the UK, since 1910. The first half of January has seen higher than average temperatures too.

Is this going to change in the next few weeks? That question is keeping forecasters on thier toes at the moment.

Some of the longer range forecast models seem to keep dropping hints at colder weather on the horizon but then a couple of days later the same models change to something altogether milder. Over the next couple of weeks you can be sure that we'll be keeping our eyes peeled for signs of winter.


Monday 20 January—Sunday 26 January

Feeling cooler with some frost and fog

During the early part of this week many of us will experience two traditonal winter staples that, so far, have been notable in their absence this winter; frost and fog.

So far the succession of storms have kept poor visibility at bay and have meant that, for most, scraping your windscreen in the morning has been more the exception than the rule. However, a more settled spell of weather through Monday and Tuesday. By day this should bring some bright interludes. By night though it will bring frost and fog sharply into focus.

After a brief interlude of wetter weather midweek, we then return to cooler conditions towards the end of the week.

As we head towards the weekend, suggestions are that another frontal system will move in from the Atlantic. The crucial question though is "how cold will the air be that it is running into?"

If a pool of cold air has built up over the southern half of the UK then we could see some snow. If, on the other hand, everything is moving quicker and being stirred around more, we're probably talking more about a bit of sleet before some rain. As ever, timimg will be crucial.

By the end of the weekend, whether we've had snow or rain, it seems that a return to generally milder, wet and windy conditions is on the cards.


Monday 27 January—Sunday 2 February

The end of January - any sign of winter yet?

As ever, once we look at the second week we are looking more at trends than specific detail. The trend for this week seems to be one for low pressure systems to continue feeding in from the Atlantic. These are most likely to affect the north and west of the UK with higher pressure across the south and east holding these frontal bands at bay.

This set-up would bring some dry and bright spells to southern parts, though the price we pay for this would be cold, frosty nights and patches of fog. Wetter and windier conditions will persist further north with perhaps some snow on top of hills and mountains in northern England and Scotland.

If we do see this pattern it will be very interesting to see the end of month statistics. With temperatures in December coming in above average, will January follow suit?


Monday 3 February—Sunday 16 February

Still on the hunt for firm indications

Once again, the majority of longer range models tend to favour sticking with the pattern where the north and west see bands of rain at times, while the south and east favour drier, brighter but cool conditions.

For southern counties of England any spells of drier weather would almost certainly be welcome, given the current high groundwater levels. However, the continual track of weather systems across the northern half of the UK could lead to above average rainfall for northern Scotland.

Whether or not some of the computer projections continue to throw the odd idea of a colder snap into the mix remains to be seen. It's certainly not something that we should rule out - it is winter after all. One thing is for certain, it's something that we'll all be keeping a close eye on at the BBC Weather Centre.


Next week

Will we still be hunting for signs of winter? An interesting time in forecasting, for sure.

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schmee
20 January 2014 22:38:06


Evening 


Here are my updated thoughts for the weather in Kent for the week ahead.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhc3A35qcA0 no snow but a well presented thoughts.


 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Observations from around GUILDFORD in SURREY and now Nottingham
Gooner
21 January 2014 20:12:48

UK Outlook for Sunday 26 Jan 2014 to Tuesday 4 Feb 2014:


Turning very wet and windy on Sunday, with the heaviest rain and gales, locally severe, in the northwest. Rain should clear to sunshine and squally showers on Monday, with the best of the brightness in southeastern Britain. Mild at first in the south but turning colder. Thereafter the unsettled theme is likely to continue, especially in the north and west of the UK. Bands of rain are likely, with hill snow at times, interspersed with clearer, colder, more showery conditions, and brisk winds. The best of any drier, brighter weather is most likely in the south and southeast of the country, and there will be a continuing risk of local overnight frost and fog. Rather more settled weather is possible in the far south by the end of the period.


UK Outlook for Wednesday 5 Feb 2014 to Wednesday 19 Feb 2014:


Current indications point towards changeable conditions persisting into the middle of February. The most likely scenario during this period would see northwestern parts of the UK affected by the most frequent bouts of unsettled and windy weather. Meanwhile southern and eastern regions should tend to see the longer spells of drier and brighter weather. Some colder periods are possible, particularly between weather systems, but in general temperatures close to the seasonal average are most likely.


