Just had something similar from Hillier's. Best of British to them with that. I'll be sticking to online. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

I'll repeat my wild prediction from a month ago: most people will never catch this virus.

Originally Posted by: xioni2 

We are over a month now past its peak, and the virus had been running rampant even longer. So its  not inconceivable that potential infections past & present could be in the 10's of millions by now. 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Actually, Hillier’s are the best of British.  By Royal Appointment!  I used to work for them many moons ago.  

Got my silly head on today!  I blame lockdown!  

Originally Posted by: Caz 

Only today 

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

Exactly the point.  Going to the pub now could mean a 2% risk of dying and a hangover to boot. Not exactly an appealing offer IMHO. Beast and Tim Martin may of course think otherwise.  

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

How do you reconcile that with the figures Vallance revealed yesterday? Based on antibody testing the estimate is 4% past infections for the UK exc London and 10% for London.  

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

You are of course far more likely to die of liver disease or getting run over staggering home

And there is actually quite a high risk of getting mugged outside or beaten up inside. 

Since Christmas, the police have been called 8 times to fights and violent incidents in my pub alone! In February some chavs smashed the TV up, so we couldn't watch the 6 nations rugby at all, let alone any news, but at least the Wifi still worked!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Agree with Hancock. Not sure what Ryan Air is playing at. 

Britons are unlikely to be able to go on foreign summer holidays this year, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said.

Asked whether "summer was cancelled", he told ITV's This Morning: "I think that's likely to be the case. We haven't made a final decision on that yet but it is clear that we will seek to reopen hospitality, some hospitality, from early July if we keep successfully reducing the spread of this virus...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-government-guidance-boris-johnson-lockdown/

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

ONS estimates were from a much larger sample pool i think. I suspect the more anti body test that get done those estimates will increase.

However in those figures you give  around 4 million have antibodies.

Also if i recall correctly antibodies take around 3 weeks to appear once over an infection.. 

Pure conceptualisation here but those who tested positive in those antibody test would have been infected before the peak. 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Fauci to warn on risk of opening US economy too soon

Originally Posted by: RobN 

So the moral of the story is:  get some decent specs so you can see it zipping by!  

Seriously, I’ve had varifocals for a while and have had no problem. You just have to remember to move your head up and down to switch from close to distant and not just your eyes.  

Originally Posted by: Caz 

I'm not too sure about this drive as far as you like so long as you go home that day. People are going to take that as licence to drive anywhere for any reason. 

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

He is likely to get sacked for talking to CNN as well

He gets death threats from Trump supporters and needs security, unlike the lady Dr Birx, who has shown herself to be a stooge, like Whitty and Vallance

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Jeez!  Your ‘Spoon’s sounds rough!  The one I go to is much more civil!  

Originally Posted by: Caz 

But I doubt restaurants and bars would be open (perhaps outside seating ones would be?), and I don't think we'd get the full France experience.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

So the moral of the story is:  get some decent specs so you can see it zipping by!  

Seriously, I’ve had varifocals for a while and have had no problem. You just have to remember to move your head up and down to switch from close to distant and not just your eyes.  

Originally Posted by: Caz 

Why particularly? Children have a miniscule risk from COVID-19.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

I've still got a ferry crossing booked in late July to Le Havre. We were looking to finalise booking a villa in the Vendee just before CV19 hit so we put it on hold. Now it looks like it might be possible - France is waiving its 14-day quarantine for UK (and Schengen) travellers and whispers are that July 24th will be the day for significant scaling back of restrictions there. Plenty of available property!

Driving there (overnight cabin on the ferry) is the safest way, from a CV19 perspective, and we'd be staying in a villa with its own pool and about 500m walk to the beach through countryside/forest.

But I doubt restaurants and bars would be open (perhaps outside seating ones would be?), and I don't think we'd get the full France experience.

A fair bit to pay for a week of sunshine and moderate heat. This has actually made me think hard about the cost-benefit of a week away. I tend to just allocate a chunk of outgoings to the main holiday each year as an inevitable cost, and in the past 3 years we've had two 'bumper' special holidays that have been fantastic experiences for all of us that I'd not want to swap. But a 'normal' holiday that's going to cost north of £3.5k? Like I say, it's got me questioning the spend.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

I've still got a ferry crossing booked in late July to Le Havre. We were looking to finalise booking a villa in the Vendee just before CV19 hit so we put it on hold. Now it looks like it might be possible - France is waiving its 14-day quarantine for UK (and Schengen) travellers and whispers are that July 24th will be the day for significant scaling back of restrictions there. Plenty of available property!

Driving there (overnight cabin on the ferry) is the safest way, from a CV19 perspective, and we'd be staying in a villa with its own pool and about 500m walk to the beach through countryside/forest.

But I doubt restaurants and bars would be open (perhaps outside seating ones would be?), and I don't think we'd get the full France experience.

A fair bit to pay for a week of sunshine and moderate heat. This has actually made me think hard about the cost-benefit of a week away. I tend to just allocate a chunk of outgoings to the main holiday each year as an inevitable cost, and in the past 3 years we've had two 'bumper' special holidays that have been fantastic experiences for all of us that I'd not want to swap. But a 'normal' holiday that's going to cost north of £3.5k? Like I say, it's got me questioning the spend.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

I've still got a ferry crossing booked in late July to Le Havre. We were looking to finalise booking a villa in the Vendee just before CV19 hit so we put it on hold. Now it looks like it might be possible - France is waiving its 14-day quarantine for UK (and Schengen) travellers and whispers are that July 24th will be the day for significant scaling back of restrictions there. Plenty of available property!

Driving there (overnight cabin on the ferry) is the safest way, from a CV19 perspective, and we'd be staying in a villa with its own pool and about 500m walk to the beach through countryside/forest.

But I doubt restaurants and bars would be open (perhaps outside seating ones would be?), and I don't think we'd get the full France experience.

A fair bit to pay for a week of sunshine and moderate heat. This has actually made me think hard about the cost-benefit of a week away. I tend to just allocate a chunk of outgoings to the main holiday each year as an inevitable cost, and in the past 3 years we've had two 'bumper' special holidays that have been fantastic experiences for all of us that I'd not want to swap. But a 'normal' holiday that's going to cost north of £3.5k? Like I say, it's got me questioning the spend.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow