Number dying hits 20-year high

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

What was going on in January 2000?

Originally Posted by: four 

What was going on in January 2000?

Originally Posted by: four 

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It doesn't seem very useful when they are talking 12 months before it might be available.

Originally Posted by: four 

On the contrary, I think that'd be an amazing result. The thread also mentions vaccination of frontline staff at the end of the year.

Originally Posted by: xioni2 

 However, if one is rushed out I suspect many people will want to sit back and see it "tested" on other people before agreeing to have it themselves.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

The WHO warns that few (maybe as few as 2-3%) have developed antibodies to Covid-19

Originally Posted by: xioni2 

I don't think they'd have to as frontline medics would get it first, followed by the most vulnerable people. The 'masses' would get it months later.

Originally Posted by: xioni2 

 It would then raise ethical questions around frontline medics who don't want / refuse it. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Some interesting stuff from the Robert Koch institute this morning:

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4) Despite reports this morning that children are not actually spreading the disease as much as had been thought, Schaade said that intensive tracking showed that children who had contracted the disease in Germany were found to have as much of the virus in their throats as adults, even if they often show no symptoms. He said the RKI believed children played a not-insignificant role in spreading the disease.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

I really doubt that will happen.

Originally Posted by: xioni2 

And that's a very good point , and I think that's the concern of the Government . If relaxed to much everyone will be out and all is forgotten on distancing etc .

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Air Purifiers?
I woke thinking that in particular NHS 30 year olds should not be dying of the virus unless its the amount of exposure and hits they are getting from the infected patients.
It says on a general website about purifiers that there is no evidence they will stop the virus, but have they been tested? On a Dyson model it says "The fully-sealed 360 filter system combines an activated carbon filter to remove gases, and a glass HEPA filter that captures 99.95% of microscopic allergens and pollutants.2 Using Air Multiplier™ technology, the machine projects over 290 liters of smooth, purified air per second for whole-room purification"

I was wondering if a number of purifiers were set up in wards where there were a lot of people and more chance of getting, whether they would go someway in at least taking some of the virus out of the air.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 

Some interesting stuff from the Robert Koch institute this morning:

1) In its first coronavirus briefing this week, Germany’s leading public health body, the Robert Koch Institute said that there was evidence that Covid-19 could damage the heart, kidneys and cause blood clotting. Prof Lars Schaade, the RKI’s vice president, said: “We must systematically examine all the evidence, including through autopsies.”

2) The main aim remained ensuring that the number of cases remained in a “safe zone”, he said. Germany’s reproduction rate is currently 0.9 - up on Friday when it was 0.7 - which means every person contracting the illness is infecting a further person. The number of new cases are currently doubling every 20 days, the number of deaths every 12 days.

3) He said test capacity was currently at 730,000 a week in Germany, but should ideally be around one million, with everyone who has a respiratory illness or infection of the airway getting tested. However, he pointed to practical problems with upscaling testing due to a global lack of reagents.

4) Despite reports this morning that children are not actually spreading the disease as much as had been thought, Schaade said that intensive tracking showed that children who had contracted the disease in Germany were found to have as much of the virus in their throats as adults, even if they often show no symptoms. He said the RKI believed children played a not-insignificant role in spreading the disease.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Welcome to 1984.

Where the government uses taxpayer money to spread propaganda lies to the electorate. 

And Tory supporters - whose reaction we can guess if it were Labour politicians doing the same - just shrug their shoulders. 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

I think I have worked out why the Tories are still polling so high. Its still about Brexit. Those 46% of the population that still want it are all voting Tory with no Farage anymore

Its a cult and Boris is the messiah of this cult

The polling will not shift until we actually see hard Tory Brexit in reality - post transition I mean. Only then, will they realise that the grass is not greener on the other side, and in fact its not only brown, but covered in shit

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

 However, if one is rushed out I suspect many people will want to sit back and see it "tested" on other people before agreeing to have it themselves. It's an interesting scenario. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

But you voted for Brexit yourself didn't you, Beast?

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

Yes, but as they say "There is no point having a mind, if you can't change it"

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East