Issued at: 1600 on Tue 21 Jan 2014


Been such a disappointment this year, a stark reminder of the UK weather. I did have high expectations this year, mainly because of the previous 4 excellent years , at least next year my hopes wont be so high


This isnt a throw the towel in post , just a comment


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Ally Pally Snowman
21 January 2014 20:30:05

UK Outlook for Sunday 26 Jan 2014 to Tuesday 4 Feb 2014:


Turning very wet and windy on Sunday, with the heaviest rain and gales, locally severe, in the northwest. Rain should clear to sunshine and squally showers on Monday, with the best of the brightness in southeastern Britain. Mild at first in the south but turning colder. Thereafter the unsettled theme is likely to continue, especially in the north and west of the UK. Bands of rain are likely, with hill snow at times, interspersed with clearer, colder, more showery conditions, and brisk winds. The best of any drier, brighter weather is most likely in the south and southeast of the country, and there will be a continuing risk of local overnight frost and fog. Rather more settled weather is possible in the far south by the end of the period.


UK Outlook for Wednesday 5 Feb 2014 to Wednesday 19 Feb 2014:


Current indications point towards changeable conditions persisting into the middle of February. The most likely scenario during this period would see northwestern parts of the UK affected by the most frequent bouts of unsettled and windy weather. Meanwhile southern and eastern regions should tend to see the longer spells of drier and brighter weather. Some colder periods are possible, particularly between weather systems, but in general temperatures close to the seasonal average are most likely.


Issued at: 1600 on Tue 21 Jan 2014


Been such a disappointment this year, a stark reminder of the UK weather. I did have high expectations this year, mainly because of the previous 4 excellent years , at least next year my hopes wont be so high


This isnt a throw the towel in post , just a comment

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



The Meto have not put a foot wrong all winter and if they are correct again with the above forecast its game over for this winter.
For whatever reason they don't think the SW is going to have any effect on our weather.
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Gooner
21 January 2014 20:57:14


UK Outlook for Sunday 26 Jan 2014 to Tuesday 4 Feb 2014:


Turning very wet and windy on Sunday, with the heaviest rain and gales, locally severe, in the northwest. Rain should clear to sunshine and squally showers on Monday, with the best of the brightness in southeastern Britain. Mild at first in the south but turning colder. Thereafter the unsettled theme is likely to continue, especially in the north and west of the UK. Bands of rain are likely, with hill snow at times, interspersed with clearer, colder, more showery conditions, and brisk winds. The best of any drier, brighter weather is most likely in the south and southeast of the country, and there will be a continuing risk of local overnight frost and fog. Rather more settled weather is possible in the far south by the end of the period.


UK Outlook for Wednesday 5 Feb 2014 to Wednesday 19 Feb 2014:


Current indications point towards changeable conditions persisting into the middle of February. The most likely scenario during this period would see northwestern parts of the UK affected by the most frequent bouts of unsettled and windy weather. Meanwhile southern and eastern regions should tend to see the longer spells of drier and brighter weather. Some colder periods are possible, particularly between weather systems, but in general temperatures close to the seasonal average are most likely.


Issued at: 1600 on Tue 21 Jan 2014


Been such a disappointment this year, a stark reminder of the UK weather. I did have high expectations this year, mainly because of the previous 4 excellent years , at least next year my hopes wont be so high


This isnt a throw the towel in post , just a comment


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



The Meto have not put a foot wrong all winter and if they are correct again with the above forecast its game over for this winter.
For whatever reason they don't think the SW is going to have any effect on our weather.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


The Met O have been excellent , I agree , clearly a SW needs help elsewhere


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Nordic Snowman
21 January 2014 21:29:30



UK Outlook for Sunday 26 Jan 2014 to Tuesday 4 Feb 2014:


Turning very wet and windy on Sunday, with the heaviest rain and gales, locally severe, in the northwest. Rain should clear to sunshine and squally showers on Monday, with the best of the brightness in southeastern Britain. Mild at first in the south but turning colder. Thereafter the unsettled theme is likely to continue, especially in the north and west of the UK. Bands of rain are likely, with hill snow at times, interspersed with clearer, colder, more showery conditions, and brisk winds. The best of any drier, brighter weather is most likely in the south and southeast of the country, and there will be a continuing risk of local overnight frost and fog. Rather more settled weather is possible in the far south by the end of the period.


