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Retron
26 July 2019 07:50:50

The reply from that is interesting: "Hi. If you mean Faversham, we no longer have an official observation site at this location. There may still be a weather station, but it isn't ours. Our closest are in Manston and East Malling. ^Dan"


That directly contradicts the map on their own site!

Leysdown, north Kent
Heavy Weather 2013
26 July 2019 07:54:01


The reply from that is interesting: "Hi. If you mean Faversham, we no longer have an official observation site at this location. There may still be a weather station, but it isn't ours. Our closest are in Manston and East Malling. ^Dan"


That directly contradicts the map on their own site!


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Yes, I just looked at the Map - they also still have Gravesend on there as well

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
26 July 2019 07:59:02

So it looks like the Brogdale/Faversham result wont stand. What a shame.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Ally Pally Snowman
26 July 2019 07:59:09


The reply from that is interesting: "Hi. If you mean Faversham, we no longer have an official observation site at this location. There may still be a weather station, but it isn't ours. Our closest are in Manston and East Malling. ^Dan"


That directly contradicts the map on their own site!


Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


The Met Office come across as quite an amateur outfit sometimes it has to be said.


 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
james
26 July 2019 08:00:50


 


Oh exciting so there is one near Cambridge that is Manual!!


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Cambridge Botanic Garden is a bit of a disaster. The readings will depend on what combination of poly-tunnels, bare earth and six-foot high bushes they happen to have surrounding the station on a particular date.

Retron
26 July 2019 08:01:33


 


Yes, I just looked at the Map - they also still have Gravesend on there as well


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


They do, looks like it's quite out of date.


Brogdale's removal from the network seems to have crept under the radar, in that case. It was still an official station in February last year, as it was the coldest spot in the counrtry.


It's a pity we've lost Brogdale and Gravesend, it leaves the coverage of Kent - capable of some of the hottest temperatures in a SSE/SE'ly flow - woefully undercovered.


 

Leysdown, north Kent
Rob K
26 July 2019 08:01:52


 


Yes, I just looked at the Map - they also still have Gravesend on there as well


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


They also still have Hampton Waterworks on there which was replaced by Teddington Bushy Park, which opened in Feb 2017 according to a Met Office tweet. That map seems very out of date. They don’t seem to care about accuracy these days. 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Heavy Weather 2013
26 July 2019 08:07:50


 


They also still have Hampton Waterworks on there which was replaced by Teddington Bushy Park, which opened in Feb 2017 according to a Met Office tweet. That map seems very out of date. They don’t seem to care about accuracy these days. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Quite. This is all quite appalling really. Stations that are broken, stations which have been removed and poor coverage in certain areas. I dont have Twitter perhaps someone could direct them to update their Map.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Caz
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26 July 2019 08:14:31


 


They do, looks like it's quite out of date.


Brogdale's removal from the network seems to have crept under the radar, in that case. It was still an official station in February last year, as it was the coldest spot in the counrtry.


It's a pity we've lost Brogdale and Gravesend, it leaves the coverage of Kent - capable of some of the hottest temperatures in a SSE/SE'ly flow - woefully undercovered.


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 

But there’s also a lack of stations in East Anglia, which also makes a difference to the overall picture!  Not good at all is it!  The most discussed subject of this country is the weather and our national weather service seems to fail us dramatically!   

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Rob K
26 July 2019 08:50:40
Yes I was looking at the Dutch and Belgian data yesterday as they were breaking records and they seem to have almost as many stations in those tiny countries as we do. Much better coverage, and near-live data available online!
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
superteacher
26 July 2019 09:01:44
Well the Met Office have now decided that Brogdale is one of their sites. You couldn’t make it up!
Rob K
26 July 2019 09:04:56
They now say that the Bedford site was deliberately “blocked” because of concerns over the data?

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Retron
26 July 2019 09:08:14

Well the Met Office have now decided that Brogdale is one of their sites. You couldn’t make it up!

Originally Posted by: superteacher 


All fun and games!


I suspect there are actually two "tiers" of stations:



  • Met Office owned and operated stations

  • "Franchised" stations - Met Office approved (i.e. they have to meet all the rules and regulations) but maintained and operated by third parties.


Brogdale would be one of the latter.

Leysdown, north Kent
Ally Pally Snowman
26 July 2019 09:14:41

Well the Met Office have now decided that Brogdale is one of their sites. You couldn’t make it up!

Originally Posted by: superteacher 


 


I was thinking that , often the person in control of the Twitter feed doesn't seem to have all the facts to hand I've found.


 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Darren S
26 July 2019 09:25:34


 


All fun and games!


I suspect there are actually two "tiers" of stations:



  • Met Office owned and operated stations

  • "Franchised" stations - Met Office approved (i.e. they have to meet all the rules and regulations) but maintained and operated by third parties.


Brogdale would be one of the latter.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I assumed that all airports would be included in the list of MetO stations, but it seems Heathrow is the exception! No Gatwick, Stansted or Luton on that map, nor Lulsgate (Bristol), Southampton, etc.

Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Ally Pally Snowman
26 July 2019 09:27:46


 


I assumed that all airports would be included in the list of MetO stations, but it seems Heathrow is the exception! No Gatwick, Stansted or Luton on that map, nor Lulsgate (Bristol), Southampton, etc.


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


 


I'm thinking some of these will also be franchised stations.


 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
26 July 2019 09:29:40

Looks like the Scottish minimum temp record went last night 20.9c in Achnagart. 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
26 July 2019 09:32:04


Looks like the Scottish minimum temp record went last night 20.9c in Achnagart. 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Which also contradicts the Met Office statement on Twitter that no records were set last night. Amateur hour...

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Quantum
26 July 2019 09:53:48

So to sum up. No one has any idea what's going on, or if there is any chance of the 38.1C record increasing.


Great.


 

2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
xioni2
26 July 2019 10:01:40
james
26 July 2019 10:10:23


38.7C at Cambridge Botanic Garden


https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/observations/details/?site_id=27484233


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


Right, I'm off down there now to take some photos of the site. It's in their experimental plant growth area so could be anything from bare soil to poly-tunnels.

Ally Pally Snowman
26 July 2019 10:12:57


38.7C at Cambridge Botanic Garden


https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/observations/details/?site_id=27484233


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


We've done it then the records gone. Is this confirmed


 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Heavy Weather 2013
26 July 2019 10:16:58


 


 


We've done it then the records gone. Is this confirmed


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


This is crazy. Its there on their website and they haven't even official published. Can someone tweet them. We need to know its its record.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Ally Pally Snowman
26 July 2019 10:19:14


 


This is crazy. Its there on their website and they haven't even official published. Can someone tweet them. We need to know its its record.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


I'm pretty sure its going to count . 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Snow Hoper
26 July 2019 10:19:26
Back home in Suffolk to an unbelievably stuffy house with all the windows closed. Top temp with my Vue yesterday was 37.6C. People were driving their cars stating it was 39C around here yesterday, so I'm quite happy with MBY temp.
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