What a dull Cup tie ManU vs Liverpool has been. Can't see Liverpool coming back from this. The more things change, the more they stay the same i.e. Lucas still can't pass.

Let battle commence (with Liverpool) for an excellent player.

http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/liverpool-make-23m-approach---but-striker-would-pr

Tell you what, let us sign Suarez, and we'll give you a free run for Phil Neville

I'm going to buy Bill Kenwright a drink if I ever meet him.

You may yet get a free run for Suarez as we are apparently after Cavani too. God forbid, if we got those two (which we won't) it would be game, set and match for everyone else in the PL this year.

Phew(ish), neither Helen Keller Coward Webb nor Clattenburg will be refereeing Sunday's game against Utd - so we have a chance of winning. Instead it will be Mike Dean.

They say every picture tells a story. Well let's hope Old Baconface gets this irate.

So Blackpool are beating Liverpool 2-1 right now in the Prem League, while Arsenal are 1-0 down away to Ipswich in the Carling Cup............this season has to be the strangest in living memory

So Blackpool are beating Liverpool 2-1 right now in the Prem League, while Arsenal are 1-0 down away to Ipswich in the Carling Cup............this season has to be the strangest in living memory

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

That's a final score in the Carling Cup ........Ipswich beaten 7-0 in the FA Cup by Chelsea on Sunday and without a manager have beaten Arsenal in the first leg, mind you don't fancy their chances too much at the Emirates in the return fixture

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

If Wenger picks the same starting 11 in the second leg, you never know.

I think the answer to that is for all to see.

Blackpool complete the double over Liverpool by winning 2-1 tonight.

Who would have guessed that happening at the start of the season?

FT: Blackpool 2-1 Liverpool. Yes there have been some strange dips in form this season, notably Chelsea of course, and some strange results throughout the Premiership but Liverpool of course have never really got going at all. Make no mistake though this is a disastrous result for Liverpool ............. no disrespect to Blackpool but beaten home and away.........truly awful

Rather nasty piece in tonight's Standard. Starts off innocently enough before the knives come out.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23913227-king-kenny-dalglishs-reign-must-be-short-or-liverpool-will-become-like-newcastle.do

''Liverpool are in danger of becoming the new Newcastle, whose fans take great pride in their insularity but insult the rest of us by claiming no one has the same passion for their club or understands their plight.''

You have to ask yourself if there are three teams that are palpably worse than Liverpool. Well clearly West Ham are. Then it gets interesting.

What was it they said about Lehman Bros? Too big to go down?

Oh dear

Where to go from here???

(and please nobody say 'The Championship' FFS)

I refer you to my prevoius posts about perspectives and Liverpool's place in English football over the last couple of generations. I know we won't agree, but I stand by my view. They wont go down though

The Championship? 

I Don't think you will go down thankfully, it would be no fun at all if United couldn't play Liverpool in the league!

The problem with Liverpool is a lack of belief in the squad and a team that needs investment. the money needs to be given to a manager who knows how to spot talented young players and develop them, there is no quick fix because even if they had reasonable funds they cannot attract the top players because they are not a force in Europe. Even if the current group of players were in form and fulfilling their potential I doubt they would break into the top 4.

Although I never want Liverpool above United it is a real shame you aren't battling it out with us.

Manchester United were relegated to the Championship in the mid 70's. Football is on a different planet to the game in the 70's of course, but it could happen

Lol, Benzema to Villa if Adebayour moves to Real on loan. Mind you - a very dodgy source (Mirror)

If true, that's another team that'll finish above Liverpool.

At this rate the bin dippers will run out of teams to finish above. - bar West Ham of course.

I know these figures are quite old, but they are interesting nonetheless.

The one that immediately struck me was Fulham.

Deloitte Debt League - June 2010 (2009 / 2010 Season)

With the transfer market open, here is some interesting reading from the financial analysis company, Deloitte, on the plight of the modern game, and who is more likely to spend 'big' during the January window.

Below is a table ranking the ten most indebted clubs in Europe.

01. Manchester United £716m
02. Chelsea (Limited) £701m
03. Valencia C.F £501m
04. Liverpool £351m
05. Real Madrid £296m
06. FC Barcelona £273m
07. AS Roma £271m
08. Schalke 04 £234m
09. Arsenal £203m
10. Fulham £198m

A breakdown of the English Premier League, Team by Team.

Arsenal - Net debt: £203m

Aston Villa - Net debt: £72.3m

Birmingham City - Net debt: £12.0m

Blackburn Rovers - Net debt: £20.3m

Bolton Wanderers - Net debt: £58.4m

Burnley - Net debt: £11.9m

Chelsea - Net debt: £701m

Everton - Net debt: £37.9m

Fulham - Net debt: £198m

Hull City - Net debt: £17.1m

Liverpool - Net debt: £351m

Manchester City - Net debt: £194.4m

Manchester United - Net debt: £716m

Portsmouth - Net debt: £57.7m

Stoke City - Net debt: £2.3m

Sunderland - Net debt: £48.8m

Tottenham Hotspur - Net debt: £45.9m

West Ham - Net debt: £114.9m

Wigan Athletic -Net debt: £54.0m

Wolves - Net debt: £13.0m

Are you sure those figures are right???

I think you may be surprised with West Ham actually SEMerc......I am not sure they will win tomorrow however, but I think they will pull out of the bottom.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I'll be willing your boys on against Arsenal. Unlikely as it may be, Villa could be bottom Saturday night. The pressure will mount on Houlier.

The figures are from June 2010 and a lot will have changed for some clubs. But as I said in my original post, the club that caught my eye was Fulham. I can't imagine things have changed that much at Craven Cottage.

Why thank you...any support gratefully received