UK Outlook for Wednesday 5 Feb 2014 to Wednesday 19 Feb 2014:


Current indications point towards changeable conditions persisting into the middle of February. The most likely scenario during this period would see northwestern parts of the UK affected by the most frequent bouts of unsettled and windy weather. Meanwhile southern and eastern regions should tend to see the longer spells of drier and brighter weather. Some colder periods are possible, particularly between weather systems, but in general temperatures close to the seasonal average are most likely.


Issued at: 1600 on Tue 21 Jan 2014


Been such a disappointment this year, a stark reminder of the UK weather. I did have high expectations this year, mainly because of the previous 4 excellent years , at least next year my hopes wont be so high


This isnt a throw the towel in post , just a comment


Originally Posted by: Gooner 



The Meto have not put a foot wrong all winter and if they are correct again with the above forecast its game over for this winter.
For whatever reason they don't think the SW is going to have any effect on our weather.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


The Met O have been excellent , I agree , clearly a SW needs help elsewhere


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


MetO have been very good with these regularly updated forecasts - agreed.


However. with 2/3 of the winter nearly done, they have seemingly called the seasonal winter forecast wrong. It is almost like they got sucked in by a few certain, and now infamous, individuals....


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Essan
21 January 2014 22:05:31




UK Outlook for Sunday 26 Jan 2014 to Tuesday 4 Feb 2014:


Turning very wet and windy on Sunday, with the heaviest rain and gales, locally severe, in the northwest. Rain should clear to sunshine and squally showers on Monday, with the best of the brightness in southeastern Britain. Mild at first in the south but turning colder. Thereafter the unsettled theme is likely to continue, especially in the north and west of the UK. Bands of rain are likely, with hill snow at times, interspersed with clearer, colder, more showery conditions, and brisk winds. The best of any drier, brighter weather is most likely in the south and southeast of the country, and there will be a continuing risk of local overnight frost and fog. Rather more settled weather is possible in the far south by the end of the period.


UK Outlook for Wednesday 5 Feb 2014 to Wednesday 19 Feb 2014:


Current indications point towards changeable conditions persisting into the middle of February. The most likely scenario during this period would see northwestern parts of the UK affected by the most frequent bouts of unsettled and windy weather. Meanwhile southern and eastern regions should tend to see the longer spells of drier and brighter weather. Some colder periods are possible, particularly between weather systems, but in general temperatures close to the seasonal average are most likely.


Issued at: 1600 on Tue 21 Jan 2014


Been such a disappointment this year, a stark reminder of the UK weather. I did have high expectations this year, mainly because of the previous 4 excellent years , at least next year my hopes wont be so high


This isnt a throw the towel in post , just a comment


Originally Posted by: Nordic Snowman 



The Meto have not put a foot wrong all winter and if they are correct again with the above forecast its game over for this winter.
For whatever reason they don't think the SW is going to have any effect on our weather.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


The Met O have been excellent , I agree , clearly a SW needs help elsewhere


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


MetO have been very good with these regularly updated forecasts - agreed.


However. with 2/3 of the winter nearly done, they have seemingly called the seasonal winter forecast wrong. It is almost like they got sucked in by a few certain, and now infamous, individuals....


Originally Posted by: Gooner 



The MetO don't issue a seasonal forecast

However, their contingency planner's probability forecast issued on the 19th Dec (which is not a forecast as such) did suggest that "Latest predictions for UK-mean temperature favour near or just above average temperatures for January-February-March."


I believe though that the previous release did mention a slightly higher probability of below ave temps than above ave temps for the period Dec-Feb.   Which possibly suggests if there is to be any cold weather it's more likely in Feb.

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21 January 2014 22:23:32



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Pacific jet quiets down dramatically over next 8-days, but Atlantic gets cranking above 200-knots


9:30 PM - 21 Jan 2014


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Development of powerful Atlantic jet means only one thing for UK more strong winds and heavy rain on the way at times @KennyL100 @RyanMaue


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