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Quantum
25 February 2020 12:29:20

The reason I'm annoyed is because clearly it is possible to contain this. China managed it at a late stage (through extreme measures) but Singapore controlled it in its early stages with relative east. Even Italy and SK seem to be making progress in controlling it before it is too late.


But Iran?


'Lets ignore it, cover up the damn thing and do nothing until it's already far too late'


China should be condemed for allowing this to happen in the first place by covering it up for the first month. But how stupid do you have to be to make the same mistake twice?


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Maunder Minimum
25 February 2020 12:31:56

How stupid does a 21st Century nation have to be, to be a mediæval theocracy?


New world order coming.
Quantum
25 February 2020 12:32:50


 


I have been reading an in-depth report on why Iran has become a regional epi-centre. Early in the outbreak, the Mullahs declared solidarity with China, continued transport links without restriction and even sent two million face masks to help the Chinese efforts (face masks which are now needed in Iran).


Instead of considering the needs and safety of the Iranian people, the Iranian authorities considered their strategic alliance with China to be more important - a consummate failure of statecraft.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Indeed, they got complacent. They were probably like 'it's no worse than flu'.


This is what happens when you get complacent, you take everyone down with you. FFS. I was actually getting my hopes up that this pandemic could be stopped too.


 


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
25 February 2020 12:34:18

I suppose the only thing you can say for Iran is at least they arn't as bad as North Korea who are still denying they have it despite a likely out of control epidemic occuring. North korea is isolated though so isn't that much of a big deal for the rest of us.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Heavy Weather 2013
25 February 2020 12:36:22


 


Indeed, they got complacent. They were probably like 'it's no worse than flu'.


This is what happens when you get complacent, you take everyone down with you. FFS. I was actually getting my hopes up that this pandemic could be stopped too.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Yes, I hear to many people using this phrase.


I have drilled down into the detail and you are right - case increases in SK and Italy have levelled off and this is good news. Let's hope this trend continues.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Maunder Minimum
25 February 2020 12:40:39


 


Yes, I hear to many people using this phrase.


I have drilled down into the detail and you are right - case increases in SK and Italy have levelled off and this is good news. Let's hope this trend continues.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Does not help massively, if the Middle East loses control - it is much nearer than SK and the spread into highly populated countries with poor infrastructure, is alarming quite frankly - Iran has Pakistan to its east and Turkey, Iraq and Syria to its west. If an epidemic breaks out in the refugee camps - well, you can join up the dots.


New world order coming.
Quantum
25 February 2020 12:40:40


 


Yes, I hear to many people using this phrase.


I have drilled down into the detail and you are right - case increases in SK and Italy have levelled off and this is good news. Let's hope this trend continues.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


What do South korea and Italy have in common? They both took this really seriously. Italy took it more seriously than any other European country. They were the first to ringfence funds to deal with a potential epidemic and very quickly screened flights from China. The outbreak is just bad luck.


South korea has an almost machine level of organisation when it comes to this. They are lab testing nearly a thousand a day and tracking down every transmission chain very meticulously. They also have experience from SARS when it comes to handeling this.


So yes I think there is a good chance the outbreaks in SK and Italy will be contained but only because they don't have the same 'it's just flu'ism attitude that many people have in here.


Iran. No chance of containment.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Heavy Weather 2013
25 February 2020 12:40:44

OT but interesting how the left get so worked up over the tea bags someone uses, but are so relaxed about this outbreak.


Strange times.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51621812


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Quantum
25 February 2020 12:42:04


OT but interesting how the left get so worked up over the tea bags someone uses, but are so relaxed about this outbreak.


Strange times.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51621812


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Worrying about non problems like tea and pronouns but not taking an actual problem like a potential pandemic seriously!


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Heavy Weather 2013
25 February 2020 12:44:53


 


Worrying about non problems like tea and pronouns but not taking an actual problem like a potential pandemic seriously!


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


You couldn't make it up could you


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
xioni2
25 February 2020 12:47:15


Iran will sink us all. Absolutely ridiculous country.


 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


God will save the Iranian people from this American virus.

xioni2
25 February 2020 12:51:33


 So yes I think there is a good chance the outbreaks in SK and Italy will be contained but only because they don't have the same 'it's just flu'ism attitude that many people have in here.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I see you are itching for a fight again.

Quantum
25 February 2020 12:52:07

There are more daily cases in SK and Italy combined than Hubei now.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Heavy Weather 2013
25 February 2020 12:52:10


 


I see you are itching for a fight again.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


It is statement of fact.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Maunder Minimum
25 February 2020 12:53:08


There are more daily cases in SK and Italy combined than Hubei now.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Italy is not out of the woods:


https://www.thelocal.it/20200225/new-coronavirus-cases-confirmed-in-tuscany-and-sicily


 


New world order coming.
Quantum
25 February 2020 12:54:45


 


Italy is not out of the woods:


https://www.thelocal.it/20200225/new-coronavirus-cases-confirmed-in-tuscany-and-sicily


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Indeed, they still have a long way to go.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.

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