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Essan
12 February 2014 20:52:21


And not even a last hoorah for winter on the horizon (in terms of snow)


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



Not even a first hoorah for winter on the horizon (in terms of snow) 


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Osprey
12 February 2014 21:04:16


Can't be having this thread falling off p1!!



 


After realistically writing off our chances for a memorable and long 'catastrophic' snow event for another winter, the thought of 'just how flooded can we get??' was at least keeping interest.


Now it looks like the weather's going to calm down a bit - especially in the south. And not even a last hoorah for winter on the horizon (in terms of snow)


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I think/guessing (If thats allowed) that most are waiting to see what occurs next, around the middle of next week, so we can


moan at how pathetic the remaining winter weather is, if the storms and rains clear off and we have dry mild weather


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KevBrads1
14 February 2014 09:17:19
Looking at the latest charts, I think the Manchester Winter Index is going to return its lowest ever value.

Currently 7

1988-89 was 20, that is the current lowest.
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ARTzeman
14 February 2014 12:02:37

Wonder what the window cleaners  are doing....






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Andy Woodcock
14 February 2014 20:14:24
Yes, this really is the Winter from hell, as bad as previous mild winters were none have been as bad as this bast*rd.

Most very mild winters have at least one or two days with lying snow, not 2014

Most very mild winters have several spells of mild, southerly winds, not 2014

Most very mild winters have at least one frosty spell, not 2014

I have never known a winter so remarkably wet and windy with unrelenting poor conditions, give me an 88/89 or 74/75 winter any day.

This winter is the pits and has no place in the UK climate.

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14 February 2014 20:20:13

And it isn't very mild.


Saint Snow
14 February 2014 20:22:13

Yes, this really is the Winter from hell, as bad as previous mild winters were none have been as bad as this bast*rd. Most very mild winters have at least one or two days with lying snow, not 2014 Most very mild winters have several spells of mild, southerly winds, not 2014 Most very mild winters have at least one frosty spell, not 2014 I have never known a winter so remarkably wet and windy with unrelenting poor conditions, give me an 88/89 or 74/75 winter any day. This winter is the pits and has no place in the UK climate. Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


 


I've had many years with no snow lying IMBY. To be honest, like I've said previously, at least the storms have held my interest - far more than a mind-numbingly boring Bartlett winter.


 


I don't think this winter would rate in my 'worst ever 3'



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Essan
14 February 2014 20:22:38

Yes, this really is the Winter from hell, as bad as previous mild winters were none have been as bad as this bast*rd. Most very mild winters have at least one or two days with lying snow, not 2014 Most very mild winters have several spells of mild, southerly winds, not 2014 Most very mild winters have at least one frosty spell, not 2014 I have never known a winter so remarkably wet and windy with unrelenting poor conditions, give me an 88/89 or 74/75 winter any day. This winter is the pits and has no place in the UK climate. Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 



I think it's been he snowiest winter since anyone can remember:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2559628/Scottish-ski-resorts-snow-Sochi-skiiers-warned-AVALACHE-risk.html

Just depend on where you are


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Solar Cycles
14 February 2014 20:24:32

Yes, this really is the Winter from hell, as bad as previous mild winters were none have been as bad as this bast*rd. Most very mild winters have at least one or two days with lying snow, not 2014 Most very mild winters have several spells of mild, southerly winds, not 2014 Most very mild winters have at least one frosty spell, not 2014 I have never known a winter so remarkably wet and windy with unrelenting poor conditions, give me an 88/89 or 74/75 winter any day. This winter is the pits and has no place in the UK climate. Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 

I was wondering if my calander was correct, it says the 12th February but how can this be so, as I've only recorded 4 frosts a brief snow shower  and copius amounts of rain. 

Quantum
14 February 2014 22:53:10


Yes, this really is the Winter from hell, as bad as previous mild winters were none have been as bad as this bast*rd. Most very mild winters have at least one or two days with lying snow, not 2014 Most very mild winters have several spells of mild, southerly winds, not 2014 Most very mild winters have at least one frosty spell, not 2014 I have never known a winter so remarkably wet and windy with unrelenting poor conditions, give me an 88/89 or 74/75 winter any day. This winter is the pits and has no place in the UK climate. Andy

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

I was wondering if my calander was correct, it says the 12th February but how can this be so, as I've only recorded 4 frosts a brief snow shower  and copius amounts of rain. 


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


Winter hasn't even started; its not even march yet. 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
UncleGargy
14 February 2014 23:01:44
I reckon March will be winter!
KevBrads1
15 February 2014 07:50:24
It's hard to believe that a centre of high pressure last sat over some part of the British Isles was the start of December about 10 weeks ago. This winter must be up there with being one of the most cyclonic winters even seasons on record and there is no sign of high pressure having total control over our weather right to the end of the meteorological winter.

Last occasion I can recall such a cyclonic spell is autumn 2000.
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richardabdn
15 February 2014 09:43:26

I've known since early January that this winter would be a hopeless write-off but could never imagine it would turn out this bad. I thought we would at least see a brief snowy spell but the dross just goes on and on with 200mm of rain now racked up in just 4 weeks it just keeps getting worse and worse for wintry weather ore anything even remotely tolerable


Who on earth could believe that December would turn out the wintriest month but January and February have been so vile that the first week of December has had more frost hours and snow days than the rest of the winter combined


Absolutely disgraceful not to even manage a snowcover during winter 57degrees north. 1988/89 is the only other winter not to but it's understandable not to see much snow when it is exceptionally mild and dry. This winter there is barely a dry day, an extreme lack of mild yet still nothing


It hasn't even reached -3C - something even 1988/89 managed - and so far in February it's not got to -1C and there has been less than 10 hours of frost. Today is yet another digusting cold, grey windy day with the threat of rain after yet another large total yesterday. 


December was very dry for the first 3 weeks and even January had a 5-day dry spell. The relenteless low pressure this month beggars belief. Barometric pressure currently averaging only 979mb - more than 32mb below average and 11mb below February 1990 which had the lowest mean pressure in almost 150 years of records.


 


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17 February 2014 22:01:31


I've known since early January that this winter would be a hopeless write-off but could never imagine it would turn out this bad. I thought we would at least see a brief snowy spell but the dross just goes on and on with 200mm of rain now racked up in just 4 weeks it just keeps getting worse and worse for wintry weather ore anything even remotely tolerable


Who on earth could believe that December would turn out the wintriest month but January and February have been so vile that the first week of December has had more frost hours and snow days than the rest of the winter combined


Absolutely disgraceful not to even manage a snowcover during winter 57degrees north. 1988/89 is the only other winter not to but it's understandable not to see much snow when it is exceptionally mild and dry. This winter there is barely a dry day, an extreme lack of mild yet still nothing


It hasn't even reached -3C - something even 1988/89 managed - and so far in February it's not got to -1C and there has been less than 10 hours of frost. Today is yet another digusting cold, grey windy day with the threat of rain after yet another large total yesterday. 


December was very dry for the first 3 weeks and even January had a 5-day dry spell. The relenteless low pressure this month beggars belief. Barometric pressure currently averaging only 979mb - more than 32mb below average and 11mb below February 1990 which had the lowest mean pressure in almost 150 years of records.


 


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


 


A vintage winter then.........eh Rich? 

tallyho_83
18 February 2014 00:22:51

So far this winter is getting a mere 1/10 for me!! On the plus side at least we have seen hail! The coldest days were end of November into 1st Week of December but oh ! so frustrating! Winter didn't start until 21st December. Anyway, I am off to Las Vegas next week. A least it's sunny there. I can't take much more of this!


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Retron
18 February 2014 03:41:52


 Winter didn't start until 21st December.


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Winter didn't start at all here this year! There are no official definitions of the season in the UK btw.


Besides, the MetO definition and the traditional UK farming definition is the 1st December. Americans consider the solstice as the beginning of the season, but their climate is different from ours. Late February is closer to spring than winter IMO, it's damned hard to get decent snow by then around here and the sun starts to pack a punch - thus to imply it's still winter in mid-March down south is just daft!


 


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tallyho_83
18 February 2014 21:40:57
I have given up with this winter!!

I am looking forward till spring!

Not one easterly or northerly - we got a north westerly end Nov/beginning December. Only one morning of frost and -2c this year and this was in Jan. Coldest night was end of November and 1/2nd December at -2.5c.

Today it was 13.4c in the sun.

I am off to Las Vegas next week anyway!


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jamesthemonkeh
18 February 2014 21:43:40

I reckon March will be winter!

