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Heavy Weather 2013
19 July 2022 13:02:59
Guys can we take the arguements on global warming to the UIA. This thread is for tracking the historic heat.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
fairweather
19 July 2022 13:03:25

Yesterday's max now beaten with 38.7 C at 13.33 hrs. Levelled off again now. Hopefully temporary. I have never experienced 40C anywhere. Close to in Singapore and Adelaide but not quite.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Saint Snow
19 July 2022 13:05:01


Well, best outlaw any debate on it then, its settled!! 


Originally Posted by: Tom Rance 


 


What an immature response.


Trends in data are there in black and white. Debating is for opinions and theories. If someone refuses to accept a fact as a fact, then there is zero point in debating with them.


The cartoon I posted is directed at all the 'armchair AGW deniers'. Climate change and the science behind it is almost universally-accepted scentific fact. Climate scientists have studied climate & metoerological science for years through university and beyond, then worked with other similarly-knowledgeable and experienced climate scientists to learn even more.


Yet we have people whose scientific studying exteds to a GCSE in Combined Science (at best), telling those learned climate scientists that they've got it all wrong, based on nothing but 'a hunch' or what they've read by some [similarly unqualified] crank on Twitter or Facebook. 


Or, worse, that the climate scientists are all part of some grand scientific conspiracy to con the public into believing climate change is real, so that they can all have super-paid jobs in the field of climate science.


 


 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
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Aneurin Bevan
John p
19 July 2022 13:05:28


 


BTW John your inbox is full!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Oops should be ok now. I deleted some old ones from about ten years ago when Matty H was telling me off ;-)


Camberley, Surrey
Bolty
19 July 2022 13:06:39
Remarkable, the wind has just swung round to the NW from the Irish Sea, got stronger and knocked 4°C off the temperature in 10 minutes. Now a very fresh 32°C.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Heavy Weather 2013
19 July 2022 13:08:09
Getting the feeling the heating has stalled in the south. My heat zone hasn’t ticked up for about an hour now with the exception of Northolt at 40C
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Chunky Pea
19 July 2022 13:08:18


 


 


TBF, the 'trend' is over a very short period of time in the grand scheme of the planet. But nevertheless, a trend is a trend


Originally Posted by: wallaw 


The overall trend is rising, but statistically speaking we should be going into a shorter cooler phase soon now.  Just going by our own data over here of course but I imagine UK data reads the same,  it seems that warmer and cooler phases peak and trough every 2 to 3 years or so. That's how I read it anyway which isn't to say that it is that clean cut either. 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
Saint Snow
19 July 2022 13:09:39

"Winter is coming"


Well, not 'winter', but certainly cooler temps as the cooler air moves NE'wards.


Hawarden on the Wales/Cheshire border has fallen from 36c to 33c in the last half hour. West of that, temps are down to mid-20's.


The Merseyside stations are stable at 36c for now, but will begin their decline; Manchester may squeak a 37c but it'll have to be quick.


 


Ah well, it's been a blast! (of furnace-like air)


Let's see what you guys further east can get to (hope somewhere takes the record off Heathrow!!)



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Russwirral
19 July 2022 13:09:49


 


Absolutely take your point, but still, one event does not prove a theory.


 


Originally Posted by: Tom Rance 


 


Thats a good point. I counter with the fact this is 1 of many events over the past 2 decades that have driven us to mote frequent and extreme weather events. The record temp has been broken almost every other year in the past decade, starting in 2003.


 


Its quite easy to say this is isolated because you cant really record two or three seperate heatwaves for the same location on the same day... you have to look at frequency over time. In this case we have yet another major weather extreme..again... which speaks of frequency, which i think is what you are alluding to is missing? 


Jason H
19 July 2022 13:10:55
Looks like it's peaked here at 39.8°. Beginning to fall away a touch. 38.9°.
I feel great! so maybe I might just
Search for a 9 to 5, if I strive
Then maybe I'll stay alive

Bexleyheath, Kent.
Brian Gaze
19 July 2022 13:10:58


 


We both made the same mistake Brian - that was at 3.00 am   The heat's got to us !


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Ooopps.. 


Brian Gaze
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Brian Gaze
19 July 2022 13:14:24

Getting the feeling the heating has stalled in the south. My heat zone hasn’t ticked up for about an hour now with the exception of Northolt at 40C

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Still ticking up here. I've just reached 40.5C which is the highest value today.


