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Caz
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10 January 2015 18:47:34

January is so far shaping up to be typical of recent years - pretty dull most of the time but with spells of very strong wind.  It's my birthday month and I always wish for snow on my birthday and almost every year I get rain. 


This year, I'm not wishing for snow because I'm going away.   I'm flying out from Gatwick on 21st and would rather not have any delays, so sod's law says it will snow. 


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richardabdn
11 January 2015 10:11:32

It's seems no matter how awful December is these days January is guaranteed to be even worse.


Just one pathetic frost so far this month that lasted only 3 hours. Even by this stage of last January there had been three


This current cold spell is utterly revolting. Yesterday a hideously unpleasant windy day that was unbearable to be out in. A useless spell of snow that failed to stick and now it's bone dry again. Challenging 1988/89 for lack of precipitation of any sort.


Temperatures stuck around 2C all day yet still it got nowhere near freezing last night. Min of 0.8C. Lamentable for a so called cold spell approaching mid-January. Would rather have mild weather than this. It got closer to freezing on 30th December from a max of 9C


Don't bother to look through all the model output now. Just check this http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec4.html and clear to see from the precipitation distribution it's yet another week of mind-numbing zonal dross coming up. Just when will this end? The first map on that link has looked the same all winter 


 


 


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tallyho_83
11 January 2015 11:41:51


It's seems no matter how awful December is these days January is guaranteed to be even worse.


Just one pathetic frost so far this month that lasted only 3 hours. Even by this stage of last January there had been three


This current cold spell is utterly revolting. Yesterday a hideously unpleasant windy day that was unbearable to be out in. A useless spell of snow that failed to stick and now it's bone dry again. Challenging 1988/89 for lack of precipitation of any sort.


Temperatures stuck around 2C all day yet still it got nowhere near freezing last night. Min of 0.8C. Lamentable for a so called cold spell approaching mid-January. Would rather have mild weather than this. It got closer to freezing on 30th December from a max of 9C


Don't bother to look through all the model output now. Just check this http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec4.html and clear to see from the precipitation distribution it's yet another week of mind-numbing zonal dross coming up. Just when will this end? The first map on that link has looked the same all winter 


 


 


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


 


I saw Scotland - the whole of it virtually covered in snow showers today!?


Not even a snow shower or flurry in Abderdeen?


 


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nsrobins
11 January 2015 11:41:57


 Would rather have mild weather than this.


 


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


But if it was mild Richard we wouldn't hear from you at all

You are the king of complaint


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doctormog
11 January 2015 13:04:44


 


 


I saw Scotland - the whole of it virtually covered in snow showers today!?


Not even a snow shower or flurry in Abderdeen?


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Not today, but then again no snow was or is forecast for here today. We are a very sheltered from precipitation in a westerly flow. I was actually susprised to see snow showers  on and off for a couple of hours yesterday.


As for December here, it was significantly drier than normal with significantly more sunshine than average too. OK, it was not overly wintry but it was generally a very good month. Often dry bright and sunny and much better than the previous two months.


sizzle
11 January 2015 13:11:12

I might see some snow showers this Tuesday, tho I think it wont be till feb or late feb that will will see some snow in my neck of the woods, if not then im going to stick my two fingers up at this winter and wait for next winter. have to wait and see we are only half way thru winter anyway, so far its been PANTS,

ghawes
11 January 2015 13:41:27


As for December here, it was significantly drier than normal with significantly more sunshine than average too. OK, it was not overly wintry but it was generally a very good month. Often dry bright and sunny and much better than the previous two months.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Absolutely, Michael, December was a great month for the East Coast of Scotland. Dry, sunny with plenty of very pleasant days. To be honest I'd take that all winter!


I really do need to master this moaning lark. ;-)


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picturesareme
11 January 2015 14:05:30
Spring is on the horizon - just 31 days away now.

I've pretty much given up on a decent snowfall down here this winter. Might see a spring flurry or 2, but by then it's pointless.

I wouldn't want to bet against some back edge snow in the coming month... however that kind of snow is always a load of slushy cra@p - not snowball stuff and freezes into solid ice.
ARTzeman
11 January 2015 14:17:24

2-5cm Late Tuesday night  according to a post by Mr Ian Fergusson.. So no moaning from me if it happens... For this area...






