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KevBrads1
20 January 2017 18:08:54


This putrid run of winters has given us one of the wettest December’s on record (2012), one of the wettest January’s on record (2014) and the wettest January on record (2016).

No close to record breaking wet February so I’ve been thinking that perhaps we’ll get one of those, since getting anything remotely decent now appears impossible, and low and behold absolutely horrific charts like these start to appear


http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3361.gif 

Who knows whether that will transpire but what is clear is that this dire month joins December and a shedload of recent January’s as a total write-off month. It was unreal just how bad January was between 1988 and 2004 with few heavy snowfalls but since 2005 it has sunk to a whole new level of awfulness. Just three of the past 13 January’s have produced more than 2cm of snow. There are no words to describe how ridiculous this is. At least before 2011 December and February often delivered but since then they’re all in the same sinking boat of despair


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


And one of your sunniest!


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/2015/sunniest-winter-on-record


 


 


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Medlock Vale Weather
20 January 2017 22:21:19

Have we even gone into Winter yet? seems like perpetual Autumn. I'm not even chasing proper cold now.... think I have "model fatigue". Roll on Spring and the lighter evenings at least I won't have to use as much electric.


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Jiries
20 January 2017 22:26:29

First sun today since last Saturday, that's five full days of grim bog trotting anticyclonic vomit inducing garbage masquerading as winter. Roll on spring when I can sit in my greenhouse and enjoy the ever increasing power of the sun

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


In here was sunny for 4 days straight and possible to continue until early next week.  That wondering why in summer we cannot get 4 to 7 full sunshine days? Recent summers had been very hard to get a cloudless skies and when it does only 1 day or twice occur during the 3 summer months.  Spring and early Autumn does get the most sunny days.

Bolty
20 January 2017 22:39:52
Don't worry cold lovers. You'll get your snow in March and April most likely.
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tallyho_83
21 January 2017 00:18:55
Temperature now +2.5c and clouding over after early frost. It was -0.5 at 9pm here in Exeter and now at midnight it's +2.5c and still rising - all the frost has melted and wind has picked up too.- What looked to have been a nice cold crisp and frosty morning will probably turn out to be an overcast one now. Can't believe the temperature has risen by 3 degrees in a couple hours ....has anyone experienced the same in the south of England..? is there warm air aloft or warmer sector!? - it's not like it will produce any sleet or snow anyway!!

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tallyho_83
21 January 2017 16:56:53
Been a horrible day - overcast and cold at 4.3c max - matching December 1st 2016's daytime max. - Coldest day since then.

I don't know which is better - keep delaying the zonal westerly's or bring back the westerly's sooner so that we can get some weather back and build the blocking quicker!? What do you think?
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PFCSCOTTY
21 January 2017 17:03:19

Been a horrible day - overcast and cold at 4.3c max - matching December 1st 2016's daytime max. - Coldest day since then.

I don't know which is better - keep delaying the zonal westerly's or bring back the westerly's sooner so that we can get some weather back and build the blocking quicker!? What do you think?

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


who knows....the days are numbered in the south anyway, but of course no guarantee that the block will rebuild and if so would it be in the right place anyway as Europe would be mild by then too. It sure has been a bore fest this winter, if cooler and much dryer than last. 

tallyho_83
21 January 2017 17:23:22


 


 


who knows....the days are numbered in the south anyway, but of course no guarantee that the block will rebuild and if so would it be in the right place anyway as Europe would be mild by then too. It sure has been a bore fest this winter, if cooler and much dryer than last. 


Originally Posted by: PFCSCOTTY 


Well as a cold or convective weather enthusiast myself, I would like to see some snowy weather and I am tired of this benign rubbish we are getting! What's even more bizarre is that we are having a cold front on a southerly wind coming off the France and the channel right now. Since when was it meant to turn colder weather a southerly? Yet this will not bring anything and even if some did see a few flurries or snow grains it won't amount to much.


I would rather see the zonal westerly winds came in earlier and broke down this European high pressure so that it can rebuild then sit in a different location - (hopefully over Scandinavia this time). - We shall see!


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richardabdn
21 January 2017 20:08:16

Another crap frost free evening courtesy of North Sea murk which spread in during the late afternoon and is keeping the temperature stuck on 3C 


Looks odds on this winter is going to end up even worse, in terms of wintry weather, than 2013/14 - my most detested ever. This endless damp and frost free muck is as unhealthy as it is mind numbingly boring. Even with clear skies we can't get frost and the humidity remains well over 80%. Last time it was below 80% was 13th Jan 


Six frosts all winter when it is 21st January is beyond a joke and the current model output is so dire that there could conceivably be zero in the next fortnight. By then there would be almost no hope of even getting near the ridiculously poor total of 17 frosts recorded in 2013/14.


Severe cold and snow all over Europe: snow lying on the beach at Benidorm for the first time since 1926, the lowest temperatures in Naples since records began in 1929 and what does this hellhole get? - the least frosty winter on record. A disgusting abomination


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Solar Cycles
22 January 2017 09:51:49

Another grey laden depressing day. I've seen as many frosts this winter as I did the last but unlike last winter which actually had some interesting weather this one has had one day of interest only, the countdown to spring gathers pace and quite frankly it can't come quick enough.


sunny coast
22 January 2017 20:34:35
more frosts here than in the last 3 winters combined a week of perfect winter sunshine and frost
idj20
22 January 2017 20:39:06

Never mind, guys. Don't forget, the great Winter of 1947 didn't get going until the end of January . . .

