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ARTzeman
19 January 2014 23:14:05

Time will come tomorrow with another dry day..With of course FOG which nobody likes...





Some people walk in the rain.
Others just get wet.
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Andy Woodcock
19 January 2014 23:24:06
It was supposed to be a nice day today but after just 2 hours of sun it started raining again and the afternoon was miserable.

It's tempting to say this is the worst winter ever but the truth is 2006/07 and 2007/08 were nearly as bad so it's just varying degrees of crapness.

One positive note is that spring should come early this year, the winter flowers are doing great and with a lack of frost the grass is slowly growing, if we get a nice warm spell late march summer could be here by Easter.

Last year was shocking with the latest spring I have ever known.

Andy
Andy Woodcock
Penrith
Cumbria

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Medlock Vale Weather
20 January 2014 00:59:44

After this frost outside at the moment looks like that may be it for a while  could February be snow free too? lived here since the 70's and there's never been a snowless Winter, hopefully that trend will continue! 


Anyway am off to bed to savour the crisp frost in the morning, who knows at this rate that may be the last frost till October  - hope it's still there by the time I get up and it doesn't cloud over lol. 

Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
tallyho_83
20 January 2014 01:04:21

I just drove back from north Devon to Exeter it was -3c near Tiverton with freezing fog and then as I arrived Exeter around 1230am there was spits of drizzly rain falling on top of frozen ground with an air temp of 0c. Why no snow flurry or shower or snizzle/snow grains etc? Is this due to the temperature at dew points or warmer air aloth!? - Put it this way - I was not expecting to see rain shower after the -2-3c and severe frost/freezing fog and ice over Exmoor towards Tiverton etc.

Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Saint Snow
20 January 2014 09:19:55


..With of course FOG which nobody likes...


Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


 



 


I love fog!


 


 


Martin
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ARTzeman
20 January 2014 09:46:44

Got misty hills here after this mornings frost.. Spring sunshine again here now...





Some people walk in the rain.
Others just get wet.
I Just Blow my horn or trumpet
Charmhills
20 January 2014 10:02:39

richard, I feel for you mate, I really do! A quite glorious day today, unbroken sunshine...my moan,,its not forecast to last

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

In contrast it never even got light here today in the persistent rain and nagging cold damp wind. Trust me, I wouldn't be moaning if we got a nice mild-feeling sunny day!

Originally Posted by: chichesterweatherfan 


Be thankful its not happening during the summer months Michael.

Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Saint Snow
20 January 2014 15:40:16


Be thankful its not happening during the summer months Michael.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


 


The problem is, it frequently does!


 


Martin
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20 January 2014 23:11:42

It was supposed to be a nice day today but after just 2 hours of sun it started raining again and the afternoon was miserable. It's tempting to say this is the worst winter ever but the truth is 2006/07 and 2007/08 were nearly as bad so it's just varying degrees of crapness. One positive note is that spring should come early this year, the winter flowers are doing great and with a lack of frost the grass is slowly growing, if we get a nice warm spell late march summer could be here by Easter. Last year was shocking with the latest spring I have ever known. Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


I really feel for you Andy but I don't think this is your worst winter ever, as I recall in previous years your snow shield worked overtime, making you a green island when most of the country had snow!  I'm not convinced Spring will come early either.  It may be a case of winter coming late again and delaying Spring, just like last year when we got our first snow on 17th January.  Sorry!   

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Matty H
21 January 2014 09:48:38

16 years ago today in the midst of the worst winter of my lifetime I woke up to lovely winter scenes courtesy of a snowy northerly. The filth I woke up to today ensures that winter 1997/98 can now lose it's unwanted accolade 


Absolutely unreal it just keeps on getting worse. Each week delivers another kick in the teeth. Utterly rank and putrid out there. It's vile. Dark, raining and of course a SE wind. Nothing else delivers garbage like this


This unmitigated horror show of a winter is making me sick to the stomach literally. I am almost never ill but this week I've been struck down by a sickness bug which I blame solely on the foul conditions. The complete lack of any normal hard or even moderate frost to kill off bugs and germs. Nothing but a few pathetic frosts of the brevity and intensity normally associated with April or May


Haven't been outdoors since Wednesday and even then I didn't get out on my usual lunchtime walk because it was one of umpteen days of rotten wet SE'ly crap. Most of my holiday over Christmas and New Year was washed out and all weekends before Christmas were awful. This one is the worst of the lot. It's just a danger to both physical and mental health. An outrageously horrible depressing nasty winter. I am beyond even caring about seeing snow. Just want to see the back of this soul destroying tripe and start being able to actually enjoy being outdoors again.



