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xioni2
19 March 2020 08:44:22


I think the hotels are primarily for medical staff. I doubt they are suitable for ICUs.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


That's correct obviously. London could quickly run out of ICU capacity. I mentioned yesterday that the French transported successfully six critical patients from overwhelmed hospitals in eastern France using military aircraft with on board ICUs. I assume we have something like that too as they are used in the war field?

Justin W
19 March 2020 08:44:38

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 08:45:37

Australia is finally getting up to speed with the travel issue:


"Australia’s absolute ban on foreign travellers from Friday night is a dramatic step – but one Prime Minister Scott Morrison said was crucial to slow the spread of Covid-19.


Earlier travel bans – and the prospect of quarantine for those who were allowed in - had already reduced travel to Australia to one-third of normal levels.


But stopping all but Australian citizens and residents entering the country will soon cut international arrivals to a trickle – mainly Aussies abroad heeding government advice to head home as soon as possible.


Qantas has agreed to keep services going from key locations to enable those repatriations, the PM said.


“About 80% of the cases we have in Australia are either the results of someone who has contracted the virus overseas or someone who has had direct contact with someone who has returned from overseas," Mr Morrison added.


"So, the overwhelming proportion of cases in Australia have been imported.”"

New world order coming.
Justin W
19 March 2020 08:46:28

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
19 March 2020 08:46:56

Anything with the word European is the devil for these deranged ideologues.


 



The UK is still refusing to participate in the joint EU procurement program for ventilators & medical equipment despite EU saying they can..

...because it’s a European program.

It’s now a “pure Brexit” & death for Britain.



Originally Posted by: Justin W 

The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 08:47:11


Brexit. The first results are in:


EU countries: borders closed, lockdown, currency drifting but basically stable 


UK: Borders STILL open, cretins still visiting Wetherspoons every night, sterling in freefall


Which supranational entity is more likely to survive this?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Until a vaccine is found, lockdown just delays the inevitable.


Cummings is probably right - take the hit now and get it over with


Look at Wuhan. No cases because the whole population has got it and 99% lived and have now immunity. Sad for those that died, but circle of life, Simba


 

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Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 08:48:00


 


That's correct obviously. London could quickly run out of ICU capacity. I mentioned yesterday that the French transported successfully six critical patients from overwhelmed hospitals in eastern France using military aircraft with on board ICUs. I assume we have something like that too as they are used in the war field?


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Yes, we have medevac capabilities, but as the French experience demonstrates above, it can only help at the very margins. Moving six critically ill people when thousands are falling critically ill, is not even a pin prick.

New world order coming.
nsrobins
19 March 2020 08:48:13


 


I think the hotels are primarily for medical staff. I doubt they are suitable for ICUs.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I wondered why this wasn’t happening yesterday. There are army tented field hospitals (from Afghanistan for instance) in storage that could be built in quick time on open areas in cities. 
If the demands on the NHS peak as high as the ‘experts’ predict (the ones managing the situation) then surely it’s time to mobilise the Army Medical Corp. 


Or maybe, like closing schools and the imminent strict measures in major cities, HMG don’t want the sight if hundreds of Army vehicles on the streets to frighten people. Too late for that maybe?

Neil
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Justin W
19 March 2020 08:48:20


Australia is finally getting up to speed with the travel issue:


"Australia’s absolute ban on foreign travellers from Friday night is a dramatic step – but one Prime Minister Scott Morrison said was crucial to slow the spread of Covid-19.


Earlier travel bans – and the prospect of quarantine for those who were allowed in - had already reduced travel to Australia to one-third of normal levels.


But stopping all but Australian citizens and residents entering the country will soon cut international arrivals to a trickle – mainly Aussies abroad heeding government advice to head home as soon as possible.


Qantas has agreed to keep services going from key locations to enable those repatriations, the PM said.


“About 80% of the cases we have in Australia are either the results of someone who has contracted the virus overseas or someone who has had direct contact with someone who has returned from overseas," Mr Morrison added.


"So, the overwhelming proportion of cases in Australia have been imported.”"


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Were you knocking one out when you bolded that bit?

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 08:48:50




Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Nicola Ferrari saying that the EU has blocked us from attending


 

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Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Brian Gaze
19 March 2020 08:49:34




Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Best hope Bamford doesn't decide he can make more money flogging them to the EU. On the other hand perhaps better for us if he does. I expect anything produced in the UK will take weeks or months and is likely to riddled with faults. That's not a criticism of the Brits. It's an observation on how manufacturing works. It takes a long time to build reliable high tech products and usually involved a number of iterations. 

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Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 08:50:00


 


Were you knocking one out you bolded that bit?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Just bolding the bleedin' obvious - every single case in every country outside China can be traced back to an imported case at some point.


