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19 May 2020 04:22:44

Hmmm!  Yes Rob!  What is it with courgettes?  They are so temperamental!  Yours sound like mine.  Crispy outer leaves but healthy looking centre growth that’s slow to grow.  I think it can come out of its bubble wrap today.


Two years ago I had one running rampant, resulting in many jars of chutney, but last year I completely failed with one.  Of the two in my daughter’s garden, the slowest one to start proved to be the best.  


On another note, I think we’ve killed our green grape that grows up the veranda.  Hubby put weed killer on the block paving a couple of weeks ago, then jet washed and re-sanded it last week.  We think the jet washing flushed the weed killer down to the vine roots as the leaves have wilted.  


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Rob K
20 May 2020 05:54:41
Latest gardening woe is that the bag of compost we used for putting up seedlings (which had been open since last year) must have been infested with ants, as the kitchen windowsill is now crawling with them 😞
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Roger Parsons
20 May 2020 06:43:38

Latest gardening woe is that the bag of compost we used for putting up seedlings (which had been open since last year) must have been infested with ants, as the kitchen windowsill is now crawling with them :(

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


We've had an exceptionally "anty" year too, Rob. They seem to have scouts in the kitchen most of the time and if we leave anything unwise lying about - like a honey spoon - the word soon gets round. We have no idea where they get in. There are anthills in the sheep field next door and lots of ants in the front garden too. I am wondering if we are in for an early "Flying Ant Day".


https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/when-why-winged-ants-swarm-nuptial-flight.html


I am about to mow the lawn before it gets too hot.


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Bertwhistle
20 May 2020 14:18:32

Latest gardening woe is that the bag of compost we used for putting up seedlings (which had been open since last year) must have been infested with ants, as the kitchen windowsill is now crawling with them :(

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Sorry about your woes Rob.


Not gloating at all, but we just received a nursery delivery we placed a week before Easter(!) including plants we've since brought from seed, including runners. But we hadn't any success with courgettes and we've just received 6 beauties (obviously we didn't bring these on). They are going to be, no doubt, in Innes number 16 special or the such. Weather looks courgette-good from her on in, but not sure what our funny soil will do to them.


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20 May 2020 20:08:11

Runner beans are climbing well and look like they have flower buds forming.  Getting them out early May have paid off.  The courgette certainly enjoyed today’s warmth and sunshine and my sunflower seeds are through!   The lawns are going a bit yellow as we’ve had very little rain since March, so I’ve got the sprinkler out on one this evening and will give the other a drink in the morning before the sun comes up.


My peas are looking a bit too strong to eat as salad pea shoots and may end up being planted in the garden to grow on.  I’m trying a different method for use in salads, just sprouting them in a tub!  We’ll see how that works.  


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Rob K
20 May 2020 21:52:35


 


 


Sorry about your woes Rob.


Not gloating at all, but we just received a nursery delivery we placed a week before Easter(!) including plants we've since brought from seed, including runners. But we hadn't any success with courgettes and we've just received 6 beauties (obviously we didn't bring these on). They are going to be, no doubt, in Innes number 16 special or the such. Weather looks courgette-good from her on in, but not sure what our funny soil will do to them.


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


Two or three years ago we had courgettes coming out of our ears, to the extent that the following year we decided to plant something else. Went for butternut squash and got a grand total of one squash to show for nurturing two plants right through to autumn. 


Our soil here is terrible, it is thin sandy acid heathland stuff. Local flora that thrives is gorse, bramble, heather, broom and rhododendrons.  (Although strangely I have tried growing heather and azaleas in the garden and failed with both!)


The veg are in raised beds filled mostly with compost from our two bins. Our compost output has soared since we got rabbits. They predigest all the bramble cuttings a treat πŸ™‚ Bramble seems to be their favourite food, which is handy as we have masses of the stuff and a single shoot can grow nearly a foot in a day!


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21 May 2020 05:40:53

Rob I sympathise with you regarding soil condition.  Ours wasn’t great either but is much improved after many years of digging in home made compost, tea bags, coffee grounds and wood ash.  Rather than a veg patch, I grow herbs, fruit and veg in my mixed borders, so digging around the perennials is a bit of a pain and I’ve had a few casualties but it’s paid off.


Bagged compost has been hard to get hold of this Spring, so I’ve re-used what I had in containers last year, mixed with stuff from our compost bin. This year’s Apache chilies have gone into the same pot as last year’s and I have far more than the three I planted!  Obviously self sets from the fruits that dropped last year.  A bonus but will be giving away quite a few!  


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21 May 2020 14:37:37


 


Two or three years ago we had courgettes coming out of our ears, to the extent that the following year we decided to plant something else. Went for butternut squash and got a grand total of one squash to show for nurturing two plants right through to autumn. 


