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The Beast from the East
08 May 2020 20:13:03


These silly VE Day 'celebrations' are the death knell of 'lockdown'.


Cretins having street parties as an excuse to get p*ssed with other people again.


I fully expect to see a spike in cases, hospitalisations and deaths in 2-3 weeks.


I just hope there isn't a scaling back of the relaxation of restrictions that help the economy.


Saving lives should be the priority, followed by keeping as many parts of the economy functioning as possible. 


People having a p*ss-up that trivialises a catastrophic world war should be way, way down the pecking order. 


Sadly, our nationalist right-wing media have fanned the nationalist flames for such celebrations (encouraging neighbourly get-togethers and printing stupid posters), and our nationalist, right-wing government seems happy to sit back and reap the nationalist harvest Regardless of the consequences.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Agree Saint! As fairweather said, seems to be a lot of George cross flags around, rather than Union Jacks. Seems like English nationalism is on the march and anti-Scotland and anti London feeling over Brexit as well. The atmosphere in this area felt a bit nasty and gammon flavoured. These people are actually looking forward to a no deal Brexit! Morons!


(BTW, I answered your Star Trek question last night, not sure if you saw it. Also remembered the name of the character - Jack. )

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The Beast from the East
08 May 2020 20:17:08


Cannot help but feel that the Kent figures are skewed because of those arriving on a fairly frequent basis from the migrant camps near Calais. It is well known that those camps are centres of contagion and every migrant picked up by the border force is tested as a matter of routine.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


How many migrants have come? And who says it is "well known" the camps are centres of contagion? Mr Facebook or Mr Guido (Shit) Stains?

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Polar Low
08 May 2020 20:19:01

We also had fireworks one rocket hit my patio window head on like a miss-fire my  three 8 stone Bernese mountain dogs want to sort the culprit out so hoping for not many of those I had a apology but it’s really best to keep away when big dogs get in protection mode.


I’m not impressed with these celebrations surly it could have been arranged to celebrate VE and beating virus at a safer date.




The most ridiculous thing is, I’m waging most of those reveling probably don’t even know what VE Day is about!  I’m sat out on our veranda and I can hear fireworks and singing, not ‘we’ll meet again’, it sounds more like pub turning out time after an England football match!  


Originally Posted by: Caz 

RobN
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08 May 2020 20:24:53


 


How many migrants have come? And who says it is "well known" the camps are centres of contagion? Mr Facebook or Mr Guido (Shit) Stains?


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Well the Guardian is reporting it - so it must be true - or false - I'm not sure which  


Covid-19 spreading quickly through refugee camps, warn Calais aid groups


With over 1,000 refugees and migrants left without proper sanitation, water supplies or food there is no way to contain virus, say volunteers


https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/apr/09/covid-19-spreading-quickly-though-refugee-camps-warn-calais-aid-groups


 

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Phil G
08 May 2020 20:32:25


 


We had one in the road.


Odd affair - we  strictly maintained 2-Meter distance / household. We brought our own chairs and cups of tea.  A neighbour did some cakes that we went up and helped ourselves to them  one at a time -  we have to hope she isn't infected or  implemented  a strict hygiene regime once they were cooked.


I agree though that  in general  the wheels have come off the whole shooting match.   it's pretty well nailed on the infection rate is going to be headed north  again in 3 weeks time.  We will then be totally stuffed as the choice will be  a massive clamp down or watch the NHS go under and the death rate from Coronavirus and everything else that isn't being treated hit the stratosphere.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


Well I suppose people have different accounts of today. We saw it as a 'nice distraction', got to know some neighbours we never really talked to before today. All with keeping the 2m rule. In all I took a positive out of today.


As for the scum who didn't comply with today's rules still. I suspect they don't recognise the rules every day in truth.


Today we still acknowledged those still alive who gave our today. Most if not all won't be around the next time we acknowledge anything like this. 


I have taken a small crumb out of all the bad news, all the negativity that surrounds us for whatever reason.


It was good to have a day outside, still safe, a bit of positivity through all the gloom.

JHutch
08 May 2020 20:34:45

Anyone coming to Britain to be quarantined for two weeks if the Times is right 


 



RobN
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08 May 2020 20:37:36

For the first time during this crisis. It appears we almost have consensus that the lockdown has well and truly broken down.

The seeds were sown by those briefings from HMG.

I fear we will be back to square one in three weeks.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Yes lots of shenanigans here locally - even a party in the car park of care home opposite for residents - with staff handing out cakes to passers by. Many local residents had "tea" parties in their front gardens and welcoming visitors with not much sign of recommended social distancing.


The sounds of local revelry still going on now.