 

New world order coming.
Brian Gaze
19 March 2020 08:51:43


Or maybe, like closing schools and the imminent strict measures in major cities, HMG don’t want the sight if hundreds of Army vehicles on the streets to frighten people. Too late for that maybe?


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


I am genuinely wondering if the UK government is still holding back because it fears it will lead to panic. Perhaps they fear lockdown can not be enforced because we don't have enough police / soldiers? 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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nsrobins
19 March 2020 08:52:13


 


Nicola Ferrari saying that the EU has blocked us from attending


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


But the report was in The Guardian so it must be true? 😂

Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 08:52:56


 


I am genuinely wondering if the UK government is still holding back because it fears it will lead to panic. Perhaps they fear lockdown can not be enforced because we don't have enough police / soldiers? 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Lockdown is inevitable, it is being planned, but it won't be announced until it happens. The Gov. have learned that lesson. Everything is being put in place to enforce it from the second it is announced. Trust me on that one.

New world order coming.
The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 08:53:00


 


I wondered why this wasn’t happening yesterday. There are army tented field hospitals (from Afghanistan for instance) in storage that could be built in quick time on open discs in cities. 
If the demands on the NHS peak as high as the ‘experts’ predict (the ones managing the situation) then surely it’s time to mobilise the Army Medical Corp. 


Or maybe, like closing schools and the imminent strict measures in major cities, HMG don’t want the sight if hundreds of Army vehicles on the streets to frighten people. Too late for that maybe?


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Not necessary and the numbers wont be as bad as predicted. Its expectation management. Look at Wuhan. All over and only a small number died


I suspect only about 20,000 will die here - not much more than a bad flu season


I think Cummings can see the big picture. This is not as bad as it looks 


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
xioni2
19 March 2020 08:53:10


Best hope Bamford doesn't decide he can make more money flogging them to the EU. On the other hand perhaps better for us if he does. I expect anything produced in the UK will take weeks or months and is likely to riddled with faults. That's not a criticism of the Brits. It's an observation on how manufacturing works. It takes a long time to build reliable high tech products and usually involved a number of iterations. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The biggest ventilator manufacturer in the world says it takes 4-5 years to develop a new one and that the UK is very poorly equipped and the lack of investment will cost us dearly. 


https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-ventilators-exclus/exclusive-uk-faces-massive-shortage-of-ventilators-swiss-manufacturer-idUKKBN2153GU

Justin W
19 March 2020 08:53:42


 


But the report was in The Guardian so it must be true? 😂


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


The Guardian report is correct. Because the U.K. is in the implementation period, it is entitled to attend. Of course that does not fit the ‘blame dirty furriners’ narrative.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
19 March 2020 08:54:39


Look at Wuhan. No cases because the whole population has got it and 99% lived and have now immunity. Sad for those that died, but circle of life, Simba


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


That's bollocks.

Justin W
19 March 2020 08:54:42


 


Not necessary and the numbers wont be as bad as predicted. Its expectation management. Look at Wuhan. All over and only a small number died


I suspect only about 20,000 will die here - not much more than a bad flu season


I think Cummings can see the big picture. This is not as bad as it looks 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Grow up.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 08:55:18


 


I am genuinely wondering if the UK government is still holding back because it fears it will lead to panic. Perhaps they fear lockdown can not be enforced because we don't have enough police / soldiers? 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Police don't have the numbers to investigate burglaries and robberies. They aren't going to patrol the streets stopping plebs going to illegal gatherings


The Army could do it, but that would cause social issues in an ethnically diverse city like London

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Justin W
19 March 2020 08:55:51


 


Not necessary and the numbers wont be as bad as predicted. Its expectation management. Look at Wuhan. All over and only a small number died


I suspect only about 20,000 will die here - not much more than a bad flu season


I think Cummings can see the big picture. This is not as bad as it looks 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


How does it feel to be killing old people just so you can sink another couple of pints? Does it fill you with pride?

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 08:56:38


 


That's bollocks.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


So why are there no new cases?


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 08:59:10


 


Police don't have the numbers to investigate burglaries and robberies. They aren't going to patrol the streets stopping plebs going to illegal gatherings


The Army could do it, but that would cause social issues in an ethnically diverse city like London


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


The army is already being moved to prime locations to enforce the lockdown as soon as it is announced.


Why on earth should an "ethnically diverse city" not welcome the army? After all, they are all British, regardless of ethnicity.

New world order coming.
speckledjim
19 March 2020 08:59:13


 


How does it feel to be killing old people just so you can sink another couple of pints? Does it fill you with pride?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


As long as the vulnerable groups are self isolating they won’t be killed by the virus. Beast can then enjoy his pint and feel no guilt.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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