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fairweather
11 May 2020 15:16:13

Guy on BBC news special just said could play singles tennis against someone OUTSIDE your household. Has he got that right as first I have heard.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Yes, that is correct. Is in the new guidelines. Again people need to understand that provided there is no cross transmission. 

S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
11 May 2020 15:17:26


 


I don’t believe that is correct, you can play with someone in your own household only. 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Wrong!

S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
11 May 2020 15:19:33

Where are we on the tory blame-dodging timeline? Looking like moving from Stage 2 to Stage 3 by the posts today?

1. Before the event - "well it's too early to tell / scaremongering / we have procedures in place"
2. At the time of the event - "now is not the time / rally round"
3. After the event - "well hindsight is always 20-20 / easy to criticise / lessons will be learned "

Originally Posted by: noodle doodle 


S.Essex, 42m ASL
speckledjim
11 May 2020 15:25:02


 


Wrong!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


I know!

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Saint Snow
11 May 2020 15:25:14


 I never denied saying it, I merely said it was not intended to mean back to normal in the pre COVID sense.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


 


Oh lordy. At risk of being sucked into the vortex of another such 'debate', you did indeed deny saying it.


If everyone had done what they were told during the lockdown we would be virtually back to normal by now.

Quantum wrote:


We wouldn't have been 'virtually back to normal' because the measures taken weren't designed to eliminate the virus, merely to contain it.

GtW wrote:


I never said back to normal. I said back to February type conditions which is definitely possible

Quantum wrote:


You'd never made mention of 'February type conditions' up until that point.


 


Like I said, if you'd have just corrected yourself or clarified in that reply to GtW's reply to your original assertion, we all could have saved ourself some bother.


 


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xioni2
11 May 2020 15:25:54

In Paris, commuters who use the Metro in rush hour would need to have a letter from their employers explaining why they need to use the metro at that time of the day.

Polar Low
11 May 2020 15:26:14

Can you play doubles Tennis btw



 


I know!


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

xioni2
11 May 2020 15:32:46

CV-19 is no longer an epidemic in UK
Originally Posted by: four 

">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-no-longer-epidemic-uk-oxford-study-finds-cases-falling/


I could believe this, most of our new cases could be from care homes (shameful).


 

fairweather
11 May 2020 15:33:03

Been watching PM answering questions in the House live. He is struggling somewhat to answer apart from the  friendly set up ones. He has got quite flustered a couple of times. I think one of the problems is he can't use his usual cheeky chap jokey routine on this subject. The one he is clearly lying about and not answering is the fact that he did not discuss the new measures with the devolved governments. His only answer was to keep saying that they could make their own decisions because they have different R values. But surely they are lower in many of the devolved regions so why would they make them stricter than England?


edit: Just said we are currently getting "billions of pieces of PPE to where they are needed". Billions? Honestly?

S.Essex, 42m ASL
ozone_aurora
11 May 2020 15:35:13

Coronavirus: Cover faces in some public areas, people in England told


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52620556.

(Sorry if it's already posted.)

Maunder Minimum
11 May 2020 15:36:09


Been watching PM answering questions in the House live. He is struggling somewhat to answer apart from the  friendly set up ones. He has got quite flustered a couple of times. I think one of the problems is he can't use his usual cheeky chap jokey routine on this subject. The one he is clearly lying about and not answering is the fact that he did not discuss the new measures with the devolved governments. His only answer was to keep saying that they could make their own decisions because they have different R values. But surely they are lower in many of the devolved regions so why would they make them stricter than England?


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


According to the latest stats, Scotland and Wales have a higher infection rate per capita than England at the moment (especially Wales).


Northern Ireland is doing best, so I am not sure why they are holding back.


New world order coming.
ozone_aurora
11 May 2020 15:37:07

CV-19 is no longer an epidemic in UK
Originally Posted by: four 

">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-no-longer-epidemic-uk-oxford-study-finds-cases-falling/


There is a spelling/typo mistake. 

John p
11 May 2020 15:37:35

CV-19 is no longer an epidemic in UK
Originally Posted by: four 

">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-no-longer-epidemic-uk-oxford-study-finds-cases-falling/


Yes, and the last three months shows us it will be an epidemic again if we relax too many measures.  But by all means imply this is all a fuss over nothing as you usually do. 

Camberley, Surrey
Phil G
11 May 2020 15:41:00


Been watching PM answering questions in the House live. He is struggling somewhat to answer apart from the  friendly set up ones. He has got quite flustered a couple of times. I think one of the problems is he can't use his usual cheeky chap jokey routine on this subject. The one he is clearly lying about and not answering is the fact that he did not discuss the new measures with the devolved governments. His only answer was to keep saying that they could make their own decisions because they have different R values. But surely they are lower in many of the devolved regions so why would they make them stricter than England?


edit: Just said we are currently getting "billions of pieces of PPE to where they are needed". Billions? Honestly?


