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idj20
24 January 2017 13:46:12

Not a moan from me on this occasion.

At 7.4 C under near unbroken sunshine and calm winds in the early part of this afternoon, it is feeling and looking positively spring-like here at Folkestone. Quite reminiscent of '88 & '89.

I really hope this high pressure set up does put up a fight for as long as it possibly can. The Atlantic crap can stay put right where it belong . . . over the Atlantic.


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Chunky Pea
24 January 2017 14:20:16

After a few, dry and at times, sunny days, it is back to the dank, damp, low stratus fest with spits of pointless drizzle. Summer 2016 continues unabated.


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Smurf
25 January 2017 08:30:07

We never learn. Last night it was exiting on the model thread. Something cold on the horizon. But the MET were not mentioning it. So, unless they get exited about something, then we shouldn't either.


Such a disapointment again this morning. Better get used to rain. There will be plenty of it!

Bolty
25 January 2017 10:12:08
Thursday is going to be an utterly repulsive day by the looks of it. The BBC are going for high of 0C here and a fairly blustery wind... and absolutely abhorrent combination.
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Russwirral
25 January 2017 14:01:30
Im hedging my bets on a lot of wet drizzle tomorrow. with everyone else at least seeing a flurry.


This has been the story for this winter for MBY.
richardabdn
25 January 2017 20:12:55

Another step closer to the mildest and most frost-free winter on record with another ridiculously mild min of 7.8C last night. We have now completed a full two months of this mind-numbing mild and frost-free anticyclonic zonal write-off dross 

Lost count of the number of mins 5C or more above average this winter. The number 5C or below average is easy to track though because it’s a big fat zero with nothing lower than a truly pathetic -2.3C. It’s over four years since it last got to -5C (16/1/13)

Not even had any days this winter with a sub-zero mean or a sub-2C max and still only six frosts. 1988/89 managed 10 at Dyce and 15 at Craibstone so this horror show is on track to even beat that with run after run of model output showing total write-off conditions up to 384 hours. Absolutely nothing of interest at all in a winter so dire and beyond boring that even clear skies and light winds don’t produce frost. Makes the last few write-offs seem like proper winters by comparison.

Over the last six years winter has developed into an utterly wretched season of relentless soul destroying torture. A dark, depressing and dismal season devoid of any weather interest and the only thing to look forward to, during its three month duration, is it coming to an end


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Zubzero
26 January 2017 08:44:13

Today could be the coldest day I see for a very long time, the models after today are shocking for cold 


Still no sign off snow at all the wait goes on and on and on....... 

Solar Cycles
26 January 2017 08:54:35


Today could be the coldest day I see for a very long time, the models after today are shocking for cold 


Still no sign off snow at all the wait goes on and on and on....... 


Originally Posted by: Zubzero 

Coldest day here being forecast since December 2010..........  Personally I think that's it for any sub zero maximums for this winter and  possibly anything remotely wintry.

Zubzero
26 January 2017 09:09:42


Coldest day here being forecast since December 2010..........  Personally I think that's it for any sub zero maximums for this winter and  possibly anything remotely wintry.


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


It's been a half decent winter for frost and fog, compared to the last 2 winters it's been great. 


But been so long since a fall of snow i've forgot what it looks like. Id not be surprised to see it settle down again in a few weeks time, but the same as all Winter has been, with any deep cold and snow way of to the East.

Justin W
26 January 2017 09:16:15

This winter has been a substantial improvement on the previous four or five, IMO, with a remarkable run of air frosts and low DPs here in the far SE. While I still believe that a significant cold outbreak is likely over the next three weeks, if we were to be back in zonal mild crud through to mid March, I wouldn't be too disappointed with winter 2016/17 even if we only saw one snowfall (patches of which are still lying here, btw).


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Solar Cycles
26 January 2017 10:31:08
Up here it's been obviously drier than the previous five winters but we've seen little frosts with maximum and minimas both above freezing for large chunks of the winter thus far. All in all a forgettable winter really.
richardabdn
26 January 2017 20:56:19

Yet another story of record breaking snowfalls while we suffer from record breaking tedium. This time in California:


http://sf.curbed.com/2017/1/25/14384962/california-snow-lake-tahoe-ski 


http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/6583149-181/23-feet-of-snow-at?artslide=0


Absolutely sickening when compared to the utter crap we have had to endure here all winter long with today one of the worst days. Dank, grey frost-free grot with the temperature stuck between 3 and 5C and an utterly putrid raw, cold wind making it feel thoroughly unpleasant. Still a tedious 3C at the moment under overcast murk 


