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Brian Gaze
01 April 2020 12:46:38

Downing Street: 2,000 of 500,000 frontline NHS England staff have been tested for coronavirus



At the daily No 10 briefing of lobby journalists, Downing Street said just 2,000 people out of 500,000 frontline NHS England staff have been tested for coronavirus.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/apr/01/uk-coronavirus-live-nhs-testing-covid-19-updates-latest


 



Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Quantum
01 April 2020 12:47:47

JFF model going for 3257 confirmed new cases today.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Phil G
01 April 2020 12:48:56

The lockdowns are desperate measures and almost medieval in nature. They are also proof of our (and Europe's) failure to handle this early like the Asian countries did. There is evidence that they work though and Italy will probably soon confirm this.

If we don't setup a large test and trace programme, then the lockdown will last much longer than necessary or repeated at will until mass vaccination is available. Even having a billion antibody tests won't do us any good if we don't have a proper trace and isolate programme in order to break the transmission chains. The Chinese used 1800 teams of 5 staff each in Wuhan alone and they stopped the contagion.

Originally Posted by: xioni2 


As I try to understand this more, the measures should stay in place until we have enough testing capability to tackle this invisible enemy, it's our only asset until a vaccine is found.


There's no point relaxing restrictions until we have enough testing, but at the same time when we have we should try to return to as much normality as we can. As already mentioned a weaker economy puts pressure on the NHS, and everything else.

Brian Gaze
01 April 2020 12:50:34


JFF model going for 3257 confirmed new cases today.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I'm going for 280 to 320 deaths. The UK stats are very odd.


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Bertwhistle
01 April 2020 12:53:48

I was just thinking, not sure what scientific updates are on immunity, but non-pathogenic post-recovery patents, if they are immune and no longer presenting in any form, and fit and well enough, could be set safely to any task, including taking food to people with minimal risk.


Bertie, Itchen Valley.
Retire while you can still press the 'retire now' button.
Roger Parsons
01 April 2020 12:54:13

Flusurvey.
Posters may recall me mentioning Flusurvey a few times on the Forum. This is an on-line weekly questionnaire managed and monitored by Public Health England (PHE) designed to monitor trends of infectious diseases in the community. This week's questionnaire says they have had a good response to their recent call and now have over 10,000 registered participants, but more would be welcome. I know some of you have signed up already - so many thanks for doing that. The focus of the survey, "Influenza-like illnesses", has been adapted and includes COVID-19 symptoms - so participants are playing an active part in that research. Anyone can register and help. It's easy - I've been doing in for some years now - it only takes a few minutes a week and the initial registration is straightforward. If you are not yet contributing I commend it to you as a really handy way of "doing our bit". I would encourage everyone to register and contribute as [unsurprisingly] they need data from healthy as well as infected participants. You don't have to be ill!
Roger

https://flusurvey.net/


 


RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
bledur
01 April 2020 12:58:13


 


Its a fact that nearly everyone who gets it recovers within a week


Boris is now back to normal


 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 I did not know he was normal in the first place so some good news.

The Beast from the East
01 April 2020 13:03:49


 


 


Studies show that successful mutations of other coronaviruses are far more likely to lead to a less deadly strains.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Exactly. viruses only care about surviving, mutating is always to a weaker form to kill less hosts


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Brian Gaze
01 April 2020 13:07:10

8630 tests were carried out yesterday. 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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The Beast from the East
01 April 2020 13:09:03


 


We need to massively expand testing - antigen and antibody - before the lockdown can be lifted. Instead of some elements of the Tory Party wittering on about the economy they would be better advised to expend their energies on sorting out the UK's testing fiasco. How on earth can the lockdown be lifted if we don't really know what is happening? 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The Tory party is at 55% in the polls


Boris could post jiffy bags of his own faeces to every household in the country and the morons would still vote for him


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Rob K
01 April 2020 13:09:20


 


Exactly. viruses only care about surviving, mutating is always to a weaker form to kill less hosts


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I’m sure viruses don’t care about anything. It’s all about random mutations, if they mutate into a form that wipes out all the hosts then it will die out fairly rapidly*, if they mutate into a strain that transmits more efficiently then that strain will dominate. 



*unless it kills them in a sci-fi-friendly way that spreads the disease effectively, such as making them explode and spread virus particles everywhere, for instance...