As you say it will be interesting to see what the effect will be in three weeks time.

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Roger Parsons
08 May 2020 20:42:37


Today we still acknowledged those still alive who gave our today. Most if not all won't be around the next time we acknowledge anything like this. 


I have taken a small crumb out of all the bad news, all the negativity that surrounds us for whatever reason.


It was good to have a day outside, still safe, a bit of positivity through all the gloom.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


I'd go along with that, Phil.


RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
CreweCold
08 May 2020 20:52:00


 


We had one in the road.


Odd affair - we  strictly maintained 2-Meter distance / household. We brought our own chairs and cups of tea.  A neighbour did some cakes that we went up and helped ourselves to them  one at a time -  we have to hope she isn't infected or  implemented  a strict hygiene regime once they were cooked.


I agree though that  in general  the wheels have come off the whole shooting match.   it's pretty well nailed on the infection rate is going to be headed north  again in 3 weeks time.  We will then be totally stuffed as the choice will be  a massive clamp down or watch the NHS go under and the death rate from Coronavirus and everything else that isn't being treated hit the stratosphere.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


I'm of the opinion that it will come to the point of a strictly policed lock down with the army involved. It's looking inevitable at some point over the next 6-7 months. The NHS simply won't be left to sink.


Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
SJV
08 May 2020 21:04:08
A few socially distanced folk sitting out in their yards today on our street. I have noticed the crescent road adjoining ours have had a larger party which through the evening has seemingly got busier and less 'distanced'. From my rear window I can see about 15-20 adults certainly not 2m apart. Kids zooming about on bikes and scooters as well.
Saint Snow
08 May 2020 21:22:29


(BTW, I answered your Star Trek question last night, not sure if you saw it. Also remembered the name of the character - Jack. )


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 



I didn't check - because I forgot


But yes, correct. A hyperactive, arrogant git who was always convinced he was right and everyone else wrong.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
08 May 2020 21:27:52


Anyone coming to Britain to be quarantined for two weeks if the Times is right 


 




Originally Posted by: JHutch 


 


I wonder if they'll apply it to the dozens of jet-setting super-wealthy who arrive in the UK daily?


Or will money also buy them quarantine passes to circumvent what the plebs have to endure?


https://www.standard.co.uk/insider/living/private-jet-travel-coronavirus-uk-a4418406.html


 


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
08 May 2020 21:36:22

Went out to get the Friday Chinese takeaway for us earlier. Saw 3 separate gatherings on the estate (plus a few more outside on the way the way to the Chinese). Seemed on the face to be mostly adhering to social distancing, apart from kids I know aren't in the same household were playing together.


Took the dog for a last walk about an hour ago round the estate and the social distancing was just a vague memory, with household groups that had been separate a couple hours previous now all sat close together, the drink continuing to flow and music now louder. Some bellends were in union jack-themed clothing and idiotic flags were everywhere.


Couldn't help but whiff gammon (even with the younger families).


The biggest irony was these people had, alongside the nationalist emblems that they were using to justify flicking two fingers at social distancing & other protective restrictions, posters supporting the NHS and rainbows. This country is so cretinous.


 


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Heavy Weather 2013
08 May 2020 21:43:33


Went out to get the Friday Chinese takeaway for us earlier. Saw 3 separate gatherings on the estate (plus a few more outside on the way the way to the Chinese). Seemed on the face to be mostly adhering to social distancing, apart from kids I know aren't in the same household were playing together.


Took the dog for a last walk about an hour ago round the estate and the social distancing was just a vague memory, with household groups that had been separate a couple hours previous now all sat close together, the drink continuing to flow and music now louder. Some bellends were in union jack-themed clothing and idiotic flags were everywhere.


Couldn't help but whiff gammon (even with the younger families).


The biggest irony was these people had, alongside the nationalist emblems that they were using to justify flicking two fingers at social distancing & other protective restrictions, posters supporting the NHS and rainbows. This country is so cretinous.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


And on Sunday the PM will waffle on about how well everyone has done and those same people will give themselves a pat on the back and salute him.


Disgusting.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Ulric
08 May 2020 22:00:10


Anyone coming to Britain to be quarantined for two weeks if the Times is right 


 




Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Anyone coming to the UK right now ought to be quarantined on mental health grounds IMO.

To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
fairweather
08 May 2020 22:02:30


 


Well I suppose people have different accounts of today. We saw it as a 'nice distraction', got to know some neighbours we never really talked to before today. All with keeping the 2m rule. In all I took a positive out of today.


As for the scum who didn't comply with today's rules still. I suspect they don't recognise the rules every day in truth.