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


TBH I have turned it over and watching Tipping Point. Been doing that for a while with updates and announcements as you get the important headlines later. Better for the mental wellbeing having a break from this surreal nightmare.

fairweather
11 May 2020 15:43:10


 


According to the latest stats, Scotland and Wales have a higher infection rate per capita than England at the moment (especially Wales).


Northern Ireland is doing best, so I am not sure why they are holding back.



Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Fair comment then for Scotland but surely he should have consulted?

S.Essex, 42m ASL
xioni2
11 May 2020 15:43:27


">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-no-longer-epidemic-uk-oxford-study-finds-cases-falling/


Yes, and the last three months shows us it will be an epidemic again if we relax too many measures.  But by all means imply this is all a fuss over nothing as you usually do. 


Originally Posted by: John p 


four probably thinks that something like 30-50% of our population has been infected, so we are very close to immunity, which will be eternal and will protect us from all future pathogens too.


Brian Gaze
11 May 2020 15:48:18

CV-19 is no longer an epidemic in UK
Originally Posted by: four 

">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-no-longer-epidemic-uk-oxford-study-finds-cases-falling/


Interestingly it includes this nugget:


Separate work at the Government's Porton Down laboratories to find out how many people have had the virus and recovered is ongoing.


 

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Saint Snow
11 May 2020 15:55:49


 



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Caz
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11 May 2020 15:56:41


Can you play doubles Tennis btw


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

  Yes, if three of you are from the same household!  

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Chidog
11 May 2020 16:03:43


  Yes, if three of you are from the same household!  


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Then the fourth player would be breaking social distancing rules by meeting three others 

ozone_aurora
11 May 2020 16:05:32

While cases have gone down a lot there are still pockets of infections persisting.


https://covid.joinzoe.com/data.

Too early to start lifting the lockdown IMO. Certainly, I think everyone should err on the side of caution.


 

Darren S
11 May 2020 16:11:37


While cases have gone down a lot there are still pockets of infections persisting.


https://covid.joinzoe.com/data.

Too early to start lifting the lockdown IMO. Certainly, I think everyone should err on the side of caution.


 


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


If you look at the graph of estimated number of infections, you can see that for the first time since 1st April, the total ticked up when comparing today with yesterday.


https://covid.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time


Maybe it's just an anomaly (I also notice that the number of contributors has suddenly surged from about 3 million to 3.5 million in a day, so that might have an effect), but the pessimist might say that it's the onset of symptoms after VE Day.

Darren
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Gavin D
11 May 2020 16:12:46

Regional data for new cases today in England


The 7 English regions 



  • London +62 (0.2%) 25,891

  • Midlands + 186 (0.8%) 22,688

  • North West +168 (0.7%) 22,510

  • North East and Yorkshire +202 (0.9%) 21,410

  • South East +107 (0.6%) 19,344

  • East of England +94 (0.8%) 12,295

  • South West +38 (0.5%) 7,044


The 10 local areas with the highest cases



  1. Kent +50 (1.2%) 4,191

  2. Lancashire +26 (0.8%) 3,167

  3. Birmingham +22 (0.7%) 3,125

  4. Hampshire +11 (0.4%) 3,032

  5. Essex +33 (1.1%) 2,907

  6. Surrey +4 (0.1%) 2,759

  7. Hertfordshire +14 (0.5%) 2,603

  8. Sheffield +22 (0.9%) 2,376

  9. Cumbria +11 (0.5%) 2,115

  10. Staffordshire +18 (0.9%) 1,979


The 10 local areas with the lowest cases



  1. Rutland +1 (3.8%) 26

  2. North East Lincolnshire +1 (0.7%) 140

  3. Isle of Wight -1 (154)

  4. Torbay 210 - No change

  5. Bath and North East Somerset +1 (0.4%) 223

  6. Bracknell Forest +1 (0.4%) 231

  7. Hartlepool 231 - No change

  8. Windsor and Maidenhead +1 (0.4%) 274

  9. Calderdale 274 - No change

  10. Peterborough 295 - No change

Gavin D
11 May 2020 16:15:15


UK data



  • Total tests - 100,490

  • People tested - 65,337

  • Positive tests - 3,877

  • All setting deaths - 210 (goes against NHS England data of 209 I sense a mess up again)


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 


Confirmed rate for positive tests has fallen to 5.93%

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