Did she give a breakdown of how many died in hospital or care homes? People who go into ICU don't all die and some are there for many days, if not weeks. That would suggest to me that the number of deaths in care homes (or personal homes) is higher than the number of deaths in hospital?

Just saying. I am a stickler for fact checking. 

Nicola Sturgeon confirms Scotland will move from lockdown to phase one from May 28th if they don't see any unexpected rises 

• More outdoor activity permitted


• Sunbathing permitted


• You can meet 1 person from another household staying 6-ft apart


• Golf, tennis and bowls are able to resume


• Waste and recycling to resume


• Garden centres able to reopen though cafés etc must stay closed


• NHS services will slowly resume

Agree with this completely. However, I'm beginning to wonder whether I'm missing something because there doesn't seem any great concern about a second wave at the moment.

Just had an em from the guy who owns and manages the gym where I am a member. He expects to reopen in early July. 

Do people sunbathe in Scotland?

Of course they do, that's an outrageous question. Okay, they call it sitting in the rain with a coat on, but it's essentially the same thing

You can actually meet one other household not just one person

Probably because the 'R' number talked about on here, and by media expert's is based on the increase number of registered cases that have come about due to the increased testing. I suspect the government and their experts would have already factored in this  probability before making the decisions to lift restrictions. 

They will be monitoring what is happening in hospitals because they don't want the NHS to be overwhelmed - which didn't even happen with first wave.

That statement infers that the 2nd wave can't be bigger than the 1st.

Greater Manchester's track and trace system to start from next Tuesday although it sounds like it will still be developed after that time. Idea is that it helps with the more difficult cases where on the ground expertise is needed. Have heard of similar systems starting up elsewhere too.

'Greater Manchester’s own system would link in with that by taking on the difficult cases that can only be dealt with on the ground by people with expertise. Insiders said that despite the delays to the national version, a local one needed to be set up and in place as soon as possible in order to work with the data that does exist and avoid becoming overwhelmed.

Its focus could include cases in homeless hostels or domestic violence refuges, special schools, children’s homes, police stations and those who have mental health problems or could struggle to self isolate.'

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/greater-manchester-set-up-track-18284761

It doesn't though it points out that it didn't the first time round.

Are these experts you speak of, the ones who thought it was ok to proceed with the Cheltenham Festival?

One family came all the way down from Manchester would you believe. Perhaps the prospect of 28c was better than 22c up there.

Me too. Most of UK and Europe seem to be ploughing on with plans to reopen for tourists etc as if it’s nailed on the virus will just fade away. Unless it’s desperation / wishful thinking. 

The inference is  :-

"if it didn't EVEN happen in the 1st", ..... then it can't in the 2nd.

There wont be a second "peak", because even the dumbest pleb is now aware of social distancing and hygiene. You will just have a steady daily number. Probably about 100 deaths a day. In the US its about 1000

Why didnt you run them over? They are probably all on benefits anyway

wrongly quoting i see

Which is why the press are so desperate to talk about "militant trade unions" and Steve Coogan using furlough

Surely it can only be a matter of time before Chris Patten is smoked out as a communist by the New Brexit Party? Patten was always on the in the liberal wing of the Tory Party but now he's been left beached completely by their shift to nationalism. 

Making migrant care workers pay NHS surcharge 'immoral' and 'monstrous', says former Tory chair
Chris Patten, the former Conservative party chairman, told Emma Barnett on Radio 5 Live this morning that requiring migrant care workers to pay the NHS surcharge was “immoral”. He said:

It’s appalling, it’s immoral. We depend in our care homes on people who come from other countries. I think this is monstrous that people who come from overseas to help and risk their lives in really difficult circumstances aren’t treated properly.

There’s a basic sense of fair play in this country which I hope Mr Johnson will recognise. It would be madness and wickedness not to recognise the contribution which these people are making. It would be awful if we were to make people pay more when they are making such a big contribution to the well-being of older people in society.

This has probably deemed an `accebtable` number of deaths and it is pretty clear the strategy again is herd immunity and there will be no more lockdowns unless the burden on the NHS looks like being to heavy.I fully expect the whole of the economy to be back open with social distancing in July. I bet you a pint you will be able to go to the pub again in 2 months time.

*Careful. Beast will be salivating!

I did try to. Slippery buggers! 😃