Today we still acknowledged those still alive who gave our today. Most if not all won't be around the next time we acknowledge anything like this. 


I have taken a small crumb out of all the bad news, all the negativity that surrounds us for whatever reason.


It was good to have a day outside, still safe, a bit of positivity through all the gloom.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Similar with us. It was a bit torturous listening to some of the rubbish that some were coming out with, mostly defending the Government but not as political as I had feared. I played Glen Miller music and one of our neighbours set up with 40's favourites which was good. Ended up with their son playing "modern" music but that was fair enough.The social distancing started off well but then gradually the gatherings got condensed to a couple of houses with the "drinkers" and as that started getting nearer 1 metre than two I called it a day.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Ulric
08 May 2020 22:22:45

To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Gusty
08 May 2020 22:30:08

Boozy Britain will find any excuse to have a piss up. Today wasn't about 75 years since VE day it was an excuse to get pissed and push boundaries....simple as.


Cup of tea and slice of cake in the garden at 4pm ?...whatever.


I couldn't believe the scenes in my quiet road with clusters of neighbours all mingling til way after 7pm with their kids screaming and whizzing about on their bikes.


A true debacle of a day IMO that could have easily and respectably been toned down and still acknowledged.

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CreweCold
08 May 2020 22:34:01


Boozy Britain will find any excuse to have a piss up. Today wasn't about 75 years since VE day it was an excuse to get pissed and push boundaries....simple as.


Cup of tea and slice of cake in the garden at 4pm ?...whatever.


I couldn't believe the scenes in my quiet road with clusters of neighbours all mingling til way after 7pm with their kids screaming and whizzing about on their bikes.


A true debacle of a day IMO that could have easily and respectably toned down and still acknowledged.


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


One person has COVID and spreads it around to 4-5 others who will probably go on to do the same and then you multiply this x amount of times. Meaning in 3 weeks time we'll be back to square one.


I don't understand how some people can be so simple. It's scary.


Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
Gusty
08 May 2020 22:40:01


 One person has COVID and spreads it around to 4-5 others who will probably go on to do the same and then you multiply this x amount of times. Meaning in 3 weeks time we'll be back to square one.


I don't understand how some people can be so simple. It's scary.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


Image may contain: outdoor, possible text that says 'THE FIRE HAS PASSED IT'S PEAK. YOU CAN GO BACK IN NOW!'

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CreweCold
08 May 2020 22:42:16


 


Image may contain: outdoor, possible text that says 'THE FIRE HAS PASSED IT'S PEAK. YOU CAN GO BACK IN NOW!'


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Exactly.


It's just our luck the weather hasn't played ball over lockdown. Any other time it'd be 12c and pissing down.


Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
Saint Snow
08 May 2020 22:45:18


 


One person has COVID and spreads it around to 4-5 others who will probably go on to do the same and then you multiply this x amount of times. Meaning in 3 weeks time we'll be back to square one.


I don't understand how some people can be so simple. It's scary.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


 


I wholeheartedly agree with you.


Idiocy.


 


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Gandalf The White
08 May 2020 23:03:39


 


One person has COVID and spreads it around to 4-5 others who will probably go on to do the same and then you multiply this x amount of times. Meaning in 3 weeks time we'll be back to square one.


I don't understand how some people can be so simple. It's scary.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


Except the R value isn't 4 or 5, so your prediction fails.


Yes, people getting too close increases the risk but for your dire forecast to be close we would have to see today's worst case scenes playing out everywhere and every day. I don't think that's where we are yet. Round here everyone is still following the rules and keeping more or less two metres apart, even on the viallage green this morning.


As for people being simple, there have been enough examples over the last 7-8 weeks. It shouldn't be a surprise any longer: there are some muppets who will always choose to misbehave and be antisocial.


 

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The Beast from the East
08 May 2020 23:40:59


 


Anyone coming to the UK right now ought to be quarantined on mental health grounds IMO.


Originally Posted by: Ulric 


Indeed, unless of course you are a returning national. But how do they enforce this?


THey don't have the resources to investigate burglaries and muggings, how are they going to check people aren't breaking quarantine?


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
08 May 2020 23:49:58


Some bellends were in union jack-themed clothing and idiotic flags were everywhere.


Couldn't help but whiff gammon (even with the younger families).


The biggest irony was these people had, alongside the nationalist emblems that they were using to justify flicking two fingers at social distancing & other protective restrictions, posters supporting the NHS and rainbows. This country is so cretinous.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


A lot of them see Brexit as Victory over Europe. This is disturbingly similar to the US culture wars, where Patriotism is conflated with superiority and society is divided into "good" citizens and "liberal traitors"

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President

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