 


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Bolty
27 January 2017 13:10:45
I'm looking forward to this upcoming spell of more active weather as we move into February. I'm bored of all this high pressure nothingness now, to be honest (quite surprised I'd say that). At least this spell will give something a lot more interesting than this spell has.
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Jiries
27 January 2017 13:21:57


Yet another story of record breaking snowfalls while we suffer from record breaking tedium. This time in California:


http://sf.curbed.com/2017/1/25/14384962/california-snow-lake-tahoe-ski 


http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/6583149-181/23-feet-of-snow-at?artslide=0


Absolutely sickening when compared to the utter crap we have had to endure here all winter long with today one of the worst days. Dank, grey frost-free grot with the temperature stuck between 3 and 5C and an utterly putrid raw, cold wind making it feel thoroughly unpleasant. Still a tedious 3C at the moment under overcast murk 


 


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


Very cold air had arrived over Cyprus right now and it 4C only in Nicosia at 2.50pm so maybe snowfall later. It was 9C just after midnight so not sure what they will put down the max today.  Just like us yesterday but still they perform very well on getting massive temps drop from the 15-16C average in Jan, against the warm med temps, island far much smaller than here or Ireland.  


I never believe the ocean is the one that stopping us from extreme temps, is the pressure pattern set-up that are refusing to allow us to get very low temps in winter or high temps in summer.  Look at the deep cold in Europe that cannot reach here due to HP blocking it, not the sea temps because yesterday when HP moved a little away it brought subzero temps easily here.

richardabdn
27 January 2017 18:37:00

Absolutely awful winter beyond comprehension. Living here and being interested in weather is akin to living in the Netherlands and being interested in mountaineering or living in Bhutan and being interested in yachting. Just a sick joke

The last couple of days the rest of Eastern Scotland has got down to -4C whereas here the nightmare of never ending mild dross just goes on and on with no lower than 1.8C. Just depressing grey crap. The Scilly Isles must be the only other place above 45 degrees north, besides here, to have had no frost in the past week


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27 January 2017 21:44:35

Minus three overnight and didn't get above freezing all day. Then the temp rose this evening and we now have cold rain!!


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Jiries
27 January 2017 22:55:59


Minus three overnight and didn't get above freezing all day. Then the temp rose this evening and we now have cold rain!!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Opposite for Cyprus today as they had heavy snowfall in lowlands areas, not in Nicosia I think but almost hit there.  They managed to get heavy snow at 3-4C temps even on the coasts was very cold against the 17C sea temps.


It show how real cold should hit if happen here say London is 8C the average then a cold air arrive sent the temps down to -2 to -5C quickly with heavy snow.  Not like last 2 weeks ago when temps only a fraction drop from 10C to 4-6C with poxy weak snowfall compare what I saw on the Cyprus News TV tonight.


Definitely NO WAY will invest a weather station in this country ever again with the stupid behaviour of temps that refused to drop when a cold air arrive every time.  Been 5 years now I stopped and only come back during heatwaves days only.  I still have the data from 1990 to 2012, then full month of July 2013, 2014 and few days in 2015 and 2016 since it only few days hot spell.

tallyho_83
27 January 2017 23:16:41


Minus three overnight and didn't get above freezing all day. Then the temp rose this evening and we now have cold rain!!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I guess if this cold spell had broken down with a good snow storm or snow to rain event then it would have cheered many up or perhaps would have done, however the fact it's cold rain and there is nothing cold for the next week to 10 days it was a disappointment yet again.


I will give this 1/10  - and only 1 because there was frost. Just shame there wasn't a flake of snow to go with it. NOT here anyway.


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richardabdn
28 January 2017 11:31:06

It just gets worse and worse with this current spell of utterly putrid gloom. 3 days now of grey skies with the temperature stuck between 2 and 5C. Almost no deviation from 4C for 20 hours and constant drizzle that is making today a complete write-off despite the total unlikely to exceed much more than 1mm. Just typical of this cancerous winter


Not a single colder than average week so far this winter and even in 13/14 there was one due to the first week of Dec being marginally cooler than average.