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David M Porter
11 January 2015 16:19:46


 


Not today, but then again no snow was or is forecast for here today. We are a very sheltered from precipitation in a westerly flow. I was actually susprised to see snow showers  on and off for a couple of hours yesterday.


As for December here, it was significantly drier than normal with significantly more sunshine than average too. OK, it was not overly wintry but it was generally a very good month. Often dry bright and sunny and much better than the previous two months.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


It seems to me Michael that the weather is Richard's part of Aberdeen must more often than not be completely different to the area of the city that you reside in!


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doctormog
11 January 2015 16:26:55

Spring is on the horizon - just 31 days away now.

I've pretty much given up on a decent snowfall down here this winter. Might see a spring flurry or 2, but by then it's pointless.

I wouldn't want to bet against some back edge snow in the coming month... however that kind of snow is always a load of slushy cra@p - not snowball stuff and freezes into solid ice.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Perhaps I am being daft but where 31 days until spring thing come from? The last time I checked we were still in the first half of winter?  (And that is irrespective if you use the astronomical or meteorological definition for the seasons)


edit: David, Richard has own personal little angry cloud over his head that follows him wherever he goes 


Caz
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11 January 2015 17:04:27


January is so far shaping up to be typical of recent years - pretty dull most of the time but with spells of very strong wind.  It's my birthday month and I always wish for snow on my birthday and almost every year I get rain. 


This year, I'm not wishing for snow because I'm going away.   I'm flying out from Gatwick on 21st and would rather not have any delays, so sod's law says it will snow. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 

  This really is sad!  I'm even quoting myself now! 


The output is not looking like it's going my way at all this year.  OK, it's 10 days away but it's still a threat and driving from Nottinghamshire to Gatwick in the middle of the night might not be a good idea.  A drive down during the day on the 20th and a hotel stay might be a better option, just to be sure we're there in time to check in.  Though there's nothing we can do about flight delays due to snow. 


I can honestly say this is the first time in my life I've felt negatively about the prospects of snow. 


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ARTzeman
11 January 2015 17:18:50

Ice/SNOW warnings will be issued tomorrow morning.. This ensures continuity of present warnings. Posted By Mr Ian Fergusson on S.W region on the other side... (N-W)  






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Jive Buddy
11 January 2015 17:19:36


  This really is sad!  I'm even quoting myself now! 


The output is not looking like it's going my way at all this year.  OK, it's 10 days away but it's still a threat and driving from Nottinghamshire to Gatwick in the middle of the night might not be a good idea.  A drive down during the day on the 20th and a hotel stay might be a better option, just to be sure we're there in time to check in.  Though there's nothing we can do about flight delays due to snow. 


I can honestly say this is the first time in my life I've felt negatively about the prospects of snow. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Heh, I know what you mean Caz. Back in 2004, I was due to fly to Miami with my beautiful girlfriend, to start our Caribbean "Jive n Cruise". We were due to fly out from Heathrow on Sat 31st Jan, but a few days earlier on Wed 28th, came that infamous thunder snow event. Part of me was watching it in awe, the other in absolute fear!. So I booked us into a hotel at Heathrow, to make damn sure we were at the airport in good time....and I only lived down the road in Chertsey!


I gave up smoking on the morning of the flight - remember so vividly to this day, standing in the frozen solid hotel car park, freezing my nuts off, to have my last ever ciggie. Twenty four hours later, we were basking in the 80+F sunshine in Miami. Two weather blisses (blissi?) at opposite ends of the thermometer...happy days  - 


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picturesareme
11 January 2015 19:02:33


 


Perhaps I am being daft but where 31 days until spring thing come from? The last time I checked we were still in the first half of winter?  (And that is irrespective if you use the astronomical or meteorological definition for the seasons)


edit: David, Richard has own personal little angry cloud over his head that follows him wherever he goes 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


Irrespective of astro/meteorological definitions come the second week of February the sun really starts to feel spring like down here.


Using latitude difference between our locations then there is huge difference in potential solar energy as we approach mid February... food for thought here the latitudinal difference between us is the same for me and Bilbao  Also i'm at sea level 


 


 

Caz
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11 January 2015 20:51:17


Heh, I know what you mean Caz. Back in 2004, I was due to fly to Miami with my beautiful girlfriend, to start our Caribbean "Jive n Cruise". We were due to fly out from Heathrow on Sat 31st Jan, but a few days earlier on Wed 28th, came that infamous thunder snow event. Part of me was watching it in awe, the other in absolute fear!. So I booked us into a hotel at Heathrow, to make damn sure we were at the airport in good time....and I only lived down the road in Chertsey!


