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Ally Pally Snowman
26 February 2020 08:21:54

Another case in Croatia, he had recently gone to Italy to see a champions league game.


 


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Heavy Weather 2013
26 February 2020 08:23:30


Another case in Croatia, he had recently gone to Italy to see a champions league game.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


This could well force the hands of the Irish to postpone their up coming match with Italy. I understand its very much under consideration at this point.


Mark
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speckledjim
26 February 2020 08:27:54


 


This could well force the hands of the Irish to postpone their up coming match with Italy. I understand its very much under consideration at this point.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


In all likelihood that game will be postponed - no cases in Ireland at present and they will wish to keep it that way.


Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Ally Pally Snowman
26 February 2020 08:28:14


 


This could well force the hands of the Irish to postpone their up coming match with Italy. I understand its very much under consideration at this point.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


This weekend half of the Serie A football games will be behind closed doors ( no fans). Could they do that?


 


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Roger Parsons
26 February 2020 08:29:20


Has the British government advised people to work from home yet? At a stroke they could reduce population (not sure if the right word) density on public transport and the roads as well in offices / work environments. IMHO it offers an opportunity to kick start home working in the UK.  


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Nice if HMRC could announce any costs related to this would be tax deductable this year, Brian? Also - service providers could make special deals available. Could it work?


Roger


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Maunder Minimum
26 February 2020 08:38:45


 


Interesting, thanks.


Re-the cruise ship, surely with the virus present even a negative test means little because someone could become infected during the time it takes to get the test result?


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


We shall never know the ratio - some may have become infected between testing negative and actually disembarking, but others will have produced a false negative (false negatives have been reported from every country which has had more than a few cases - that is why two tests are usually carried out on suspected cases).


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
26 February 2020 08:44:43

284 new cases this morning for South Korea but they are testing thousands. 


 


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Brian Gaze
26 February 2020 08:46:52


 


Nice if HMRC could announce any costs related to this would be tax deductable this year, Brian? Also - service providers could make special deals available. Could it work?


Roger


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


I suspect it would be an administrative nightmare and open to abuse. Much simpler to make an across the board tax cut for 12 months and encourage companies to move towards home working for the foreseeable future.   


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Roger Parsons
26 February 2020 08:53:38


 


I suspect it would be an administrative nightmare and open to abuse. Much simpler to make an across the board tax cut for 12 months and encourage companies to move towards home working for the foreseeable future.   


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


That makes sense to me, Brian. Having worked from home, self-employed for a while, i know what a boost that would be to a lot of folks, not to mention companies. However, with all the poisoned financial chalices the government gave itself at the election, I doubt there will be a lot of give in the system!


R.


RogerP
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nsrobins
26 February 2020 08:54:20


Has the British government advised people to work from home yet? At a stroke they could reduce population (not sure if the right word) density on public transport and the roads as well in offices / work environments. IMHO it offers an opportunity to kick start home working in the UK.  


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


There are still people that actually bolt things together and cut metal and bend pipes, which is quite tricky to do in your front room. Add health, utility, law enforcement and transport etc and I’d imagine a lockdown will have a huge impact.


A part of me thinks the global spread of CVD is not containable and we should just let it go ‘wild’ and focus resources on treating the most serious cases rather than trying to prevent the spread. This might not be popular of course.


Neil
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Heavy Weather 2013
26 February 2020 08:55:45

My manager has already sat down with me to discuss the virus and explained they will support my decision to self isolate of there is an outbreak similar to Italy.


 


Mark
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Brian Gaze
26 February 2020 09:01:27


 


There are still people that actually bolt things together and cut metal and bend pipes, which is quite tricky to do in your front room. Add health, utility, law enforcement and transport etc and I’d imagine a lockdown will have a huge impact.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Yes but many more people can work from home than do. In Japan they have urged staff to work from home.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-japan/japan-urges-firms-to-have-staff-work-from-home-over-coronavirus-soccer-postponed-idUSKCN20J0EB


 


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Roger Parsons
26 February 2020 09:02:04


There are still people that actually bolt things together and cut metal and bend pipes, which is quite tricky to do in your front room. Add health, utility, law enforcement and transport etc and I’d imagine a lockdown will have a huge impact.


A part of me thinks the global spread of CVD is not containable and we should just let it go ‘wild’ and focus resources on treating the most serious cases rather than trying to prevent the spread. This might not be popular of course.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


There is a logic to what you say, NSR - as we know one day the outbreak will be over and the disease will reach a [hopefully] less visible equilibrium. There will have been deaths, many of them amongst the most vulnerable, some of the even merciful. However, many of us would presumably all say "I hope it isn't me." and be willing to put up with the inconvenience of improvised biosecurity and quarantine measures for now. Would you really push the "go wild" button?


In the case of animal disease - which I do know about - I am aware of alleged past cases of deliberate spread of infection for the very reasons you describe.


Roger


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Maunder Minimum
26 February 2020 09:02:27


My manager has already sat down with me to discuss the virus and explained they will support my decision to self isolate of there is an outbreak similar to Italy.