1 -7 Dec: 5.3 (+1.0)


8-14 Dec: 6.8 (+3.0)


15-21 Dec: 6.1 (+2.8)


22-28 Dec: 4.3 (+1.5)


29 Dec - 4 Jan: 5.7 (+2.7)


5-11 Jan: 4.6 (+1.3)


12-18 Jan: 4.2 (+0.7)


19-25 Jan: 4.1 (+0.5)


The most consistently mild, frost-free, boring and non-wintry winter since 1988/89 


 


 


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bluetriangle
28 January 2017 14:49:10

This is more a moan about the Met Office than the weather. Yesterday morning it was -7C at Edinburgh Airport and -6C in my back garden in Livingston, but the weather forecast charts on the BBCs Breakfast show had the central belt at 0C. The night before they had forecast +2C for Edinburgh when it was already well below zero outside. There is a huge difference in conditions between zero and -7C and people here watching the weather would have been given the wrong impression about conditions outside. The point of a weather forecast is to assist us in planning our day, preparing for adverse conditions, etc. That's what the Met Office are paid to do.


I know frost can be difficult to forecast, but even the day before temperatures here were already well below zero when they were predicting a frost-free night. Well over a million people live in the central belt of Scotland and they deserve a better service than that, especially when there is no forecasting involved in letting morning viewers know what the weather is like at that time. I've seen this from them many times in the past. Are they incompetent, or simply unable to admit to error?


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Romfordman
30 January 2017 10:15:03

Seemingly endless days of cold, alright not really cold, but cold enough for snow.


Do we get any, NO, except for some measly slushy bit briefly at the start.


One day of warmer temperatures and we promptly get 10 hours of rain 


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ARTzeman
30 January 2017 13:16:37

Fog and drizzle to contend with when going out for a walk.... Glad to see you posting again....






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noodle doodle
31 January 2017 10:51:35


This is more a moan about the Met Office than the weather. Yesterday morning it was -7C at Edinburgh Airport and -6C in my back garden in Livingston, but the weather forecast charts on the BBCs Breakfast show had the central belt at 0C. The night before they had forecast +2C for Edinburgh when it was already well below zero outside. There is a huge difference in conditions between zero and -7C and people here watching the weather would have been given the wrong impression about conditions outside. The point of a weather forecast is to assist us in planning our day, preparing for adverse conditions, etc. That's what the Met Office are paid to do.


I know frost can be difficult to forecast, but even the day before temperatures here were already well below zero when they were predicting a frost-free night. Well over a million people live in the central belt of Scotland and they deserve a better service than that, especially when there is no forecasting involved in letting morning viewers know what the weather is like at that time. I've seen this from them many times in the past. Are they incompetent, or simply unable to admit to error?


Originally Posted by: bluetriangle 


I think the beeb now get their weather data off someone other than the net office, but yeah been chilly in Edinburgh last few days, lower than met office web forecasts


 


 

Smurf
31 January 2017 11:28:18

If mid February doesn't deliver, then we would have either been the 'luckiest' country in Europe to have missed all the snowy chaos OR we are going to get battered!


 


Will this country cope? I fear for the elderly and the homeless. It could be a disaster even though we would like some snow.  


 


Time will tell...

richardabdn
01 February 2017 22:00:44

Number of air frosts during Dec & Jan:

2005/06: 12
2006/07: 15
2007/08: 19
2008/09: 21
2009/10: 30
2010/11: 31
2011/12: 16
2012/13: 19
2013/14: 11
2014/15: 23
2015/16: 11
2016/17: 7


Just sums up how utterly dire December and January were. Worst for frosts in my records by far. A truly desperate state when it’s not even close to the rock bottom standards set by 13/14 and 15/16.

After enduring that crap we are long overdue for something decent and what do we get? Horrendous, torturous, soul destroying, SE winds delivering dank grey muck, fog, rain and one degree diurnal ranges. Another spell of the worst of all synoptic set-ups to add to the ridiculous amount already suffered in this run of record breakingly awful winters post-2010.

Reports of flooding already in the local news https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/downpours-and-high-winds-arrive-to-round-off-january/  Asides from the dubious stats in that article (nothing like 50mm up to Sunday and I had 16mm yesterday so totals given for Dyce and Craibstone also look dodgy) this pig ignorant comment riled me: “One crumb of comfort is the temperature which will remain high for this time of year,”

What a complete clown Perhaps he would have liked to have gone up to Ballater last winter and said that to the residents. Would have likely ended up floating down the river like the rest of the debris. Clearly never sets foot outdoors except to open his car door if he thinks 6C with a 40mph SE wind and driving rain are anything but thoroughly nasty and repulsive conditions with no redeeming qualities 

See my signature for examples from a sadly long gone era of common sense when commentators in the newspapers were sensible and came across as well educated.


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