Our soil here is terrible, it is thin sandy acid heathland stuff. Local flora that thrives is gorse, bramble, heather, broom and rhododendrons.  (Although strangely I have tried growing heather and azaleas in the garden and failed with both!)


The veg are in raised beds filled mostly with compost from our two bins. Our compost output has soared since we got rabbits. They predigest all the bramble cuttings a treat πŸ™‚ Bramble seems to be their favourite food, which is handy as we have masses of the stuff and a single shoot can grow nearly a foot in a day!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


That light, sandy soil, with limited improvement, would be ideal for some crops- I seem to remember carrots like it light & drained. Other root vegetables like parsnips and, I think, potatoes do well as they root deep to get to moisture because of the excellent drainage.


But poor fertility and drought pose problems. I had a look about as I'm sure you have, Rob. This looked interesting wrt improving soil quality.


https://www.growveg.co.uk/guides/the-secret-to-improving-sandy-soil/


May not help ... best of luck anyway.


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Rob K
22 May 2020 13:00:03


 


That light, sandy soil, with limited improvement, would be ideal for some crops- I seem to remember carrots like it light & drained. Other root vegetables like parsnips and, I think, potatoes do well as they root deep to get to moisture because of the excellent drainage.


But poor fertility and drought pose problems. I had a look about as I'm sure you have, Rob. This looked interesting wrt improving soil quality.


https://www.growveg.co.uk/guides/the-secret-to-improving-sandy-soil/


May not help ... best of luck anyway.


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


Yes, carrots and potatoes tend to do well here but we have never had much luck with radishes - they grow masses of top growth and then when you pull them up there's nothing underneath! And rosemary and lavender thrive too, as mentioned in that article.


However much compost we add to the beds it always seems to turn to dust, though!


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Rob K
24 May 2020 09:20:18
Surgery time!
One of my two cucumber seedlings snapped partway up the main stem. It’s still attached but the hollow stem has pinched flat and won’t stay upright. Following a bit of advice online I have taped the stem to a wooden β€œsplint” and replanted the seedling in a deeper pot so the break is below the soil, in the hope that it will send out roots from higher up. It snapped yesterday and still seems green and plump today, so fingers crossed it will repair itself.
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Bertwhistle
24 May 2020 09:36:25

Surgery time!
One of my two cucumber seedlings snapped partway up the main stem. It’s still attached but the hollow stem has pinched flat and won’t stay upright. Following a bit of advice online I have taped the stem to a wooden “splint” and replanted the seedling in a deeper pot so the break is below the soil, in the hope that it will send out roots from higher up. It snapped yesterday and still seems green and plump today, so fingers crossed it will repair itself.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I reckon that's the right thing to do. Tomatoes, sayeth Monty, should always be planted deep as it encourages stronger rooting and lower shooting- could be the same for cucumbers.


After gloating about our courgettes, two have now got major snaps from yesterday's wind.


Dry weather has meant almost no slugs and snails out but we're getting an increasing greenfly problem, especially on lettuces and weaker tomatoes. Having to top&tail wash every lettuce leaf before consuming. They don't seem so keen on the rocket.


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Rob K
25 May 2020 08:24:42

Well the cucumber is still looking healthy and another new leaf is appearing from the centre so it seems to have worked so far. Amazing that the water can still get through once the stem has collapsed like that.


I’m also enjoying the lack of slugs and snails. No greenfly yet on our lettuces. Our big rose bush is once again covered in mildew as it seems to every year, especially when it is dry, but it never seems to stop the display of flowers. Not sure what variety it is but it’s very vigorous and fills one whole corner of the garden. Some type of musk rose I think, with cream flowers that fade to white. It looks fantastic but the flowering period only lasts for two or three weeks from around late May to mid June, depending on weather.  


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Saint Snow
27 May 2020 21:05:17

Should the bottom layers of my compost bin be riddled with ants and wood lice?


 


 



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Rob K
27 May 2020 21:50:33


Should the bottom layers of my compost bin be riddled with ants and wood lice?


 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Sounds like it's too dry? Mine is just riddled with worms, dozens of them in every spadefull.


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28 May 2020 07:23:39


 Sounds like it's too dry? Mine is just riddled with worms, dozens of them in every spadefull.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Robs compost sounds like it's going well. Add a couple of cans of water Saint and keep it moist but not overly so.


An accelerator helps as well.


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Roger Parsons
28 May 2020 08:19:53


Robs compost sounds like it's going well. Add a couple of cans of water Saint and keep it moist but not overly so.


An accelerator helps as well.


Originally Posted by: NMA 


For a free accelerator, Saint, you can do no better than "chamber lees" as they called it in Lincolnshire. Best diluted. Main thing is as said - to get the heap wet - but not too wet. You don't want "anaerobic" conditions.


R.