 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


The Swedish/Danish company I freelance for has sent a flyer out to all staff this morning on corona-virus. It states that if you feel unwell, you should self isolate and work from home (I work from home in any case) and any who have recently visited China or SK should self isolate in such manner for two weeks on returning to Denmark - oddly, it does not mention those Danes who have been to Italy. Last week was half term in Sweden and Denmark and plenty go on ski holidays to Italy, so that is an odd omission, unless you see it in the context of not wanting to upset another EU country.


Extract:


"Can I/my team member go to China on business trip?


No


Why don’t you put alcohol based hand rub everywhere?


It’s more or as effective to wash your hands in running water and soap than using alcohol based hand rub. Alcohol based hand rub is placed at strategic places as a complement to soap and water.


Can I wear a face mask to work?


A face mask does not protect you from getting infected and is not advised to use. To reduce the risk of getting sick wash your hands often and avoid having your hands and fingers in your face.


Who can I contact if I’m afraid?


Contact the local health authorities.


Can I work from home?


This is a discussion you need to have with your leader. If you get sick you should as always stay at home and focus on getting better."


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Heavy Weather 2013
26 February 2020 09:05:16

Germany reports two more cases:




Man critically ill in Germany






Two more people in Germany have tested positive for coronavirus, with one of them in a critical condition:



  • A 47-year-old man from the Heinsberg district of North Rhine-Westphalia is in hospital in Düsseldorf. He is critically ill. All schools and kindergartens in the district will remain closed on Wednesday

  • A 25-year-old man living in the state of Baden-Wuerttemberg tested positive after recently returning from a trip to Milan


This brings the number of cases to 18 in Germany.




Mark
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The Beast from the East
26 February 2020 09:07:13


 


Why would you want to defend the disgusting Iranian regime? Even given sanctions, they are making no efforts to contain the virus, all their "holy" sites remain open and open prayer gatherings continue. That is because the country is run (unbelievable in the 21st century) by a stupid, brain dead theocracy.


Not only does that affect the hapless and misgoverned Iranian people, but it threatens the whole Middle East with a pandemic.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I'm not defending them, I'm saying some sanctions should be lifted so they can get masks etc to contain the virus and get outside help from the WHO or whatever


 Yes, its a vile regime, but time to put politics to one side


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Heavy Weather 2013
26 February 2020 09:08:36

Meanwhile the selloff continues with the FTSE down almost 2% again.


 


Mark
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warrenb
26 February 2020 09:24:24


Meanwhile the selloff continues with the FTSE down almost 2% again.


 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


The stupid thing with the FTSE is that it hasn't bubbled like the US stock markets, but follows the falls. It should be a much smaller correction in the FTSE, but because they basically just follow the US we have the percentage falls as them.


A couple of months of not looking how your pension is doing coming up.


Maunder Minimum
26 February 2020 09:28:37


 


I'm not defending them, I'm saying some sanctions should be lifted so they can get masks etc to contain the virus and get outside help from the WHO or whatever


 Yes, its a vile regime, but time to put politics to one side


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


On that topic I would agree with you. However, I am not sure the Iranian regime would be receptive to WHO intervention, since the truth of the situation on the ground there would inevitably be revealed. The reality is that Iran has thousands of cases.


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Ally Pally Snowman
26 February 2020 09:28:42


My manager has already sat down with me to discuss the virus and explained they will support my decision to self isolate of there is an outbreak similar to Italy.


 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


That's good hopefully many/most companies will do similar things. But we are in uncharted territory here so who knows.


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
26 February 2020 09:29:45

France reports 3 new cases including one death.


 


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Heavy Weather 2013
26 February 2020 09:30:06


 


The stupid thing with the FTSE is that it hasn't bubbled like the US stock markets, but follows the falls. It should be a much smaller correction in the FTSE, but because they basically just follow the US we have the percentage falls as them.


A couple of months of not looking how your pension is doing coming up.


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


Yes, I have noticed this as well. Often if the DOW drops on opening, the FTSE will follow - more often than not the DOW then corrects upwards.


The FTSE really does lag behind the dow


Mark
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Brian Gaze
26 February 2020 09:32:06

On the plus side (for young folk who want to buy) property could become a lot cheaper if we have a mega corona-cull. Supply and demand would be radically altered. 


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Gandalf The White
26 February 2020 09:33:33


 


The stupid thing with the FTSE is that it hasn't bubbled like the US stock markets, but follows the falls. It should be a much smaller correction in the FTSE, but because they basically just follow the US we have the percentage falls as them.


A couple of months of not looking how your pension is doing coming up.


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


Depending on your age it's more accurate to see the fall in the markets as a great opportunity to boost your pension pot, as your monthly contributions will buy more shares. It's only a problem if you're about to retire and haven't taken steps to de-risk.


 


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Brian Gaze
26 February 2020 09:36:42


 


Depending on your age it's more accurate to see the fall in the markets as a great opportunity to boost your pension pot, as your monthly contributions will buy more shares. It's only a problem if you're about to retire and haven't taken steps to de-risk.


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Indeed. 


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