It's been a very good May and June here as well and the outlook is pretty good. Plenty of beach days already which is always a reliable indicator.

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I agree. I think inland showers have been a issue in some parts. But here in Wirral and indeed most of Northwest England and Northern England its been a decent start to Summer. All my veg have pretty much gone to fruit now. Ive been picking strawberrys since two weeks ago. Courgettes have been producing since May, and Tomatos have all flowered and currently green awaiting them to start turning. Carrots, peas and beans are all being harvested as we speak.

I cant remember a start to summer like it. Also - a noticeable lack of slugs, such has been the dry / Warm period we have been in.

Agreed the southeast of the country hasnt done to well, but just because it doesnt, doesnt mean the Summer has been rubbish so far. Infact - what the SE have had, is what most of the rest of the country usually gets in a normal summer.

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That's odd, because it's felt like sunnier than normal.

Then again, in an easterly, Hawarden is the windward side of the N Wales mountains, so perhaps they've had more cloud.

Or maybe, it's because the sunshine has happened during waking hours. I think it was SuperCell who first talked about how he'd noticed an increasing trend during the 'awful summer years' whereby skies would be cloudless at sunrise, but cloud would bubble up/move in from mid-/late-morning and by early afternoon it'd be grey. There'd be a good 6/7 hours of sunshine during the day, but only 2/3 hours of 'useable' sunshine. This was a phenomenon that only seemed to plague the northern half of the UK (well, from N Wales - S Yorks northwards). Probably as the predominant set-up had westerlies feeding unstable air in, from that line northwards.

We've certainly not had that situation this June in the Liverpool-Manchester area at least (and, from what I've been told, in places like Blackpool & Cumbria, too), where the sun's tended to last most of the day when it's been sunny

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How helpful!

So far Matt has been near spot on IMO.

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I seem to recall that back in January of this year, he sounded fairly optimistic about the chances of a sustained period of colder weather towards the end of the winter in contrast to the mild and wet pattern that had dominated much of it. While it was a little drier and colder at the tail end of winter, there was no wintry spell.

I very much agree with what Matty H used to say about LRFs when he was posting here; they are more often than not next door to useless.

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Wrt the comment I have bolded, you sound as though we have skipped forward three months or so and we are now officially into autumn!

I only wonder how far in advance the record hot spell of early August 2003 was first picked up by the forecasters. The last fortnight or so of that July was dominated by a unsettled westerly pattern I seem to remember and there was precious little indication then of what was to develop at the start of August.

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The June and July of that year were both warmer than average though. June was very warm even.

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Is this meant to be the model output thread? Reads like the moaning and gloating thread!

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I remember June 1987, now that was a stinker of a summer month.

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I said SUMMER will end up cooler than average. Not just June. This summer will be a write off

 

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Please stay on topic. Further off-topic posts not directly related to current model output will be deleted without warning.

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OK. Bloody awful ECM 12z it has to be said. Cool and wet sums it up. Dreadful charts again tonight for the height of summer.

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Difficult to disagree with this. ECM looks cool with temps in the high teens at best for southern areas next week with plenty of rain or showers around. On the plus side it will feel fresher for those who like that sort of thing, and for those in the far south it won't eel all that bad in between the showers.

That said, we'd hope for better at the height of summer, especially given the heat over the near continent!  You never know, we might squeeze a bit of heat in come July! 

Got caught in a downpour of biblical proportions on my way home from work today. My mobile phone has had it.

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I suspect it'd feel quite nice here on the ECM, depending on rainfall amounts - some dry days and some wetter days and I'm pretty sure we'd get better than high teens from it. We're at that time of year where any sunny days are likely to break 20c imby.

GFS Op hints at another plume hitting us right at the end of it's run - ok FI so won't be there on the 18z but given the set up I'd go with some kind of plume hitting us being more likely than not. With LP's wandering around to the North and HP over the near continent with a fair bit of heat it doesn't take much to drag some hot air over parts of the south at least. As I don't like heat but will live with it if we get some decent storms I'll take that if it does happen

 

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Could be better this way to be awful now but by next week we will get high 20's or low 30's temps as today was the worst day for many with inches of rain, cool and dull weather..  NO model showing this awful set-up this week as last week they were showing HP over us, settled, warm to hot days.  It changed on the day ahead every day and bottomed out today as the worst one so cannot get any worse than that. 

beautiful morning here in essex better than yesterday. the sun is out and we are OUT !!!! happy independance day

weatherwise and politically very changeable outlook indeed ...sadly I think Britain is literally to watered down now to be truly the Britain it was 40 years ago, so a turbulent period of weather and many other things in the coming weeks and months. 

cameron resigns he oviously did not like the weather today lol

This is the model output thread!
I'm up in NW Scotland for the next 10 days as the big 3 (MetO ECM and GFS) show a default pattern with Low after Low moving NE across me!
The Azores High influences the south from time to time.

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Oh heck the outlook looks depressingly familiar to previous summers and with our annual family camping trip weeks away I'm praying for some dry weather at least 🙁

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