I gave up smoking on the morning of the flight - remember so vividly to this day, standing in the frozen solid hotel car park, freezing my nuts off, to have my last ever ciggie. Twenty four hours later, we were basking in the 80+F sunshine in Miami. Two weather blisses (blissi?) at opposite ends of the thermometer...happy days  - 


Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 

As much as I love snow and always wish for it for my birthday, this year is a milestone birthday, so I chose a couple of quiet weeks with hubby in the Caribbean sunshine to avoid any surprises my family want to spring.  It's also our 30th wedding anniversary while we're there, so that's two surprise parties they don't have to organise. 


For the next ten days, I'll be watching the forecast with great interest and ever decreasing finger nails! 


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Solar Cycles
12 January 2015 12:09:20

Oh dear tonights snow event looks more than likely to miss our little neck of the woods which considering we never miss any of the rain bearing fronts from the SW/W/NW is amazing. Another forgetful winter too add to the list of many over the years, where's my passport.

Patrick01
12 January 2015 12:11:05

Another way of looking at the main problem this winter:


The rainfall anomaly for Ponta Delgada in the Azores was roughly 8% of average in December 2014 and remains below average at a similar level so far in January. In December 2010 the rainfall anomaly was 212%! 


I can't see anything significant changing until that massive high shifts - it's strength and position is the one constant through most of the winter so far and apart from some brief forays east and west over the current model outputs it seems quite happy where it is for the time being. 

Saint Snow
12 January 2015 12:17:39


Oh dear tonights snow event looks more than likely to miss our little neck of the woods which considering we never miss any of the rain bearing fronts from the SW/W/NW is amazing. Another forgetful winter too add to the list of many over the years, where's my passport.


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 



Absolutely bucketing down with rain here overnight,and low and behold the precip will vanish into thin air when the uppers  allow for snow through this week.


Just watched the BBC week ahead and suffice to say co ck all here apart from wind and rain.


Roll on spring..


Originally Posted by: Albert Steptoe 


 


Looks like us and probably a few other NW'ers will be taking up residence in this thread tomorrow evening



 


 


 



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Essan
12 January 2015 12:48:38



I wouldn't want to bet against some back edge snow in the coming month... however that kind of snow is always a load of slushy cra@p - not snowball stuff and freezes into solid ice.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 



Not if the temp barely even drops below zero it doesn't - it's just melts away.  As was the case here in the winter/spring 2013 slushfest.


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ARTzeman
12 January 2015 12:56:46

GLAD TO SEE MET OFFICE WEATHER WARNINS NOW SHOW A WARNING FOR THE IMPENDING   SNOW....






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picturesareme
12 January 2015 13:05:01




Not if the temp barely even drops below zero it doesn't - it's just melts away.  As was the case here in the winter/spring 2013 slushfest.


Originally Posted by: Essan 


 


ah yes there is that too... That is actually the more common thing for back edge snowfall to do down here. 


:-(

Andy Woodcock
12 January 2015 21:48:29

We are in an extending period of cold zonality and this situation should be a dream in Cumbria as we are far enough north and exposed to the westerly wind. Such situations even in the recent past has brought plenty of snow even in non winter months.


But that was until 2015 which so so far yielded 3 snow showers and a 1cms cover that lasted two hours! And to rub salt into the wound tomorrow looks like being snowier in the Midlands!!


Someone is having a laugh but I don't think it's funny.


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Saint Snow
12 January 2015 21:55:14


We are in an extending period of cold zonality and this situation should be a dream in Cumbria as we are far enough north and exposed to the westerly wind. Such situations even in the recent past has brought plenty of snow even in non winter months.


But that was until 2015 which so so far yielded 3 snow showers and a 1cms cover that lasted two hours! And to rub salt into the wound tomorrow looks like being snowier in the Midlands!!


Someone is having a laugh but I don't think it's funny.


Andy


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


 


Hey, at least it's showing Cumbria to get some snow - it misses us out completely before reorganising over the sodding Midlands



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Solar Cycles
12 January 2015 23:09:18


 


 


Hey, at least it's showing Cumbria to get some snow - it misses us out completely before reorganising over the sodding Midlands


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Yeah it's looking like we'll both be here by the end of tomorrow, ironic when you've snow to the North, East, South and West.😭

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