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Saint Snow
17 May 2020 12:36:54


 


Absolute arseholes.


I am sick to death of the right wing media in this country. Just f*ck off. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


You can sense the anger that unions are still able to dictate to the posh, public school b*stards of a Tory government.


They're desperate to keep us on the 'road back to normality' and schools returning is a major landmark in this. If schools cannot go back, then it helps maintain a 'stick with the lockdown' mentality amongst the general public. 


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Joe Bloggs
17 May 2020 12:54:21


 


Strong words Joe  


I agree entirely. There is a clear, biased and unfair agenda to these rags.


Originally Posted by: SJV 


I’m tired and grumpy . :D 


Excuse my French. 


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fairweather
17 May 2020 12:54:45


 


Beat me too it! That really is a pathetic contribution which suggests that the author missed out on some much-needed education and lacks much awareness of how the world works. £127,500 per annum for school fees???? How truly imbecilic.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Well you are both wrong!! From the Eton website - it's not really that hard to fact check these days.


School Fee (payable on the first day of term by direct debit)

















Current school fee

£14,167 per half [i.e. term; there are three terms in a year]. Bursaries are awarded by the Bursaries Committee as soon as a boy has been offered a conditional place at the school, which is approximately 18 months prior to his joining the school. All bursaries are means-tested.


King’s Scholars

The maximum fee for King’s Scholars is 90% of the current school fee (recipients can also apply for a bursary for the remainder of the fee on a means-tested basis).


Music Scholars

The maximum fee for Music Scholars is 90% of the current school fee (recipients can also apply for a bursary for the remainder of the fee on a means-tested basis). 



Miscellaneous













Absentee Fee

£14,167 per half


Withdrawal without due notice fee

£14,167 per half



Extras





















Music

£320 per half for lessons totalling 30 minutes per week.


 

£480 per half for lessons totalling 45 minutes per week.


 

£640 per half for lessons totalling 60 minutes per week.


Other extras

School extras are billed in arrears and the level of charges varies depending on the activities a boy does while at Eton. Extras can vary greatly but are usually between £500-£1,000 per half. A full list of possible additional charges is sent to parents at the start of the academic year.



So with extras maybe £15,000 per half  team. So just the £90,000 per year then. So in my book that is imbecilic!

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Joe Bloggs
17 May 2020 12:56:00


 


 


You can sense the anger that unions are still able to dictate to the posh, public school b*stards of a Tory government.


They're desperate to keep us on the 'road back to normality' and schools returning is a major landmark in this. If schools cannot go back, then it helps maintain a 'stick with the lockdown' mentality amongst the general public. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Absolutely. 


The apathy towards the safety of our teachers, some of the most over-worked, underpaid, under-resourced people working in our society is absolutely shameful. 


Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL
Bugglesgate
17 May 2020 12:59:35


You can sense the anger that unions are still able to dictate to the posh, public school b*stards of a Tory government.


They're desperate to keep us on the 'road back to normality' and schools returning is a major landmark in this. If schools cannot go back, then it helps maintain a 'stick with the lockdown' mentality amongst the general public. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Williamson praised teachers yesterday for "doing the right thing".


A questioner challenged him  to come out openly and say he thought teachers   should  defy their union.  He swerved the question, but the inference was there.


My own reading of the situation is that the unions are not against  schools re-opening, just that it needs to be done safely for teachers and children.  The undue haste   with which the Govt. is trying to "steamroller" this though is a concern.  Especially as the BMA has now come out and backed the teachers unions.


 


 


 

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Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:00:01
Wales has reported 162 new cases and 12 new deaths
Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:02:08

NHS England has reported 90 new hospital deaths down from 181 yesterday


 


Las Sunday. NHS England reported 178 new hospital deaths 

Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:03:11
Scotland has reported 90 new cases and 9 new deaths
Joe Bloggs
17 May 2020 13:03:54

This is an horrific article.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2020/05/17/teaching-unions-betraying-children-claim-protect/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1589699944

Who are they betraying. This language is just not helpful.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Just going back to that headline. 


Unions are “betraying” children. What offensive, spiteful, callous language to use.


The vast majority of teachers (and by extension, union members), go into teaching because they love children, and  love seeing children develop, and learn. 

I despair. 


 


Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL
Brian Gaze
17 May 2020 13:04:25

ST saying that about 30% of tests in the UK are giving false negatives. A potential disaster in the making if true.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/invasive-coronavirus-tests-fuelling-rise-in-false-negatives-6ctgwzzvg


 

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Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:06:21
All 90 deaths in England's hospitals were recorded within the last 5-day's
Gandalf The White
17 May 2020 13:07:17


 


Well you are both wrong!! From the Eton website - it's not really that hard to fact check these days.


School Fee (payable on the first day of term by direct debit)

















Current school fee

£14,167 per half [i.e. term; there are three terms in a year]. Bursaries are awarded by the Bursaries Committee as soon as a boy has been offered a conditional place at the school, which is approximately 18 months prior to his joining the school. All bursaries are means-tested.


King’s Scholars

The maximum fee for King’s Scholars is 90% of the current school fee (recipients can also apply for a bursary for the remainder of the fee on a means-tested basis).


Music Scholars

The maximum fee for Music Scholars is 90% of the current school fee (recipients can also apply for a bursary for the remainder of the fee on a means-tested basis). 



Miscellaneous













Absentee Fee

£14,167 per half


Withdrawal without due notice fee

£14,167 per half



Extras





















Music

£320 per half for lessons totalling 30 minutes per week.


 

£480 per half for lessons totalling 45 minutes per week.


 

£640 per half for lessons totalling 60 minutes per week.


Other extras

School extras are billed in arrears and the level of charges varies depending on the activities a boy does while at Eton. Extras can vary greatly but are usually between £500-£1,000 per half. A full list of possible additional charges is sent to parents at the start of the academic year.



So with extras maybe £15,000 per half  team. So just the £90,000 per year then. So in my book that is imbecilic!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


ROFL. Were you skiving during maths lessons?


Llamedos said £42,500 per annum. 3 x £14,167 is £42,500.


The extras are, unsurprisingly, optional and e x t r a.


That’s a Fail I’m afraid. Back for the re-sit.

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bledur
17 May 2020 13:09:39

Probably a bit early for schools to return in any numbers for a while yet. Our 10 year old Grandaughter is greatly enjoying lockdown  school with only 3 or 4 other classmates

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17 May 2020 13:11:59


 


 


You can sense the anger that unions are still able to dictate to the posh, public school b*stards of a Tory government.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



Why would Unions blocking government decisions be a good thing



 


They're desperate to keep us on the 'road back to normality' and schools returning is a major landmark in this. If schools cannot go back, then it helps maintain a 'stick with the lockdown' mentality amongst the general public. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



And why is this a bad thing.

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Bugglesgate
17 May 2020 13:12:16


ST saying that about 30% of tests in the UK are giving false negatives. A potential disaster in the making if true.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/invasive-coronavirus-tests-fuelling-rise-in-false-negatives-6ctgwzzvg


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Interesting !  My cousin's other half had all the symptoms of it and ended up in hospital for a protracted period  but tested negative.  My Cousin is a nurse and to say she was surprised by the test result would be putting it mildly !


 

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:14:12

The earliest reported death in today's announcement from NHS England was May 12th with May 14th the highest single reporting day


Retron
17 May 2020 13:14:31

We're now quarantining our new boat migrants for 14 days... goodness knows why it's taken so long, but at least it's being done now. We had 227 arrive over bank holiday Friday and last Saturday and I guess that was the final straw.


Incidentally, we had 6 boats and 90 migrants turn up yesterday.


Home Office's 14 day quarantine for migrants welcomed by Dover MP Natalie Elphicke


https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/mp-welcomes-quarantine-for-migrants-227218/


Six boats carrying 90 migrants intercepted before reaching Kent


https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/six-boats-carrying-90-migrants-stopped-in-channel-227306/


 

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JHutch
17 May 2020 13:15:16


ST saying that about 30% of tests in the UK are giving false negatives. A potential disaster in the making if true.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/invasive-coronavirus-tests-fuelling-rise-in-false-negatives-6ctgwzzvg


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes, has been talk all along that there are a significant number of false negatives and it is an awkward procedure making the sample hard to gather, although i guess the true number of false negatives is unknown. Does seem a bit strange for a disease which is supposedly so infectious (i don't think it is quite as infectious as some people think though). Re: people testing negative in hospital, i have heard that myself from nurse friends - there are people in hospital with classic covid symptoms and the staff are sure the patient has it, but who keep on coming up negative for covid

Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:21:39

The number of deaths by date in England



  • 33 May 16th

  • 46 May 15th

  • 4 May 14th

  • 5 May 13th 

  • 2 May 12th

Saint Snow
17 May 2020 13:22:38

So just the £90,000 per year then. So in my book that is imbecilic!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


 


But that £90k buys membership of the Old School Tie Network, where you are guaranteed power and privilege and a whopping great salary regardless of merit.


 


 


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JHutch
17 May 2020 13:23:43


The number of deaths by date in England



  • 33 May 16th

  • 46 May 15th

  • 4 May 14th

  • 5 May 13th 

  • 2 May 12th


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Can only think this is a bigger weekend admin issue than normal. Cynics will be interested to see how it is reported

Phil G
17 May 2020 13:23:46


We're now quarantining our new boat migrants for 14 days... goodness knows why it's taken so long, but at least it's being done now. We had 227 arrive over bank holiday Friday and last Saturday and I guess that was the final straw.


Incidentally, we had 6 boats and 90 migrants turn up yesterday.


Home Office's 14 day quarantine for migrants welcomed by Dover MP Natalie Elphicke


https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/mp-welcomes-quarantine-for-migrants-227218/


Six boats carrying 90 migrants intercepted before reaching Kent


https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/six-boats-carrying-90-migrants-stopped-in-channel-227306/


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I'd like to know what they are doing with the 6 'captains' of these boats. They along with their boats should be 'taken out of service' for a very long time. While the demand is there, cut the supply off.

Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:26:21

UK hospitals have provisionally reported 111 new deaths waiting for Northern Ireland to update


This will be the lowest daily rise since March 23rd (the date the lockdown was announced) when 74 were reported

llamedos
17 May 2020 13:29:33


 


 


But that £90k buys membership of the Old School Tie Network, where you are guaranteed power and privilege and a whopping great salary regardless of merit.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Do try to keep up Saint 


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1216712#post1216712

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Phil G
17 May 2020 13:30:32


UK hospitals have provisionally reported 111 new deaths waiting for Northern Ireland to update


This will be the lowest daily rise since March 23rd (the date the lockdown was announced) when 74 were reported


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Good news Gavin. Need that new case figure to start falling below 3k.

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