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Oh.


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richardabdn
22 January 2017 20:49:22

The same as last night - overcast crap with the temperature stuck on 3C 


If it does clear then it will no doubt be too late to get a frost like last night and after that it's just mild frost free dross the entire run which now goes up to 7th February. Just unreal that it has now become virtually impossible to even get temps 1C below average 


If I were betting on February's weather I'd place the money on it being an entirely frost free month rather than opting for it to produce the first decent snowfall in years.


An absolutely toxic winter that is just a total disaster. Having to endure this in isolation would be bad enough but following on from the last three write-offs, it is horrific beyond words  


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nsrobins
23 January 2017 11:04:35
Yep - the high hangs on like a bad smell (or literally a bad smell if air quality is anything to go by) and keeps delaying the onset of proper weather with a good gale.
Do one now please and put us coldies out of our misery lol.
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Saint Snow
23 January 2017 11:10:35

Temp had fallen to -1.1c by the time I went to bed last night. Come 7.30am, it's +2.2c and foggy.


All this gives me mixed feelings. I'm narked because the temp rose (the min was apparently -1.8c), but relieved because the car was free of frost.



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Jiries
23 January 2017 17:14:44


Temp had fallen to -1.1c by the time I went to bed last night. Come 7.30am, it's +2.2c and foggy.


All this gives me mixed feelings. I'm narked because the temp rose (the min was apparently -1.8c), but relieved because the car was free of frost.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Often the forecasters kept saying freezing fog which mean you expect temps to continue to drop in foggy conditions otherwise it more like mild foggy type.  Last time I saw real freezing fog was back in Dec 1991 after it was -10C at night when fog came and stay subzero at -3C max then drop to -9C by next morning, the fog cleared and left a beautiful rime covered landscape.  

idj20
24 January 2017 13:46:12

Not a moan from me on this occasion.

At 7.4 C under near unbroken sunshine and calm winds in the early part of this afternoon, it is feeling and looking positively spring-like here at Folkestone. Quite reminiscent of '88 & '89.

I really hope this high pressure set up does put up a fight for as long as it possibly can. The Atlantic crap can stay put right where it belong . . . over the Atlantic.


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Chunky Pea
24 January 2017 14:20:16

After a few, dry and at times, sunny days, it is back to the dank, damp, low stratus fest with spits of pointless drizzle. Summer 2016 continues unabated.


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Smurf
25 January 2017 08:30:07

We never learn. Last night it was exiting on the model thread. Something cold on the horizon. But the MET were not mentioning it. So, unless they get exited about something, then we shouldn't either.


Such a disapointment again this morning. Better get used to rain. There will be plenty of it!

Bolty
25 January 2017 10:12:08
Thursday is going to be an utterly repulsive day by the looks of it. The BBC are going for high of 0C here and a fairly blustery wind... and absolutely abhorrent combination.
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Russwirral
25 January 2017 14:01:30
Im hedging my bets on a lot of wet drizzle tomorrow. with everyone else at least seeing a flurry.


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richardabdn
25 January 2017 20:12:55

Another step closer to the mildest and most frost-free winter on record with another ridiculously mild min of 7.8C last night. We have now completed a full two months of this mind-numbing mild and frost-free anticyclonic zonal write-off dross 

Lost count of the number of mins 5C or more above average this winter. The number 5C or below average is easy to track though because it’s a big fat zero with nothing lower than a truly pathetic -2.3C. It’s over four years since it last got to -5C (16/1/13)

Not even had any days this winter with a sub-zero mean or a sub-2C max and still only six frosts. 1988/89 managed 10 at Dyce and 15 at Craibstone so this horror show is on track to even beat that with run after run of model output showing total write-off conditions up to 384 hours. Absolutely nothing of interest at all in a winter so dire and beyond boring that even clear skies and light winds don’t produce frost. Makes the last few write-offs seem like proper winters by comparison.

Over the last six years winter has developed into an utterly wretched season of relentless soul destroying torture. A dark, depressing and dismal season devoid of any weather interest and the only thing to look forward to, during its three month duration, is it coming to an end


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Zubzero
26 January 2017 08:44:13

Today could be the coldest day I see for a very long time, the models after today are shocking for cold 


Still no sign off snow at all the wait goes on and on and on....... 

Solar Cycles
26 January 2017 08:54:35


Today could be the coldest day I see for a very long time, the models after today are shocking for cold 


Still no sign off snow at all the wait goes on and on and on....... 


Originally Posted by: Zubzero 

Coldest day here being forecast since December 2010..........  Personally I think that's it for any sub zero maximums for this winter and  possibly anything remotely wintry.

Zubzero
26 January 2017 09:09:42


Coldest day here being forecast since December 2010..........  Personally I think that's it for any sub zero maximums for this winter and  possibly anything remotely wintry.


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


It's been a half decent winter for frost and fog, compared to the last 2 winters it's been great. 


But been so long since a fall of snow i've forgot what it looks like. Id not be surprised to see it settle down again in a few weeks time, but the same as all Winter has been, with any deep cold and snow way of to the East.

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