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John p
05 April 2020 20:08:33

No doubt the anti-Royalists on here will be typically cynical,  but I thought the Queen’s speech was inspirational and the ‘We will meet again’ line was a lovely touch.


 


Camberley, Surrey
Lionel Hutz
05 April 2020 20:09:38

Just wondering how the shops are in the UK. In the last couple of days, supermarkets local to me have started limiting the number of items that a shopper can buy. I'm a bit surprised that they are introducing restrictions now, as I would have thought that panic buying would have ended by now. I know that we are told that there will be no difficulties, but we have found it difficult to find flour in the supermarkets. Not sure why there would be a shortage of flour in particular as everything else seems to be plentiful. However I wonder whether this is indicative of wider problems in the supply chain.
I also wonder whether issues will arise in the autumn given the difficulties for farmers to bring in migrant workers, not just in the UK and Ireland but Europe wide.


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



John p
05 April 2020 20:12:23
Boris admitted to hospital for tests - Sky News
Camberley, Surrey
Heavy Weather 2013
05 April 2020 20:16:17
Boris has been taken to hospital.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
05 April 2020 20:20:28
Boris has been taken to hospital for tests as a precaution

This is a serious worry. As we know these symptoms get progressively worse over time of you do not shake this off quickly.

The PM must immediately step aside to ensure recovery. I am concerned this will now get far more serious.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
05 April 2020 20:24:28

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been admitted to hospital for tests - 10 days after confirming he had contracted coronavirus. Sky News understands Mr Johnson still has persistent symptoms and a high temperature - and was taken to hospital on the advice of his doctor.


 

The admission is said to be a precautionary rather than emergency measure. It is not known whether he will remain in hospital overnight.


 


 


The prime minister is still leading the government response to the COVID-19 outbreak, it is understood. Mr Johnson has been in self-isolation in 11 Downing Street since testing positive.


 


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-prime-minister-admitted-to-hospital-for-coronavirus-tests-11969053

Bolty
05 April 2020 20:24:35

Boris has been taken to hospital for tests as a precaution

This is a serious worry. As we know these symptoms get progressively worse over time of you do not shake this off quickly.

The PM must immediately step aside to ensure recovery. I am concerned this will now get far more serious.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


That's one thing I've noticed too. The first week to ten days of symptoms seems to be fairly mild, before they turn more severe. This proves that isolating for seven days from the beginning of symptoms appearing is nowhere near enough.


I'm wishing Boris a quick recovery though. What a devastating hit it would be for this virus to take the country's leader out!


Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
John p
05 April 2020 20:25:26

Boris has been taken to hospital for tests as a precaution

This is a serious worry. As we know these symptoms get progressively worse over time of you do not shake this off quickly.

The PM must immediately step aside to ensure recovery. I am concerned this will now get far more serious.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


You have to worry this could be serious for him.  You don’t go to hospital in the current situation unless it’s serious, I’m guessing this is for an X-ray to look for pneumonia.


I hope he pulls through - hopefully it’ll make everyone take it seriously.


Camberley, Surrey
Quantum
05 April 2020 20:25:45

Boris has been taken to hospital.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Which means his chances are probably only about 3/4 now.


If it goes as far as ICU it drops to 1/2


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
05 April 2020 20:26:47

This is why this is so nasty. You don't know you just have 'mild symptoms' until more than a week after you have first developed them.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
05 April 2020 20:28:03

*rant alert


What in the name of holy f*ck was that CMO of scotland thinking. And why has she not been sacked yet?


We cannot afford to have the public messaging undermined at such a crucial point in the epidemic. If Sturgeon doesn't sack her then she becomes just as much to blame as the CMO.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gavin D
05 April 2020 20:29:54
Downing Street are insisting this is "not an emergency admission" and simply as a precaution.
Quantum
05 April 2020 20:32:38

Downing Street are insisting this is "not an emergency admission" and simply as a precaution.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


It isn't yet.


But this thing can get bad very suddenly. I've heard of people who have gone from under the weather to dead in the space of a few hours. That's an extreme case, but if he has been taken to hospital then that means he is in that 20% of people who have a serious infection. It means that whether or not he lives is a roll of the dice.


He will probably survive this but this is definitely not a guarantee.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
05 April 2020 20:32:53


*rant alert


What in the name of holy f*ck was that CMO of scotland thinking. And why has she not been sacked yet?


