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Saint Snow
07 May 2015 21:29:06

Going to be a long night; I need something big & herbal to help me through it. See ya later, chaps.



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Maunder Minimum
07 May 2015 21:31:09


 


 


Yep - Exit polls seem to be getting more accurate. Telephone polls are never anywhere near as accurate.


 


I said I thought the exit poll would be bang on the money and I stand by it despite MM's skepticism!


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


If the exit poll is correct and the online polls are wrong, then that suggests the methodology of the online pollsters is invalid.


But that post mortem can wait until the actual, real results are in. I think the exit poll is likely to be out by a factor of 10%, but that would still leave Cameron in Number Ten.


New world order coming.
Devonian
07 May 2015 21:33:34

Feels like 1992 to me. I'd be surprised if the exit poll is much wrong.


But, despite the talk of a 'win' the majority for any coalition isn't there this time, the Conservatives, instead of 58 LD's propping them up, might have 10 LDs (will they have the stomach?) and a few bowler hatters.


Does not as stable as the last five years to me. if I were a Conservative I'd be hoping the exit poll is wrong and the LDs have more seats...


 

David M Porter
07 May 2015 21:33:56


I've absolutely no love for Labour, but I despise pretty much everything that the Tories stand for.


The 'haves' to get more, the 'have-nots' to get less sums it up. I f*cking hate this country.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I share your sentiments in many ways, Saint.


In my opinion, it has been what you mention in your second line above that has led to the rise of the SNP in recent years up here. Many Scots who in the past always voted Labour religiously no matter what now see them as being little, if at all, different from the Tories. The Lib Dems had been a fairly prominent voice here for a while, but the last 5 years has damaged their standing in Scotland severely, and they didn't do any better than Labour did in the last Scottish Parliament election in 2011.


Personally I'm hoping that the SNP get as many seats as possible tonight and Alex Salmond is elected to what has until now been Sir Malcolm Bruce's constituency, because Scotland will need to have a strong and clear voice at Westminster regardless of what happens tonight, but especially so if Dave & co get back in.


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Maunder Minimum
07 May 2015 21:38:45

Just listening to BBC Radio 4 online and if the exit poll is correct, it would appear to be that UKIP voters in some marginals have seen the light and backed the Conservatives at the last minute.


New world order coming.
Caz
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07 May 2015 21:41:31

It's not necessarily that the polls were wrong because if 25% of people were undecided this morning, then it's likely a lot have changed their minds over the past month or so.  The exit polls were fairly accurate at the last election but are not necessarily so this time, although I have a feeling they will be.  


The exit polls don't surprise me as I wasn't sure which way to vote and finally jumped to the other side, which other people I know have also done. 


 


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xioni2
07 May 2015 21:43:04

The exit poll should be much closer than the polls.


If the polls were so wrong though, what's the point of having so many cheap polls, it's worse than noise!


Something else that might have happened is that many more UKIP likely voters got scared at the last minute and voted Con.


 

warrenb
07 May 2015 21:43:22
In fact YouGov did not conduct an exit poll, it was a recontact poll, which made them to decide not the change their numbers from yesterday
Justin W
07 May 2015 21:43:41

Extraordinary rumours swirling - most incredible is that Tories think they might have got Balls in Morley and Outwood. Surely not.



@SamFR


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Devonian
07 May 2015 21:45:38


The exit poll should be much closer than the polls.


If the polls were so wrong though, what's the point of having so many cheap polls, it's worse than noise!


Something else that might have happened is that many more UKIP likely voters got scared at the last minute and voted Con.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Yup, if the exit poll is right the pollster will do well to get credibility back again...


Anyway, for all the talk of the Scots running the place lets prepare ourselves for Peter Robinson being in the cabinet

Matty H
07 May 2015 21:45:41


Just listening to BBC Radio 4 online and if the exit poll is correct, it would appear to be that UKIP voters in some marginals have seen the light and backed the Conservatives at the last minute.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Was always likely in my opinion. 


12 months ago I fully intended to vote UKIP; I haven't, I've voted Tory again. 


Fantastic exit poll, but it flies totally in the face of virtually every other poll during this campaign, so I'm sceptical, but this is a large poll, and it is people who have voted. 


Maunder Minimum
07 May 2015 21:45:44



Extraordinary rumours swirling - most incredible is that Tories think they might have got Balls in Morley and Outwood. Surely not.



@SamFR


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


That would be just amazing. Plus I hope Wee Dougie has been defenestrated.


As Warren posted above, the YouGov poll was simply a reconnect to previous pollsters to check they voted the way they said they intended to.


[Edit] listening to Radio 4 online - the BBC are wetting themselves trying to talk up the Labour prospects, it is so funny. Why don't they just calm down and wait for the actual results?


New world order coming.
Matty H
07 May 2015 21:46:56



Extraordinary rumours swirling - most incredible is that Tories think they might have got Balls in Morley and Outwood. Surely not.



@SamFR


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Now THAT would be an earthquake. As the piece ends, though - surely not. 


Charmhills
07 May 2015 21:50:28

I take it Own Jones will do the decent thing and gas himself by morning!


As for the Brand effect........................


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Maunder Minimum
07 May 2015 21:51:38

Sunderland South:


UKIP 8280


Cons: 7105


LD: 791


Labour 21218


Green 1095


 


Matches exit poll apparently.


New world order coming.
NeilM
07 May 2015 21:51:42



Extraordinary rumours swirling - most incredible is that Tories think they might have got Balls in Morley and Outwood. Surely not.



@SamFR


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


That would cheer me up no end if he did get thrown out, but IIRC there were similar rumours in 2010 and he still got in.


On the Exit Poll, what a shocker for the Lib Dems, I really don't think it will be quite that bad for them (I hope).


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Devonian
07 May 2015 21:52:40

Well, I dunno, that doesn't look like a bad result for Labour in Sunderland S and a big ukip vote...

Caz
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07 May 2015 21:54:29

The £ has shot up since the exit poll results were announced, so the rest of the world seem to want a Tory win.


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NeilM
07 May 2015 21:54:45


Well, I dunno, that doesn't look like a bad result for Labour in Sunderland S and a big ukip vote...


Originally Posted by: Devonian 


Yeah, but it is Sunderland, a Parrot with a red rosette would get elected.


The increase of 18% for UKIP and the massive fall of 11% in LD vote is the biggest news.


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Justin W
07 May 2015 21:54:49


Well, I dunno, that doesn't look like a bad result for Labour in Sunderland S and a big ukip vote...


Originally Posted by: Devonian 


 


Swing to UKIP of 7%.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Matty H
07 May 2015 21:55:20


Well, I dunno, that doesn't look like a bad result for Labour in Sunderland S and a big ukip vote...


Originally Posted by: Devonian 


its just an expected Labour figure. The news is UKIP


Maunder Minimum
07 May 2015 21:55:39


Well, I dunno, that doesn't look like a bad result for Labour in Sunderland S and a big ukip vote...


Originally Posted by: Devonian 


Matches exit poll apparently for that constituency.


New world order coming.
springsunshine
07 May 2015 21:55:44


 


Now THAT would be an earthquake. As the piece ends, though - surely not. 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


We can only hope


If this turns out as per the exit poll I fully expect Milliband to be thrown to the wolfs.


I have switched off the BBC as their pathetic left wing pro labour bias is sickening.

Justin W
07 May 2015 21:55:50

And it looks like it is early confirmation of the exit poll according to Curtice.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
SEMerc
07 May 2015 21:55:52



Extraordinary rumours swirling - most incredible is that Tories think they might have got Balls in Morley and Outwood. Surely not.



@SamFR


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Oh that would make my evening.

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