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28 May 2020 09:05:55


 For a free accelerator, Saint, you can do no better than "chamber lees" as they called it in Lincolnshire. Best diluted. Main thing is as said - to get the heap wet - but not too wet. You don't want "anaerobic" conditions.


R.


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


Indeed Roger. I suggested he uses that very same compound I think last year. It's also a great tomato feed too, diluted of course.


Good for lawns or indeed most horticultural endeavours.


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Roger Parsons
28 May 2020 09:15:17


Indeed Roger. I suggested he uses that very same compound I think last year. It's also a great tomato feed too, diluted of course.


Good for lawns or indeed most horticultural endeavours.


Originally Posted by: NMA 


When I was a kid, in the days before inside toilets and central heating - a piss pot or gozunder was found in most bedrooms. You could tell my Gran was in the privy by the fag smoke coming out of the little "window" in the door. Wee went on the garden - why not?


In these lockdown days of closed public toilets I find myself yearning for the absence of "pissoirs" - but that's a typical selfish male thought...


The excellent one near Radio Lincolnshire in Lincoln has been closed for some time. How mean! Here's the Twickenham Pissoir. Luxury! Enjoy.


https://londonist.com/london/secret/london-s-most-glorious-toilets-the-twickenham-urinal-pissoir


Roger


 p.s. I was using one of these in Rome some years ago when a classy lady came in, stood next to me, gathered up her long dress and had a perfectly successful wee, as far as I could judge from a distance. I was a bit surprised and still can't answer the obvious question...


 


 


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bledur
29 May 2020 19:36:22

Pee is also a way of clearing up Fungal nail infection so every time you have a shower piss on your afflicted toe.

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29 May 2020 19:58:45


Sounds like it's too dry? Mine is just riddled with worms, dozens of them in every spadefull.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

That sounds perfect compost!


We’ve temporarily removed our compost bin due to the woodshed relocation and my son is missing it!  All his life he’s used it as his ‘loo’, he’s 31 now!   Nothing better for getting your compost working than pee!


My runner beans are 4foot high with flower buds, my tumbling toms have flower buds and my courgette is finally having a growth spurt but my dwarf French beans are not doing a lot.  I’ve planted out my competition sunflowers over buckets full of compost in the sunniest part of the garden, away from any veg plants as I’ve read they send out toxins to keep the ground around them clear.  Fingers are crossed as I have tough opposition.  My kids and my siblings!  


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30 May 2020 08:31:43

Picking up from the UIA virus thread on hosepipe bans (which would seem to belong here)


The lawns here have noticeably gone brown in last week, and even some street trees are showing signs of stress.


I'm surprised that water suppliers in the SE are worried, as most of the water for this region is from underground supplies. The level of  local well at Chilgrove is about average for the time of year and the Lavant winterbourne is still running though declining.


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Bertwhistle
30 May 2020 10:45:42


Picking up from the UIA virus thread on hosepipe bans (which would seem to belong here)


The lawns here have noticeably gone brown in last week, and even some street trees are showing signs of stress.


I'm surprised that water suppliers in the SE are worried, as most of the water for this region is from underground supplies. The level of  local well at Chilgrove is about average for the time of year and the Lavant winterbourne is still running though declining.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Yes, the aquifers have been thoroughly well-charged and although soil moisture is low just beneath the surface and the lawn is yellowing, everything deep rooted including the fruit trees seems fine here.


An additional horticultural stress might be temperatures if some of the long fetch cold air in the models settles in for a few nights, with HP reasserting, dropping the winds and drying the air. Frost pockets to the midlands and ground frosts possible here. I thought I'd tucked the fleeces away for the year after that late cold spell in May!


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Rob K
30 May 2020 14:41:17
Yes I’m hoping there won’t be any more frost now everything is racing I to growth.

Courgettes and squashes are thriving now although still only male flowers so far, two or three weeks after the first flowers appeared.
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30 May 2020 20:32:41

I think the warning about water usage was because demand is so high, rather than supply being low.  Severn Trent were saying our pressure may drop due to demand with people being at home.  I expect everyone’s gardening and I have to admit to putting the sprinkler on our yellowing lawns. 


My runner beans are now showing red flowers!  Yay!  Thank you weather gods but please don’t send frosts to spoil all your good work!  


 


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I think the warning about water usage was because demand is so high, rather than supply being low.   


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I spent some time on the phone trying to persuade my wife's nephew in London not to throw out 5000 gallons of water from his inflatable pool because the latest batch of chlorinating chemicals had deposited a bit of sediment (which IMO will be sucked up by the filtration system - and certainly ought to be given the chance to do so overnight). He uses the pool for exercise, swimming like mad but with a rope tied round his waist to prevent him going anywhere.


Down here, I've put in the bedding plants from seed (cosmos, antirrhinum etc). Not the ideal weather for planting out, first hot then cold, and I shall have to keep them well watered, but they were really getting too large for the seed trays.


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