Originally Posted by: UncleGargy 


 


Nah.  April will be full of Northerleys :-)


howham
19 February 2014 13:15:57

Winter appears to be petering out in a cloudy wimper here.  It's not even been especially mild either.  I haven't recorded anything as high as 8C since December.

ARTzeman
19 February 2014 13:27:43

Seen comments on it being Forever Autumn...Might be right about that....


 






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19 February 2014 23:33:27
Bird watchers amongst you might be interested to know that a swallow in sussex is still going strong.... Flying around reed beds and obviously still finding enough insects.... Incredible really!!
Retron
20 February 2014 05:28:01

Bird watchers amongst you might be interested to know that a swallow in sussex is still going strong.... Flying around reed beds and obviously still finding enough insects.... Incredible really!!

Originally Posted by: chichesterweatherfan 


Not a case of "still" finding insects - this year's batch has already hatched.


There were swarms of little flies on the fields above the wolf centre on Sunday - more like what you'd expect in late March or April rather than mid-February. The complete lack of any cold weather so far will , if it continues, lead to a massive population of flying insects this spring - great if you're a bird, not so great if you're a human!


 


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vince
20 February 2014 11:12:32


Bird watchers amongst you might be interested to know that a swallow in sussex is still going strong.... Flying around reed beds and obviously still finding enough insects.... Incredible really!!

Originally Posted by: Retron 


Not a case of "still" finding insects - this year's batch has already hatched.


There were swarms of little flies on the fields above the wolf centre on Sunday - more like what you'd expect in late March or April rather than mid-February. The complete lack of any cold weather so far will , if it continues, lead to a massive population of flying insects this spring - great if you're a bird, not so great if you're a human!


 


Originally Posted by: chichesterweatherfan 


 


yes my fear a greenfly explosion , hopefully a ladybird explosion to eat the blighters .  I think its going to be a tough year in the garden :-(

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20 February 2014 12:00:57



Bird watchers amongst you might be interested to know that a swallow in sussex is still going strong.... Flying around reed beds and obviously still finding enough insects.... Incredible really!!

Originally Posted by: vince 


Not a case of "still" finding insects - this year's batch has already hatched.


There were swarms of little flies on the fields above the wolf centre on Sunday - more like what you'd expect in late March or April rather than mid-February. The complete lack of any cold weather so far will , if it continues, lead to a massive population of flying insects this spring - great if you're a bird, not so great if you're a human!


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


yes my fear a greenfly explosion , hopefully a ladybird explosion to eat the blighters .  I think its going to be a tough year in the garden :-(


Originally Posted by: chichesterweatherfan 


 


I am a garden designer, landscaper and gardener..and yes I agree with you it is going to be an horrendous year for gardening. I have worked on a few designs over the winter months and taken on part time work. I have not been able to start on anyone's garden because it has been so unremittingly WET!  It's a disaster. As I type it is grey wet and windy outside again!!


Absolutely sick to death of it to be honest  The word "relentless" does no justice to the crap we have endured this winter. It hasn't been particularly cold and it hasn't been particularly mild, but god damn it has been WET! Everywhere is saturated. Even here in the south east? We haven't seen one flake of snow!


I have mentioned before that we had to leave North Wales because I was losing so much work time due to bad weather and the constant grey, wet and windy climate was making me ill (physically and mentally). Kent is a temporary stopover for about three-four years, but I must admit I have been massively underwhelmed by the famed "south eastern continental climate"?


We have spent three winters here 2011-12, 2012-13 and 2013-14 and non have been very snowy, but at least the last three were on the cold and dry side (that's a continental climate isn't it?......hot summers & cold snowy/sunny winters).


Yes we had a half decent summer last year in the south east, but that seems like decades ago!! Summer 2012 was a pile of poo and 2011 was just average. It really does seem that these green islands suffer from far more bad weather than benign weather?


This is the very worst winter I have ever experienced in my 46 years and I really just want spring to arrive early now! 20 degrees, blue skies and NO RAIN!!


 


 


 


 

Saint Snow
20 February 2014 12:25:22

Everywhere is saturated. Even here in the south east?


Originally Posted by: Snowjoke 


 


I appreciate it's no consolation, but much of NW England (especially the SW'ern half) has, so far this winter, had no more than average rainfall (slightly below ave Dec, slightly above ave Jan). In fact, Liverpool has had below average rainfall for both Dec and Jan (and, so far, Feb)


 



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