We cannot afford to have the public messaging undermined at such a crucial point in the epidemic. If Sturgeon doesn't sack her then she becomes just as much to blame as the CMO.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I have to agree - instant dismissal was the only credible option.


You can't have a government official saying "do as I say, but not as I do".


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Heavy Weather 2013
05 April 2020 20:33:13

Downing Street are insisting this is "not an emergency admission" and simply as a precaution.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


They have to say that. It would course mass panic if they were clearer. The markets would plummet tomorrow.


However they spin it - any hospital admission of a PM is very serious indeed. It was very clear on Friday he was very unwell.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
05 April 2020 20:33:40
Dominic Raab is expected to chair the Coronavirus meeting in the morning at 09:15

Boris is having ‘routine tests’ and will probably stay in overnight whilst they await the results
David M Porter
05 April 2020 20:35:07


*rant alert


What in the name of holy f*ck was that CMO of scotland thinking. And why has she not been sacked yet?


We cannot afford to have the public messaging undermined at such a crucial point in the epidemic. If Sturgeon doesn't sack her then she becomes just as much to blame as the CMO.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Agree with this, Q. Calderwood has made a big mistake here. We all make mistakes of course but this looks really bad for her in the current circumstances.


She will be fortunate to keep her job in the long run, IMO.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Bugglesgate
05 April 2020 20:36:20


 


You have to worry this could be serious for him.  You don’t go to hospital in the current situation unless it’s serious, I’m guessing this is for an X-ray to look for pneumonia.


I hope he pulls through - hopefully it’ll make everyone take it seriously.


Originally Posted by: John p 


 


We can but hope - not sure anything will get through to the seriously self centred or the hard core numb skull brigade though


Anyway, here's wishing Boris all the best - fingers crossed for him.


 


 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
four
  • four
  • Advanced Member
05 April 2020 20:36:31


Just wondering how the shops are in the UK. In the last couple of days, supermarkets local to me have started limiting the number of items that a shopper can buy. I'm a bit surprised that they are introducing restrictions now, as I would have thought that panic buying would have ended by now. I know that we are told that there will be no difficulties, but we have found it difficult to find flour in the supermarkets. Not sure why there would be a shortage of flour in particular as everything else seems to be plentiful. However I wonder whether this is indicative of wider problems in the supply chain.
I also wonder whether issues will arise in the autumn given the difficulties for farmers to bring in migrant workers, not just in the UK and Ireland but Europe wide.


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


I's the packaging for shop-sized amounts is the issue, bigger bakers get 25kg bags or bulk.
There is no shortage of wheat or flour whatsoever.


Phil G
05 April 2020 20:36:51
In truth, hospital is the last place you would want to go to in this climate and try to avoid at all costs, unless your situation was serious enough.
John p
05 April 2020 20:37:14

Downing Street are insisting this is "not an emergency admission" and simply as a precaution.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I don’t think you go to hospital at 9pm on a Sunday night unless it’s an emergency...


Camberley, Surrey
Quantum
05 April 2020 20:38:14


 


Agree with this, Q. Calderwood has made a big mistake here. We all make mistakes of course but this looks really bad for her in the current circumstances.


She will be fortunate to keep her job in the long run, IMO.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


The other side of this is the public good that comes out of sacking her.


If she is sacked it shows that no one is immune from the law during this crisis. You can turn something bad into something useful. Not sacking her does the exact oppposite.


And I'm sorry but no one is irreplacable. What the hell is the deputy there for?


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gavin D
05 April 2020 20:38:37


 


I don’t think you go to hospital at 9pm on a Sunday night unless it’s an emergency...


Originally Posted by: John p 


 


The rumours started much earlier this evening

John p
05 April 2020 20:41:22


Camberley, Surrey
Bugglesgate
05 April 2020 20:42:02



I's the packaging for shop-sized amounts is the issue, bigger bakers get 25kg bags or bulk.
There is no shortage of wheat or flour whatsoever.


Originally Posted by: four 


 


Interestingly,  our local shop has started stocking industrial sized bog roll.  This kind of thing :-



I suppose with the shut down in industry, there is a surplus.  God knows how you fit it on the bog roll holder though


 


 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"

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