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TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
19 July 2022 13:14:41
It does seem to be stalling a bit in the SE now, as the East Midlands starts to take the limelight. I notice nowhere automated at rounded 40C at 2pm. However, Kent may be different. The vineyard continues to creep up. 38.3C the last time I looked.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Tom Rance
19 July 2022 13:16:44

40c and it feels like it too! 


Tom
Cambridgeshire, Ouse Valley, 40ft AMSL.
Jiries
19 July 2022 13:16:45


 


Are you doing nothing to try to keep the temperature inside cooler??


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Want to experience hot house and to get a record indoors as well.  35C was the highest in 2003 now kitchen 37C as it facing the south and the hot air from the alleyway enter here by the door.  Just enjoy yourself and don't worry about me.  I have my own life.

Chunky Pea
19 July 2022 13:17:43


 


 


What an immature response.


Trends in data are there in black and white. Debating is for opinions and theories. If someone refuses to accept a fact as a fact, then there is zero point in debating with them.


The cartoon I posted is directed at all the 'armchair AGW deniers'. Climate change and the science behind it is almost universally-accepted scentific fact. Climate scientists have studied climate & metoerological science for years through university and beyond, then worked with other similarly-knowledgeable and experienced climate scientists to learn even more.


Yet we have people whose scientific studying exteds to a GCSE in Combined Science (at best), telling those learned climate scientists that they've got it all wrong, based on nothing but 'a hunch' or what they've read by some [similarly unqualified] crank on Twitter or Facebook. 


Or, worse, that the climate scientists are all part of some grand scientific conspiracy to con the public into believing climate change is real, so that they can all have super-paid jobs in the field of climate science.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I don't necessarily disagree but this sort of finger wagging, patronising attitude is what puts a lot of people off the sort of people who constantly appeal to authority in this manner. Whether you agree with the trend and others don't, it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference either way. 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
Tom Rance
19 July 2022 13:19:46


 


I don't necessarily disagree but this sort of finger wagging, patronising attitude is what puts a lot of people off the sort of people who constantly appeal to authority in this manner. Whether you agree with the trend and others don't, it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference either way. 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


Exactly this!


I suppose at my ripe old age I should be aware that nuance in an internet forum is always lost!


BTW I love the fact that Jiries is doing the opposite to others and actively heating his house!


 


Tom
Cambridgeshire, Ouse Valley, 40ft AMSL.
Jiries
19 July 2022 13:20:03

39.5C now here.

Rob K
19 July 2022 13:20:37
I'll do the 2pm update in a mo but in the meantime here are the Met Office absolute maxima up to 1pm (1200Z):

Heathrow 40.2C
Charlwood 39.9C
Kew Gardens 39.6C
Wisley 39.3C
Chertsey 39.2C
Northolt 39.2C

Six stations above 39C.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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NDunwell
19 July 2022 13:21:02

It does seem to be stalling a bit in the SE now, as the East Midlands starts to take the limelight. I notice nowhere automated at rounded 40C at 2pm. However, Kent may be different. The vineyard continues to creep up. 38.3C the last time I looked.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


A rounded 40 still showing for Northolt but think we've hit our peak now. Be very surprised if the temperature rises here past 3pm


Cambridge will surely hit 40C. I suppose we won't get the Botanic gardens figure until tomorrow, i'm sure that will be 40 something.


Otherwise it's up to Lincs area to try get 40C+


 


Nick
Ruislip (2 miles from the Northolt recording station)
TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
19 July 2022 13:21:18


 


Want to experience hot house and to get a record indoors as well.  35C was the highest in 2003 now kitchen 37C as it facing the south and the hot air from the alleyway enter here by the door.  Just enjoy yourself and don't worry about me.  I have my own life.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


You're a TWO legend, Jiries


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Tim A
19 July 2022 13:22:00
Where is the quickest place to get the hourly updates?
Weatherobs seems to be taking a while...
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
Tim A
19 July 2022 13:22:52


 


You're a TWO legend, Jiries


Originally Posted by: TimS 


When I am in my wooden greenhouse/shed I always think of Jiries and how much he would like a shed with loads of big glass windows. 


 


Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
Andy J
19 July 2022 13:23:05
37C reached here. Obliterated my previous record of 35.1C reached in July 2019. Humidity is only 20% so doesn't feel as intense as the July 2019 spell....yet.
Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.
Joe Bloggs
19 July 2022 13:23:40

Now 37C at Manchester Airport. Astounding. 



Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

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