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Gavin D
14 May 2020 16:33:21
JVT anticipates the antibodies test will be rapidly rolled out in the days and weeks ahead care homes and NHS will be the first to get it
fairweather
14 May 2020 16:35:44

Briefing. Lot of self congratulation still.  So is the statement that Shapp made that we have 25% of all deaths are from care homes where it is 50% in the rest of Europe? i think that's what he saidbut I would like to see it fact checked.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
14 May 2020 17:11:54

They do draw some strange conclusions in the media. On the six o'clock BBC News - A&E departments are widely at 50% of usual demand due to people scared to come into hospital for fear of getting the virus. Have they ever been in an A&E. Try less industrial accidents, playground accidents and road traffic accidents. Also no pubs and clubs open and no sports injuries. These I guess would be at least 80% of the normal admissions.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Rob K
14 May 2020 17:17:54


 


Any more risky than supermarkets and public transport? I feel very sorry for people who are working in these sectors. On the last two occasions I have been to Tesco, an idiot was walking around coughing everywhere. He may not have had it, but whatever he did have was being spread around and most people, including me, were not wearing masks


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


My wife went out on a bike ride on the river path the other evening, where there were lots of insects, one of which she ended up swallowing. She reported that the ensuing coughing fit was very effective in encouraging passers-by to observe social distancing 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Rob K
14 May 2020 17:22:24


Briefing. Lot of self congratulation still.  So is the statement that Shapp made that we have 25% of all deaths are from care homes where it is 50% in the rest of Europe? i think that's what he saidbut I would like to see it fact checked.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Or alternatively "Three times as many people in the general population are dying from the virus as vulnerable people in care homes. In the rest of Europe it's only the same number as die in care homes." Aren't statistics great...?


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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JHutch
14 May 2020 17:23:32

Some of the recent outbreaks in Germany have been in meat processing plants


'Since the end of April, COVID-19 outbreaks were also reported in meat processing plants in Baden-Wuerttemberg, North Rhine-Westphalia and Schleswig-Holstein, with case numbers ranging from 100 to 350.'


Yesterday's R-number was estimated at 0.81, today's estimate not available yet.


https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-05-13-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile


 


Re: meat processing plants and coronavirus, interesting article below linking it to overcrowded accommodation and transport


https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/12/covid-19-outbreaks-in-german-slaughterhouses-expose-grim-working-conditions-in-meat-indust

Phil G
14 May 2020 17:30:49


They do draw some strange conclusions in the media. On the six o'clock BBC News - A&E departments are widely at 50% of usual demand due to people scared to come into hospital for fear of getting the virus. Have they ever been in an A&E. Try less industrial accidents, playground accidents and road traffic accidents. Also no pubs and clubs open and no sports injuries. These I guess would be at least 80% of the normal admissions.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Not sure if the word strange is right, but they do like to state the bleeding obvious. Like yesterday, yes we know we are in recession. Again, the bleedin obvious. Maybe they still think people have been away on holiday and just returned. Or good insight for Aliens.


Edit: Or for the 10% that just don't just get it still.

Phil G
14 May 2020 17:38:24


Some of the recent outbreaks in Germany have been in meat processing plants


'Since the end of April, COVID-19 outbreaks were also reported in meat processing plants in Baden-Wuerttemberg, North Rhine-Westphalia and Schleswig-Holstein, with case numbers ranging from 100 to 350.'


Yesterday's R-number was estimated at 0.81, today's estimate not available yet.


https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-05-13-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile


 


Re: meat processing plants and coronavirus, interesting article below linking it to overcrowded accommodation and transport


https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/12/covid-19-outbreaks-in-german-slaughterhouses-expose-grim-working-conditions-in-meat-indust


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


That's what we need, a bit of a clue where are current infections are mostly occurring. Perhaps that can be then addressed. Surely some investigation may find a common theme!

Essan
14 May 2020 17:55:24


I think PhilG, Crewe, Maunder, four, westv, bleur, hickster, Essan and Duane will be in attendance


 


 




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 




Sadly I cannot attend as I am too busy on social media pointing out to the selfish yahoos that no, you cannot go wild camping or bothying ....  

And also getting my shop ready in the event that Boris finally lets me go to work again.   Before I get declared bankrupt.


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Essan
14 May 2020 17:57:42


Some of the recent outbreaks in Germany have been in meat processing plants


'Since the end of April, COVID-19 outbreaks were also reported in meat processing plants in Baden-Wuerttemberg, North Rhine-Westphalia and Schleswig-Holstein, with case numbers ranging from 100 to 350.'


Yesterday's R-number was estimated at 0.81, today's estimate not available yet.


https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-05-13-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile


 


Re: meat processing plants and coronavirus, interesting article below linking it to overcrowded accommodation and transport


https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/12/covid-19-outbreaks-in-german-slaughterhouses-expose-grim-working-conditions-in-meat-indust


Originally Posted by: JHutch 




The vegans will love that ..... 



Andy
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Caz
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14 May 2020 18:02:39


 


Not sure if the word strange is right, but they do like to state the bleeding obvious. Like yesterday, yes we know we are in recession. Again, the bleedin obvious. Maybe they still think people have been away on holiday and just returned. Or good insight for Aliens.


Edit: Or for the 10% that just don't just get it still.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 

  Makes me laugh when they say, ‘last month clothing sales have been at their lowest since ought blob’, or ‘high street shops saw lowest sales since....’.   Get away!  Who’d have thought it?


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chelseagirl
14 May 2020 18:06:53





Sadly I cannot attend as I am too busy on social media pointing out to the selfish yahoos that no, you cannot go wild camping or bothying ....  

And also getting my shop ready in the event that Boris finally lets me go to work again.   Before I get declared bankrupt.


Originally Posted by: Essan 

OT I know but I am reading a book about bothys at the moment. Quite funny! Couldn’t remember who on here was the bothy fan!


The Fenlands of Cambridgeshire
Caz
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14 May 2020 18:07:34


Has anyone on here bothered making an online complaint about neighbours who think social distancing doesn’t apply to them?  And did the police bother doing anything whatsoever about it.


I’m at the end of my tether with people down my street.  I don’t want to be a ‘grass’ but i’ve given them the benefit of the doubt for the last few weeks but i’ve had enough! 


Originally Posted by: John p 

Haven’t had a problem here but if we did, I’d just let the idiots get on with it as long as they weren’t disturbing the peace!  If someone wants to put themselves at risk, it’s up to them.  As long as I take precautions and protect myself against them.


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ozone_aurora
14 May 2020 18:08:08

Although I may have miss-read it, it looks as if for some areas, estimated cases are on the rise again. 
https://covid.joinzoe.com/data.


Wouldn't be surprising since nearly everybody are out & about, especially in Lowestoft area.

I'm continuing with the lockdown.

Roger Parsons
14 May 2020 18:08:17


The vegans will love that ..... 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Vegan meat should be healthy, Essan - I'd give it a try. Would almost be like going vegetarian.


R.


 


RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
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Heavy Weather 2013
14 May 2020 18:29:54
TfL has received a government bailout of 1.6bn. Apparently tfl would have declared bankruptcy this evening.
Mark
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Hippydave
14 May 2020 18:36:47


 


The specificity refers to the ability of the test to detect antibodies specific to the virus you are testing for and it's essentially a measure of how many false positives the test returns. Only 100% specificity guarantees that the test won't return a false positive, that is a positive for an antibody related to another virus (other coronaviruses or cold viruses etc.).


You can right click the table and open it in a new tab to see it.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


Belated reply as went for a ride - ty for yours (and Darren's) explanation


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DEW
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14 May 2020 18:40:26


They do draw some strange conclusions in the media. On the six o'clock BBC News - A&E departments are widely at 50% of usual demand due to people scared to come into hospital for fear of getting the virus. Have they ever been in an A&E. Try less industrial accidents, playground accidents and road traffic accidents. Also no pubs and clubs open and no sports injuries. These I guess would be at least 80% of the normal admissions.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


True for some. My brother-in-law's wife had a fall and from the amount of bruising seen on Zoom she could have incurred serious damage to her shoulder (it was very painful) not to mention danger of blood clots (she's on anti-clotting drugs). But although taking advice from GP over phone she would not go to A&E for fear of virus.


In case you were wondering, her husband could not help as she is main carer for him.


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RobN
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14 May 2020 18:42:13


Some of the recent outbreaks in Germany have been in meat processing plants


'Since the end of April, COVID-19 outbreaks were also reported in meat processing plants in Baden-Wuerttemberg, North Rhine-Westphalia and Schleswig-Holstein, with case numbers ranging from 100 to 350.'


Yesterday's R-number was estimated at 0.81, today's estimate not available yet.


https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-05-13-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile


 


Re: meat processing plants and coronavirus, interesting article below linking it to overcrowded accommodation and transport


https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/12/covid-19-outbreaks-in-german-slaughterhouses-expose-grim-working-conditions-in-meat-indust


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Meat packing plants are a big problem during the epidemic in US too


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6918e3.htm?s_cid=mm6918e3_x


As of May 1, nearly 5,000 packing plant workers in 19 states had fallen ill, and 20 had died.


https://theconversation.com/to-understand-the-danger-of-covid-19-outbreaks-in-meatpacking-plants-look-at-the-industrys-history-137367


 


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Gavin D
14 May 2020 18:43:32

Regional data for new cases today in England


The 7 English regions 



  • London +89 (0.3%) 26,113

  • Midlands +248 (1.1%) 23,438

  • North West +237 (1.0%) 23,090

  • North East and Yorkshire +227 (1.0%) 22,135

  • South East +170 (0.9%) 19,776

  • East of England +152 (1.2%) 12,716

  • South West +32 (0.4%) 7,187


The 10 local areas with the highest cases



  1. Kent +54 (1.3%) 4,308

  2. Lancashire +22 (0.7%) 3,261

  3. Birmingham +24 (0.7%) 3,216

  4. Hampshire +17 (0.5%) 3,098

  5. Essex +52 (1.7%) 3,006

  6. Surrey +12 (0.4%) 2,786

  7. Hertfordshire +20 (0.7%) 2,680

  8. Sheffield +17 (0.7%) 2,436

  9. Cumbria +4 (0.2%) 2,122

  10. Staffordshire +18 (0.9%) 2,022


The 10 local areas with the lowest cases



  1. Rutland 28 - No change

  2. North East Lincolnshire 145 - No change

  3. Isle of Wight +4 (2.5%) 161

  4. Torbay +6 (2.8%) 217

  5. Bath and North East Somerset 225 - No change

  6. Bracknell Forest 234 +1 (0.4%) 235

  7. Windsor and Maidenhead +1 (0.4%) 276

  8. Calderdale 278 - No change

  9. Hartlepool +36 (12.8%) 281

  10. Thurrock +2 (0.7%) 304

bledur
14 May 2020 19:17:46


I think PhilG, Crewe, Maunder, four, westv, bleur, hickster, Essan and Duane will be in attendance


 


 




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 No mention of an open bar or other freebies  so probably not

bledur
14 May 2020 19:21:28


I've come to the conclusion that both Whitty and Vallance are chancers who know about as much as we do


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 Sadly regarding this pandemic i think you might be right.

The Beast from the East
14 May 2020 19:43:29


 


 No mention of an open bar or other freebies  so probably not


Originally Posted by: bledur 


Bring your own booze from what I gather, and you might get a free black eye


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Maunder Minimum
14 May 2020 20:06:59


Has anyone on here bothered making an online complaint about neighbours who think social distancing doesn’t apply to them?  And did the police bother doing anything whatsoever about it.


I’m at the end of my tether with people down my street.  I don’t want to be a ‘grass’ but i’ve given them the benefit of the doubt for the last few weeks but i’ve had enough!


 


 


Originally Posted by: John p 


Can't you just keep your distance from them?


No way would I sneak on my neighbours, unless they were aggravating me/us personally or doing something blatantly criminal.


New world order coming.
Maunder Minimum
14 May 2020 20:12:10


Schools should not re-open and the lockdown has already broken down in England.


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


So why have schools gone back in Denmark, Germany and France?


 


New world order coming.

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