 

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 



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Matty H
21 January 2014 09:53:09
For all of you suffering this wonderful, mild winter, you'll get your revenge in spring. I'll take a bet up now with anyone that winter will arrive in the shape of a cold and unsettled spring with talk of convective snow showers etc. you wait....
Yate, Nr Bristol
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ARTzeman
21 January 2014 10:20:53

Bring IT ON !!!! Should have been wintry enough for some this morning with Fog and Frost....  Do  Need some more days of this but not the wet stuff....ie   Rain...





Some people walk in the rain.
Others just get wet.
I Just Blow my horn or trumpet
tallyho_83
21 January 2014 10:26:03

For all of you suffering this wonderful, mild winter, you'll get your revenge in spring. I'll take a bet up now with anyone that winter will arrive in the shape of a cold and unsettled spring with talk of convective snow showers etc. you wait....

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


We will see about that! Mind you last year there was snow flurries even in April and on 2nd April we have snow falling. I remember between 20th March and begining of April we didn't get above 4c on some days.


I don't see how you consider this wonderful? When so many people and households have been under water, faced power cuts and floods etc...I think we want to see more sun and less rain mild - like it will be later today will only mean more rain. People are fedup with rain it's relentless day after day.


At least we save on heating bills and managed up to 30hours of dry weather... yesterday and earlier this morning!


 

Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Magical Moon
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cowman
21 January 2014 10:27:23

For all of you suffering this wonderful, mild winter, you'll get your revenge in spring. I'll take a bet up now with anyone that winter will arrive in the shape of a cold and unsettled spring with talk of convective snow showers etc. you wait....

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



I fear you may be right.😠 😠
tallyho_83
21 January 2014 10:31:52
I don't want an unsettled spring.....not more rain!! Cold snowy winters and warm hot summers! Surely that's not asking for too much?! :-(
Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Magical Moon
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ARTzeman
21 January 2014 10:32:45


For all of you suffering this wonderful, mild winter, you'll get your revenge in spring. I'll take a bet up now with anyone that winter will arrive in the shape of a cold and unsettled spring with talk of convective snow showers etc. you wait....

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


We will see about that! Mind you last year there was snow flurries even in April and on 2nd April we have snow falling. I remember between 20th March and begining of April we didn't get above 4c on some days.


I don't see how you consider this wonderful? When so many people and households have been under water, faced power cuts and floods etc...I think we want to see more sun and less rain mild - like it will be later today will only mean more rain. People are fedup with rain it's relentless day after day.


At least we save on heating bills and managed up to 30hours of dry weather... yesterday and earlier this morning!


 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


NOT saving money on heating bills as need heating  on and a small humidifier to keep out the damp....





Some people walk in the rain.
Others just get wet.
I Just Blow my horn or trumpet
tallyho_83
21 January 2014 10:34:38
Someone on the BBC weather forecast last night said that the coldest so far this winter was actually back in November. haha!
Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


Matty H
21 January 2014 10:38:03

For all of you suffering this wonderful, mild winter, you'll get your revenge in spring. I'll take a bet up now with anyone that winter will arrive in the shape of a cold and unsettled spring with talk of convective snow showers etc. you wait....

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


We will see about that! Mind you last year there was snow flurries even in April and on 2nd April we have snow falling. I remember between 20th March and begining of April we didn't get above 4c on some days.


I don't see how you consider this wonderful? When so many people and households have been under water, faced power cuts and floods etc...I think we want to see more sun and less rain mild - like it will be later today will only mean more rain. People are fedup with rain it's relentless day after day.


At least we save on heating bills and managed up to 30hours of dry weather... yesterday and earlier this morning!


 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Ah yes, the predictable attempted guilt trip. "Don't enjoy the mild weather, think of the flooded victims" Change the record. Mind you this is a moaning thread, so there you go, I'm moaning. At you. 😉

I hate cold weather, always have. Hate rain as well, but unfortunately mild in winter usually means wet as well.

You're right about the fuel bills though. The heating has barely been on. Was on for an hour earlier to take the chill off what was probably the worst of the 3 frosts we've had this entire winter.
Yate, Nr Bristol
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tallyho_83
21 January 2014 10:47:04


For all of you suffering this wonderful, mild winter, you'll get your revenge in spring. I'll take a bet up now with anyone that winter will arrive in the shape of a cold and unsettled spring with talk of convective snow showers etc. you wait....

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


We will see about that! Mind you last year there was snow flurries even in April and on 2nd April we have snow falling. I remember between 20th March and begining of April we didn't get above 4c on some days.


I don't see how you consider this wonderful? When so many people and households have been under water, faced power cuts and floods etc...I think we want to see more sun and less rain mild - like it will be later today will only mean more rain. People are fedup with rain it's relentless day after day.


At least we save on heating bills and managed up to 30hours of dry weather... yesterday and earlier this morning!


 


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 



Ah yes, the predictable attempted guilt trip. "Don't enjoy the mild weather, think of the flooded victims" Change the record. Mind you this is a moaning thread, so there you go, I'm moaning. At you. Wink

I hate cold weather, always have. Hate rain as well, but unfortunately mild in winter usually means wet as well.

You're right about the fuel bills though. The heating has barely been on. Was on for an hour earlier to take the chill off what was probably the worst of the 3 frosts we've had this entire winter.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


But from what I remember Jan-March 2012 was actually milder than average and drier than average, so I guess we can have milder and drier winters. Winter 11/12 was one of them!?


 

Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


Matty H
21 January 2014 14:18:14
You certainly can have dry and mild weather for a sustained period in winter, and it's usually from a southerly draw. Given our weather prevails westerly, the outcome is far more often mild yet wet. In fact that's probably the most common weather in any winter here, although exceptionally so this winter so far.
Yate, Nr Bristol
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Saint Snow
21 January 2014 16:47:59

Today's Moan:


 


Why is the Azores High so bloody stubborn, barging out of the way any Atlantic Low that bumps into it, when any Arctic or Scandanavia gets bullied by the same Atlantic lows?


 


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Jiries
21 January 2014 17:07:49


Today's Moan:


 


Why is the Azores High so bloody stubborn, barging out of the way any Atlantic Low that bumps into it, when any Arctic or Scandanavia gets bullied by the same Atlantic lows?


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Not a problem over other countries where HP and LP move freely anywhere unlike the AZ always stuck in a very wrong place and send unwanted LP to UK instead of going to much needed place like Spain to Africa in winter months, that would benefit them much needed rain and much needed cold and snowy weather for us from northern flank of LP systems so that a win-win situation. 

Matty H
21 January 2014 17:20:38

Today's Moan:


 


Why is the Azores High so bloody stubborn, barging out of the way any Atlantic Low that bumps into it, when any Arctic or Scandanavia gets bullied by the same Atlantic lows?


 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



I'm sure your question was rhetorical, but none-the-less, it must be down to proximity. The Azores high has the jet stream zipping across the top of it, so the weather systems effectively just bounce across the top of it rather than hit it head-on such as the current block across the continent. The jetstream is the key factor I assume, and it's positioning
Yate, Nr Bristol
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Saint Snow
21 January 2014 17:33:41


Today's Moan:


 


Why is the Azores High so bloody stubborn, barging out of the way any Atlantic Low that bumps into it, when any Arctic or Scandanavia gets bullied by the same Atlantic lows?


 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



I'm sure your question was rhetorical, but none-the-less, it must be down to proximity. The Azores high has the jet stream zipping across the top of it, so the weather systems effectively just bounce across the top of it rather than hit it head-on such as the current block across the continent. The jetstream is the key factor I assume, and it's positioning

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Thanks, Prof. A had no idea you were so knowledgeable about the weather.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Jive Buddy
21 January 2014 17:33:45



Today's Moan:


 


Why is the Azores High so bloody stubborn, barging out of the way any Atlantic Low that bumps into it, when any Arctic or Scandanavia gets bullied by the same Atlantic lows?


 


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Not a problem over other countries where HP and LP move freely anywhere unlike the AZ always stuck in a very wrong place and send unwanted LP to UK instead of going to much needed place like Spain to Africa in winter months, that would benefit them much needed rain and much needed cold and snowy weather for us from northern flank of LP systems so that a win-win situation. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


But if it was stuck somewhere else, it wouldn't be an Azores High, would it?...


As for the unwanted LP to UK, yes I agree. It's because the UK is too soft! It lets as many LPs come to us as they want. Bring back the old Britain, where we had the best HP output in the world, even if it got a little dirty from time to time. Nowadays. HP can't get to work over us, because the LPs from the poles keep coming and taking all the pressure vacancies!



 

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