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Gavin D
25 April 2020 13:06:00
Wales has reported 299 new cases and 23 new deaths
Gavin D
25 April 2020 13:10:06
Breaking: NHS England report 711 new deaths up from 587 yesterday
Chunky Pea
25 April 2020 13:13:32

According to this article, we may have no choice but to 'learn to live with it':


https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-vaccine-may-be-impossible-to-produce-scientists-covid-2020-4?r=US&IR=T


 


 

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The Beast from the East
25 April 2020 13:14:03

I hope Vallance does the press conference today and is reminded of his "good result" prediction.


I see Dr Pangloss is defending the Govt again, but if we are at 20,000 hospital deaths now, we can double that with care home and private home deaths - so at least 40,000.


By the end of this we would easily surpass 100,000

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The Beast from the East
25 April 2020 13:21:36



Darwinism in action


I see Dr Birx is getting a lot of flak for staying silent, but you have to remember this is like a Tudor Court or something out of Game of Thrones.


You step out of line and not only do you lose your job, but get death threats from Trump supporters


Dr Fauci now needs security guards


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
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Gavin D
25 April 2020 13:22:43

Breakdown of the 711 new deaths in England by date



  • 105 on April 24th

  • 236 on April 23rd

  • 66 on April 22nd

  • 235 between April 1st and April 21st

  • 69 in March with one on March 11th

SJV
25 April 2020 13:23:00

Breaking: NHS England report 711 new deaths up from 587 yesterday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I wasn't expecting such a sharp rise today 

Gooner
25 April 2020 13:23:22


I hope Vallance does the press conference today and is reminded of his "good result" prediction.


I see Dr Pangloss is defending the Govt again, but if we are at 20,000 hospital deaths now, we can double that with care home and private home deaths - so at least 40,000.


By the end of this we would easily surpass 100,000


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Oh easily and without the numbers from care homes and private homes we will hit 40,000 - 50,000 id say 


'If' we were to drop from week to week on average by 100 from now we will have hit nearly 40,000


so this week 7 days of 700 then 7 days of 600 and so on you can see how these numbers add up 

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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llamedos
25 April 2020 13:23:57
That would have been a very painful death, assuming they didn't survive it. Presumably self-administered rather victims of domestic abuse ?

"Life with the Lions"

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Gandalf The White
25 April 2020 13:24:19


 


This is my worry with the home testing. If they’re as invasive as this (the UK drive through one i saw on tv fits your description (going so far up the nose, they’re almost sampling brain tissue!), I can’t see the typical home using performing these properly which will probably result in many false negative tests. 


Originally Posted by: John p 


On TV several weeks ago it was explained by a scientist that you have to get a sample from as far down as possible because the virus attacks the lower respiratory tract and there was a higher risk of the swab not detecting the virus if you just go for the mouth, nose and throat.

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Retron
25 April 2020 13:24:46



  • 69 in March with one on March 11th


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I do wonder why it's taking three and a half weeks or more to come up with these figures! I wonder if other countries are experiencing month+ lags too (wrt the 11th March death).

Leysdown, north Kent
Gandalf The White
25 April 2020 13:26:49


 


I wasn't expecting such a sharp rise today 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


That's the problem with the daily figures. The analysis shows a lot of catching up still, 10% from March.


Only barely 100 yesterday looks like the trend downwards continues.

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Gandalf The White
25 April 2020 13:28:16


I hope Vallance does the press conference today and is reminded of his "good result" prediction.


I see Dr Pangloss is defending the Govt again, but if we are at 20,000 hospital deaths now, we can double that with care home and private home deaths - so at least 40,000.


By the end of this we would easily surpass 100,000


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Was I defending it? I think you need to brush up on your comprehension skills. I was making an observation on the state of play versus his guess.


Or perhaps don't post when you've been drinking?

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SJV
25 April 2020 13:28:20


 


That's the problem with the daily figures. The analysis shows a lot of catching up still, 10% from March.


Only barely 100 yesterday looks like the trend downwards continues.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Yes understood  I'll post the 'deaths by actual day' chart when it is published. Still a disturbing figure to read though.

llamedos
25 April 2020 13:28:54


 


I do wonder why it's taking three and a half weeks or more to come up with these figures! I wonder if other countries are experiencing month+ lags too (wrt the 11th March death).


Originally Posted by: Retron 

It is distorting and will continue to distort "daily" updates and makes graphs rather than for trend purposes somewhat irrelevant IMO.

"Life with the Lions"

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RobN
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25 April 2020 13:29:07

Another health issue to worry about whilst taking your outdoor exercise during lockdown...



Lyme disease lockdown alert as more venture outdoors - symptoms to look for and how to safely remove a tick



Lyme Disease UK says good weather and closure of indoor leisure facilities could put more people at risk of being bitten. Wake Up to Lyme campaign to be launched in May


https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/cheltenham-news/lyme-disease-lockdown-alert-more-4074140

Rob
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Gavin D
25 April 2020 13:31:58

Like for like on the last 3 Saturday's



  • 711 - 25th 

  • 784 - 18th

  • 823 - 11th 

John p
25 April 2020 13:32:55


 


I do wonder why it's taking three and a half weeks or more to come up with these figures! I wonder if other countries are experiencing month+ lags too (wrt the 11th March death).


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I wonder if these ones are involving post mortems or other enquiries. I read today there’s been an alarming rise in young stroke victims in the US that have later been attributed to Covid19 causing clotting in the blood. 

Camberley, Surrey
John p
25 April 2020 13:35:01


 


That's the problem with the daily figures. The analysis shows a lot of catching up still, 10% from March.


Only barely 100 yesterday looks like the trend downwards continues.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


But it’s not as simple to just say ‘only barely 100 yesterday’, as over the next few weeks there will be deaths attributed to yesterday’s date, on a daily basis. 

Camberley, Surrey
JHutch
25 April 2020 13:36:40

Chart below showing what day the deaths occurred on. A substantial number from late march through until 7th april. Looking at the figures there has been far more back-filling going on this week than previous ones. Still hundreds from the last few days though.


 



The Beast from the East
25 April 2020 13:37:00


 


But it’s not as simple to just say ‘only barely 100 yesterday’, as over the next few weeks there will be deaths attributed to yesterday’s date, on a daily basis. 


Originally Posted by: John p 


Yes that's true, but he is now Govt spinner in chief

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gandalf The White
25 April 2020 13:39:20


 


But it’s not as simple to just say ‘only barely 100 yesterday’, as over the next few weeks there will be deaths attributed to yesterday’s date, on a daily basis. 


Originally Posted by: John p 


I never suggested that, did I? I'm fully aware of the way the reporting pattern works. I was simply pointing out that the figure for yesterday was only just over 100, which I think follows the recent pattern.


 


Edit: having had a chance to look at the table above, the totals at the foot of each column are the only ones that are relevant: the trend is clear enough (obviously you don't look at the last 3-4 days too closely).

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The Beast from the East
25 April 2020 13:39:33


 


 


one of my many mottos in life....whatever Allison Pearson says, take the opposite point of view...she of the sneering comments about Angela Rayners as she left schools early without qualifications 


Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 


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"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
25 April 2020 13:42:33


 


I never suggested that, did I? I'm fully aware of the way the reporting pattern works. I was simply pointing out that the figure for yesterday was only just over 100, which I think follows the recent pattern.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


The trend is down, I will give you that. But its still not a good place to be in as pressure is now building like a pressure cooker from the popular press to ease lockdown


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President

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