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SJV
01 August 2020 16:56:40


I wonder how long this next hot sequence will last. How many days in a row of 30C and over.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Adjusting for the GFS underestimation of daytime max temps, perhaps a full week at least? Friday to Friday on the latest GFS looks easily capable of 7+ consecutive 30C+ days.

Heavy Weather 2013
01 August 2020 17:38:52
12z shows temperatures of +30C of at least 4-5 consecutive days.

Does quite hit 34C from what I could see, but variation of themes. But with 33C proved you have to assume at least 35-36C somewhere
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TimS
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01 August 2020 17:48:16


 


would that be picturesque garden in near a heavily built up urban area.. like central London for example??


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Wisley, Cambridge, Kew, Brogdale. 


Basically our official weather station network is so sparse most of our stations are at civil or military airfields, universities and botanical gardens. We don’t even have many in city centres anymore. 


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Downpour
01 August 2020 18:15:07


The fewer the better as far as I'm concerned. Roll on Autumn - mind you that doesn't seem to begin until October these days.


Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


 


Indeed, September is usually a summery month these days.


The astronomical seasons (21 Jun - 21 Sep and so on) have a lot to commend them. 


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SJV
01 August 2020 18:46:24

ECM consistent with other output this evening with next weekend looking hot. Mid thirties achievable by next Sunday...



 

Ally Pally Snowman
01 August 2020 18:55:09

ECM must be approaching a 40c run. Astonishing sustained heat.


 


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superteacher
01 August 2020 19:15:06


ECM must be approaching a 40c run. Astonishing sustained heat.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


That ECM op run is quite astonishing.

Gusty
01 August 2020 19:24:18

ECM next Sunday....you can add a couple of degrees to this.



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Ally Pally Snowman
01 August 2020 19:24:38


 


That ECM op run is quite astonishing.


Originally Posted by: superteacher 


 


It shows 37c for next Sunday you can normally add 2c or 3c to that. Crazy.


 


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SJV
01 August 2020 19:40:10
That is indeed one crazy operational from the ECM. One for the archives!
Stormchaser
01 August 2020 19:47:26

ECM and GFS 12z runs are officially in the [insert favourite expletive] hot category for most of England and parts of Wales.


I'm more skeptical of GFS' heatwave longevity than ECM's peak of the heat, which is saying something considering how high that is! 


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Nick Gilly
01 August 2020 19:48:31

That is indeed one crazy operational from the ECM. One for the archives!

Originally Posted by: SJV 

Heavy Weather 2013
01 August 2020 19:56:35
Astonishing ECM.
Mark
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doctormog
01 August 2020 20:04:05



Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 


It is just another wibble from the models.


Gandalf The White
01 August 2020 20:11:34



Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 


For a moment I thought I’d stumbled into the Covid-19 thread.


No problem achieving social distancing there.


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Devonian
01 August 2020 20:14:28

With each passing year I wish more and more I didn't understand some climate science...

Nick Gilly
01 August 2020 20:28:42


 


For a moment I thought I’d stumbled into the Covid-19 thread.


No problem achieving social distancing there.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Nah just an illustration to depict insanity. Because that's what the models have gone and done. They have flipped.

SJV
01 August 2020 20:37:26


 


Nah just an illustration to depict insanity. Because that's what the models have gone and done. They have flipped.


Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 


Or perhaps our climate has. I'm not saying the ECM will verify like that, but we've just achieved nearly 38C from a one-day wonder of heat. Next weekend could see consecutive days with similar uppers. 


Insane models, insane climate 


 


Edit: ECM 12z was an outlier at the end, when it got insanely hot. The mean suggests significant heat is on the way though


The Beast from the East
01 August 2020 21:18:59
Thankfully an outlier. That level of heat will kill, let alone trying to breathe in public places in muzzles
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SJV
01 August 2020 21:25:16

Thankfully an outlier. That level of heat will kill, let alone trying to breathe in public places in muzzles

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


It's a good point about the health implications of a significant heatwave, to be honest.


Worth keeping and eye on pollution and pollen levels as well as temperatures nearer the event.

Gandalf The White
02 August 2020 00:05:16

Thankfully an outlier. That level of heat will kill, let alone trying to breathe in public places in muzzles

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


The London ensembles show that the op was only at the top end of the spread on Sunday 9th; not strictly an outlier. Five days in a row at or above 30c with the mean at or above 30c on two days and the potential for 35c



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DEW
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02 August 2020 06:06:01

Even the normally sober MetO has 35 & 36 C for Heathrow (as one example) next Fri & Sat. For those who can't remember that year, welcome to 1976. Good comparison here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44943672 - 1976 had 15 consecutive days above 32C.


Early report today as we are going to visit our daughter; ECM based on yesterday's 12z.


Jetstream W-ly for  couple of day, then fragmenting before a burst from the S Fri 7th. Then it fragments again and disappears before another burst from the S (as part of a meander) Fri 14th. Looking to resume W-ly quite strongly Tue 18th


GFS very much in line with jetstream - W-lies at first until switching to S/SW flow Thu 6th bringing up the plume and heat. Then ridge from Norway to Scotland with continental LP affecting the S until Thu 13th when Atlantic LP approaches - still warm/hot for the SE but NW cooler. By Tue 18th that LP is beginning to enforce westerlies widely.


GEFS - from Wed 5th mean temps in S well above normal almost to end of runs, peak about 7C above norm Sat 8th. Mean finally back near norm Sun 16th though op & control remain high. Little rain, just a few isolated spikes later on. Temps in Scotland & N England less exaggerated, even a bit of a dip to normal around Mon 10th. Central Scotland mainly dry, morreular rain N & S of this, esp N England.


ECM 12z quite similar to GFS


 


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
02 August 2020 07:26:53

ECM this morning still very hot Friday and Saturday mid to high 30s I should think . Then looks quite thundery for a bit followed by another plume late on.


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TimS
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02 August 2020 07:42:36
If this does turn into another brief hot peak we’re going to end up with a very odd distribution of temperatures for this summer. As many days in the low to mid 30s as the high 20s. I think we’ve had 28C once or maybe twice in London this year.
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Heavy Weather 2013
02 August 2020 07:46:27
I think we should start a heat watch thread. Yesterday’s 12z ECM was a cracker, is the 0z showing anything similar?
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

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