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RobN
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Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:28:57 PM


So are we allowed to drive to take excersise? This isn't clear.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Yes according to the BBC. "Nothing expressly forbids people driving somewhere to go for a walk"


See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51176409


 

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Quantum
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:30:07 PM

The last thing, though, that I want is to be stopped by a COVID infected policeman.


If it is allowed, though, I might push it back to an even more ridiculous hour and bring a torch.


 

2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Brian Gaze
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:30:24 PM


If anyone could find this link it would be helpful.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


BBC News livefeed page 2 today:


 


Can I go for a drive by myself to get out of the house for a while?"


Dr Peter Drobac of the Syed Business School at Oxford said: "The answer is no - we are told to go out to do essential shopping and go out once a day for exercise. The individual risk is low from driving around but the best thing we can do is adhere to the guidelines very strictly."


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52026908/page/2


 


 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Brian Gaze
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:31:15 PM


The last thing, though, that I want is to be stopped by a COVID infected policeman.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Is the correct answer. 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Saint Snow
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:31:43 PM


 


Yes according to the BBC.


See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51176409


Originally Posted by: RobN 


 


Like I say, I think the police are aiming to stop loads of people congregating unwittingly at well-known beauty spots and the like.


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Quantum
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:32:08 PM


 


BBC News livefeed page 2 today:


 


Can I go for a drive by myself to get out of the house for a while?"


Dr Peter Drobac of the Syed Business School at Oxford said: "The answer is no - we are told to go out to do essential shopping and go out once a day for exercise. The individual risk is low from driving around but the best thing we can do is adhere to the guidelines very strictly."


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52026908/page/2


 


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


But that would be a drive without purpose.


A drive with a purpose (i.e government mandated once a day excersise) is not the same.

2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
John S2
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:32:38 PM
I have looked on the BBC website and this was part of an answer posted only an hour ago:
'Nothing expressly forbids people driving somewhere to go for a walk'
Retron
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:32:55 PM


The last thing, though, that I want is to be stopped by a COVID infected policeman.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


If your area's like mine, you won't see any at 5:30.


I can't remember the last time I saw a policeman around here before 6 AM... you don't even see them on patrol on the dual carriageway.


(Bear in mind I live in an area in which the nearest police station is 9 miles away and even then it's not manned 24/7).

Leysdown, north Kent
llamedos
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:33:35 PM


 


BBC News livefeed page 2 today:


 


Can I go for a drive by myself to get out of the house for a while?"


Dr Peter Drobac of the Syed Business School at Oxford said: "The answer is no - we are told to go out to do essential shopping and go out once a day for exercise. The individual risk is low from driving around but the best thing we can do is adhere to the guidelines very strictly."


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52026908/page/2


 


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Thanks for clarifying that. On BBC Q&A yesterday the advice was that it was OK to go out for an hours drive. Things change I guess or at least a better explanation is provided,

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Quantum
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:34:01 PM

I have looked on the BBC website and this was part of an answer posted only an hour ago:
'Nothing expressly forbids people driving somewhere to go for a walk'

Originally Posted by: John S2 


So it's legal to drive in order to take excersise.


It is illegal to drive just to 'get out of the house'. Driving must have a purpose, and that purpose could be one of the four exceptions for leaving the house.


 

2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Brian Gaze
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:34:04 PM


 


But that would be a drive without purpose.


A drive with a purpose (i.e government mandated once a day excersise) is not the same.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


How on earth would that be enforced? I could say I'm driving to go for a walk. Would the police follow me until I parked and did a few km. 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Saint Snow
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:34:05 PM

I just hope people don't push for clarification or the Govt will go for the draconian option which will knacker us all up.


Martin
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Aneurin Bevan
Quantum
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:35:11 PM


 


If your area's like mine, you won't see any at 5:30.


I can't remember the last time I saw a policeman around here before 6 AM... you don't even see them on patrol on the dual carriageway.


(Bear in mind I live in an area in which the nearest police station is 9 miles away and even then it's not manned 24/7).