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Heavy Weather 2013
01 April 2020 13:09:46

The stats are grim today:


4,324 New Cases


563 New Deaths


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
westv
01 April 2020 13:10:57


The stats are grim today:


4,324 New Cases


563 New Deaths


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Ouch!


At least it will be mild!
Justin W
01 April 2020 13:11:27


8630 tests were carried out yesterday. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


So still not up to 10,000.


What disgusting liars.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gavin D
01 April 2020 13:13:46
563 new deaths

4,324 new cases

44% of new cases positive.
Quantum
01 April 2020 13:13:47

Hmm I wonder if the three day periodicity has gone out of phase. Kinda feels like it.


Tommorow was supposed to be the big jump day, not today.


If we get a drop tommorow then it will have gone out of phase for some reason.


 


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Heavy Weather 2013
01 April 2020 13:13:59


 


So still not up to 10,000.


What disgusting liars.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Agreed, they have tried to change the narrative by saying they have the capacity to conduct that many tests. However they have forgotten that they said 10K WOULD be tested.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
John p
01 April 2020 13:17:08


Hmm I wonder if the three day periodicity has gone out of phase. Kinda feels like it.


Tommorow was supposed to be the big jump day, not today.


If we get a drop tommorow then it will have gone out of phase for some reason.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Lets hope tomorrow isn’t the big jump day. 
This probably puts us more onto an Italy type curve again. 


Camberley, Surrey
Maunder Minimum
01 April 2020 13:17:31


 


So still not up to 10,000.


What disgusting liars.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 



Here you go again. I am pretty certain that it is out of the hands of Matthew Hancock or any other government official to mandate 10K or 25K tests.


There certainly needs to be more clarity about the reasons however.


Meanwhile - Israel having big problems with its more religious fruitcakes:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/israeli-police-raid-synagogues-to-enforce-coronavirus-lockdown-q5xrgncqn


"Israeli police wearing masks raided synagogues in Jerusalem and other ultra-Orthodox areas yesterday which have flouted social distancing rules and become coronavirus hotspots.


...


According to analysis carried out by the Israeli health ministry, 24 per cent of confirmed Covid-19 patients were infected in a synagogue, more than in shops or restaurants."


New world order coming.
Quantum
01 April 2020 13:17:47

Here is the model without 3 day periodicity incoperated:



Here it is with the periodicity incoperated.



 


 


The first does okay. The 2nd is well off the mark. But you will see we missed a big jump day 3 days ago.


 


All I'm saying is that before we panic, we should wait for another few days to see what has happened to this 3 day periodicity. Why did we miss a big jump day? Is this the big jump day we missed?


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Brian Gaze
01 April 2020 13:18:57


The stats are grim today:


4,324 New Cases


563 New Deaths


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Jeez. Speechless at that.


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Quantum
01 April 2020 13:19:53

If it has gone out of phase, I'll artificially push it back in phase again in the model.


It does seem to be a bit of a coincidence that we missed a big jump day and now we are getting one a day early.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Brian Gaze
01 April 2020 13:22:07

Coronavirus: Donald Trumps claims UK's initial strategy before lockdown was 'catastrophic'





Speaking at a press conference, Mr Trump criticised the so-called ‘herd immunity’ approach initially adopted by Boris Johnson. 


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-uk-news-latest-deaths-tests-flights-nhs-ventilators/


 





Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
TWO Buzz - get the latest news and views 
"I'm not socialist, I know that. I don't believe in sharing my money." - Gary Numan
Retron
01 April 2020 13:24:21


Hmm I wonder if the three day periodicity has gone out of phase. Kinda feels like it.


Tommorow was supposed to be the big jump day, not today.


If we get a drop tommorow then it will have gone out of phase for some reason.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


That 3-day thing was, IMO, just a statistical quirk - like tossing a coin 4 times and getting 4 heads in a row.


As we're still ascending the bell curve, we have at least a week left of general death increases, IMO.


Leysdown, north Kent
Maunder Minimum
01 April 2020 13:24:58


 


Agreed, they have tried to change the narrative by saying they have the capacity to conduct that many tests. However they have forgotten that they said 10K WOULD be tested.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Think of it in terms of the old Soviet Union and their mythical tractor production figures - the problem is with centralised planning and an unresponsive system - the Commissar says "we will produce 10,000 tractors", but the system only manages to churn out 500 - does not mean the Commissar did not want 10,000 tractors made, but that the system was incapable of doing it. The NHS is a rubbish system for implementing central directives as we have discussed.


 


New world order coming.

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