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fairweather
04 December 2017 15:28:55


 


Closer to 79% of Winter left when you consider the context of time I was talking about. I didn't use the then present as a starting point. 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


In the interests of my support for accuracy and fair play, as of exactly 3pm today there has been 4.03% of the meteorological winter gone, so as near as dammit 96% left.  (31+31+28 =90 x24 =2160 hrs of winter.   72+15 =87 hrs gone at 3pm. 87/2160 *100 = 4.03%)


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Chunky Pea
04 December 2017 15:38:13


 


In the interests of my support for accuracy and fair play, as of exactly 3pm today there has been 4.03% of the meteorological winter gone, so as near as dammit 96% left.  (31+31+28 =90 x24 =2160 hrs of winter.   72+15 =87 hrs gone at 3pm. 87/2160 *100 = 4.03%)


Originally Posted by: fairweather 



Could be idea to set up some sort of HTML countdown clock in terms of percentage of time remaining. 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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xioni2
04 December 2017 15:45:07


 The first two are ‘text book examples’ of a positive and negative NAO: the third one seems to translate as the current pattern; not sure about the 4th - Google translate says it means ‘sorry’...!


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


These are the classic top 4 Euro-Atlantic regimes that ECMWF is using: NAO+ and NAO- (as you said) and then Scandinavian (or European) Blocking and Atlantic Ridge.


 

Ally Pally Snowman
04 December 2017 16:09:40

Snowy slider in the GFS 12 at 141h Stunner  perfect hit!


 


 


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
04 December 2017 16:11:00


Snowy slider in the GFS 12 at 141h Stunner  perfect hit!


 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Yes looks just right (IMBY)



Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Ally Pally Snowman
04 December 2017 16:12:16

ukmo looks to have the slider in a similar position not quite perfect but not bad.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
04 December 2017 16:12:32

UKMO is also sliding but looks to make a bit more headway so probably snow risk a bit further north? 850 chart not available yet.


 



Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Rob K
04 December 2017 16:15:00

GEM has the first trough crossing the country but sets up a second slider three days later:


 



Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Ally Pally Snowman
04 December 2017 16:16:26

Anothe gfs snowy slider at 168!


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
04 December 2017 16:16:44

Chilly night once that first slider rolls through on GFS!


 


The second one looks like bringing in some rather milder air though.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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squish
04 December 2017 16:19:30
Stunning GEM!
D.E.W on Dartmoor. 300m asl
Rob K
04 December 2017 16:21:42

Stunning GEM!

Originally Posted by: squish 


And the GFS is really quite similar to the GEM out to 180.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Ally Pally Snowman
04 December 2017 16:23:02


Chilly night once that first slider rolls through on GFS!


 


The second one looks like bringing in some rather milder air though.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Very briefly to the extreme south. It's a snowfest though Bank!


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Tractor Boy
04 December 2017 16:32:39

GFS 12z:


 


Slider 1, Thursday night:


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_144_1.png


 


Slider 2, Monday daytime:


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_168_1.png


 



 


Dave
Farndale, North York Moors
Rob K
04 December 2017 16:36:10

The "polar" vortex seems to be smashed to pieces here.


 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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warrenb
04 December 2017 16:37:19
What PV, it just hasn't had a chance this year. If this is the future with GW then I am going outside to turn the car on.
Solar Cycles
04 December 2017 16:40:29
Some impressive output for sure and if both the GFS and GEM were to verify most of the UK would see snow at some point over the next 7-10 days. 😱
Gavin D
04 December 2017 16:42:50

UKMO t144 850's


Rob K
04 December 2017 16:46:55


UKMO t144 850's



Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


That shows the mild air making much more progress across the country, not so good for down here, but plenty of time for change one way or the other...


Happy with the GFS - a series of sliding lows each making slightly more progress up the country but then a northeasterly setting in at the end!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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polarwind
04 December 2017 16:49:35


The "polar" vortex seems to be smashed to pieces here.


 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

It's the present and modelled positions of the Rossby Waves that has my attention.


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The Beast from the East
04 December 2017 16:50:33

GEM is what we want to see. UKMO would bring a snowy breakdown, hard to say where it would go from there. we need that jet to dig south more


 


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Rob K
04 December 2017 16:51:57

T384 on the GFS. Scorchio in the Shetlands, ice day in the Midlands :) 


 



Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Gandalf The White
04 December 2017 16:52:14


 


In the interests of my support for accuracy and fair play, as of exactly 3pm today there has been 4.03% of the meteorological winter gone, so as near as dammit 96% left.  (31+31+28 =90 x24 =2160 hrs of winter.   72+15 =87 hrs gone at 3pm. 87/2160 *100 = 4.03%)


Originally Posted by: fairweather 



 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Russwirral
04 December 2017 16:54:52
Stunning run from GFS, probably the best run of the winter so far. It probably wouldnt tick everyones box - agreed. But theres time for that to change as tweaks are made.

polarwind
04 December 2017 16:55:00


 


That shows the mild air making much more progress across the country, not so good for down here, but plenty of time for change one way or the other...


Happy with the GFS - a series of sliding lows each making slightly more progress up the country but then a northeasterly setting in at the end!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Yes, but that is essentially sinking south and not toppling or moving much in the eastern direction: is it?


"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)
"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat
Dave,Derby

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