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Might push it back a little bit so I can be completely done by 6am.

2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
ozone_aurora
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:35:37 PM

I wonder if it's because there is a risk of ambulance crew catching coronavirus from a driver who has been involved in an accident, so stopping unnecessary driving?

Polar Low
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:36:22 PM

As long as you have your AC set on internal not external seems many grey areas.


 


 




Thanks for clarifying that. On BBC Q&A yesterday the advice was that it was OK to go out for an hours drive. Things change I guess or at least a better explanation is provided,


Originally Posted by: llamedos 

speckledjim
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:41:22 PM
Everyone must stay at home to help stop the spread of coronavirus.
You should only leave the house for 1 of 4 reasons:
-shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible
-one form of exercise a day, for example a run, walk, or cycle – alone or with members of your household
-any medical need, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person
-travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home

This suggests to me that you cannot drive anywhere just to exercise.
Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Sevendust
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:42:42 PM

Everyone must stay at home to help stop the spread of coronavirus.
You should only leave the house for 1 of 4 reasons:
-shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible
-one form of exercise a day, for example a run, walk, or cycle – alone or with members of your household
-any medical need, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person
-travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home

This suggests to me that you cannot drive anywhere just to exercise.

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


This is how I would interpret it

Quantum
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:44:45 PM

Well it's ambigious isn't it, because it does not explicitly rule it out and that BBC article suggests its allowed. And its not inconsistent with the other article that says you can't just 'go on a drive' as that is not covered by one of those four scenarios.


 

2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Brian Gaze
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:45:03 PM
Mass self testing for antibodies will be available in the UK by Monday. Amazon will distribute the kits on behalf of the government. Like blood glucose testing although results will take longer - 10 to 15 mins as opposed to a few seconds. This is the game changer.
Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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speckledjim
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:45:44 PM


Well it's ambigious isn't it, because it does not explicitly rule it out and that BBC article suggests its allowed. And its not inconsistent with the other article that says you can't just 'go on a drive' as that is not covered by one of those four scenarios.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


It may be ambiguous to you and me but not to the Police

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Rob K
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:47:29 PM


 


BBC News livefeed page 2 today:


 


Can I go for a drive by myself to get out of the house for a while?"


Dr Peter Drobac of the Syed Business School at Oxford said: "The answer is no - we are told to go out to do essential shopping and go out once a day for exercise. The individual risk is low from driving around but the best thing we can do is adhere to the guidelines very strictly."


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52026908/page/2


 


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


That’s surely talking about just going for a drive for its own sake though? It isn’t talking about driving to a place for exercise. 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Heavy Weather 2013
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:48:27 PM

Mass self testing for antibodies will be available in the UK by Monday. Amazon will distribute the kits on behalf of the government. Like blood glucose testing although results will take longer - 10 to 15 mins as opposed to a few seconds. This is the game changer.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


This is indeed. Great news.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Saint Snow
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:50:19 PM

Mass self testing for antibodies will be available in the UK by Monday. Amazon will distribute the kits on behalf of the government. Like blood glucose testing although results will take longer - 10 to 15 mins as opposed to a few seconds. This is the game changer.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


Can't wait!


Do we need to pay? Does everyone get one?


(And why aren't the Govt using Royal Mail, instead of an American tax-dodging company that pays minimum wage to most of its staff?)


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Sevendust
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:51:29 PM


That’s surely talking about just going for a drive for its own sake though? It isn’t talking about driving to a place for exercise. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


People should be off the road unless absolutely necessary. Going for a drive for drive's sake is not acceptable and adds traffic to roads which should be kept clear for supply deliveries, emergency vehicles etc. 

Heavy Weather 2013
Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:52:26 PM


 


 


Can't wait!


Do we need to pay? Does everyone get one?


(And why aren't the Govt using Royal Mail, instead of an American tax-dodging company that pays minimum wage to most of its staff?)


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Good point. One assumes everyone will have one?


How much will they cost? 

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

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