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Nick Gilly
19 July 2022 17:43:19
Does anyone know if the 850 temps have been higher than yesterday's record at Cambourne? Could they have reached 25C?
Ally Pally Snowman
19 July 2022 17:45:55


Met has finally tweeted provisional max temps.


 


Coningsby 40.3C the top.


St James's Park and Heathrow 40.2C


Gringley on the Hill and Kew Gardens 40.1C


Northolt 40.0C


 


https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1549448971676012546?s=20&t=orEGMISeC53v7iJKs67BBw


 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


All eyes on Cambridge BG then. Cambridge NIAB was 39.9c so I think there is a good chance.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
19 July 2022 17:47:48


 


All eyes on Cambridge BG then. Cambridge NIAB was 39.9c so I think there is a good chance.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


They should tweet the reading tomorrow. They can't open the screen to take the measurement until 10am :)


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Ally Pally Snowman
19 July 2022 17:49:50


 


They should tweet the reading tomorrow. They can't open the screen to take the measurement until 10am :)


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


What was NIAB in 2019?


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
19 July 2022 17:50:42


 


What was NIAB in 2019?


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


38.2C IIRC. So 0.5 below the BG.


 


Edit: no, that was the airport. NIAB was 38.1C. Apply the same correction and we get 40.5.


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noodle doodle
19 July 2022 17:51:49


Met has finally tweeted provisional max temps.


 


Coningsby 40.3C the top.


St James's Park and Heathrow 40.2C


Gringley on the Hill and Kew Gardens 40.1C


Northolt 40.0C


 


https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1549448971676012546?s=20&t=orEGMISeC53v7iJKs67BBw


 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Ha, love the first comments


"Source?" From some inquiring mind concerned with challenging the scientific status quo 


Everyone else: "Urr, they are the met office, they are the source"

Brian Gaze
19 July 2022 17:52:04


Met has finally tweeted provisional max temps.


 


Coningsby 40.3C the top.


St James's Park and Heathrow 40.2C


Gringley on the Hill and Kew Gardens 40.1C


Northolt 40.0C


 


https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1549448971676012546?s=20&t=orEGMISeC53v7iJKs67BBw


 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Shame that Gringley On The Hill didn't top the list. 


 


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Tom Rance
19 July 2022 17:52:44


 


Not for this thread really, but suffice to say that there is no room for opinion when it comes to clear evidence.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Wow!


Just wow!



Tom
Cambridgeshire, Ouse Valley, 40ft AMSL.
Ally Pally Snowman
19 July 2022 17:53:33


 


 


38.2C IIRC. So 0.5 below the BG.


 


Edit: no, that was the airport. NIAB was 38.1C. Apply the same correction and we get 40.5.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Interesting!


Thanks


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
19 July 2022 17:54:47


 


Shame that Gringley On The Hill didn't top the list. 


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I was thinking that , would have made a great winner. 


 


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Retron
19 July 2022 17:56:45

Does anyone know if the 850 temps have been higher than yesterday's record at Cambourne? Could they have reached 25C?

Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 


https://weather.uwyo.edu/upperair/sounding.html


22.6C at Herstmonceaux was the highest at 12z today, but the plume went a long way north! Nothing approaching 25C though.


Leysdown, north Kent
Brian Gaze
19 July 2022 17:56:49


 


I was thinking that , would have made a great winner. 


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Exactly. Looks like a nice place with a great name!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringley_on_the_Hill


Sorry to the folks at Coningsby but your name is somewhat boring. 


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Tim A
19 July 2022 17:58:35


 


Shame that Gringley On The Hill didn't top the list. 


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Shame the nearby Bawtry or Doncaster or anywhere not on the hill at 10masl or so didn't have an official station. 


Tim
NW Leeds
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Polar Low
19 July 2022 18:02:17

Was this wrong then Darren?


https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/850-hpa/6h.htm



 


https://weather.uwyo.edu/upperair/sounding.html


22.6C at Herstmonceaux was the highest at 12z today, but the plume went a long way north! Nothing approaching 25C though.


Originally Posted by: Retron 

Caz
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19 July 2022 18:04:21


What about all these rounded figures? It is possible there could at least be a 40.4C somewhere that hasn't been written down yet?


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

I’m in no doubt there are places that got higher than 40.3c but they won’t have official stations, so they won’t count!  We really need more!  Even so, the results we do have are remarkable in the showing how widespread the heat was.  


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Rob K
19 July 2022 18:07:40


 


I was thinking that , would have made a great winner. 


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


I’d never heard of it; but it sounds like something out of Midsomer Murders!


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johncs2016
19 July 2022 18:11:03


 


I'm not sure that's the case - the Met Office seem to get the instantaneous figures much earlier than us - they quoted higher figures than the hourly ones for Kew and St James's Park, among others - they never showed a 40C on the hour but the Met tweeted about them going over 40.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


If that is the case, they will therefore know in advance, everything which goes into any raw SYNOP/BUFR code that is produced before that is publicly released on the usual outlets (such as ogimet.com) at the specified times.


Does this therefore mean that it is the Met Office who are responsible for producing that raw SYNOP/BUFR code, or that they at least play a role in producing that code?


Another point here is that you are never going to know what the actual maximum temperature was before the actual end of the particular 24 hour time frame for which that applies, so even the Met Office aren't going to know that before then (which I had thought that was the reason why the raw SYNOP codes which give those maximum temperatures were usually always produced at 18z every evening).


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bledur
19 July 2022 18:13:59

A max of 34 yesterday puts this heatwave for this area well down the list. Quite unusual as we normally catch the hot weather.

Rob K
19 July 2022 18:15:40
1800Z data starting to come out.

Scampton and Wittering were near misses with 39.9C.

If I have time I will try and draw up a list of all the stations that beat the previous record.

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Rob K
19 July 2022 18:17:55
Waddington also ties the record with 40.3C

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Tom Rance
19 July 2022 18:19:34

The widespreadedness (is that a word) of the extreme heat today is astonishing.


I may have missed it but I think there were 850's yesterday of 25.2c a new record. Was that beaten today?


Tom
Cambridgeshire, Ouse Valley, 40ft AMSL.
scillydave
19 July 2022 18:20:13
Out of interest does anyone have a list of yesterday's maximums? I'd be interested to see how Cambridge botanical Gardens and Brogdale fared.

Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.
JHutch
19 July 2022 18:21:14

Max in Wales today seems to be 36.2C at Hawarden, so beating the previous record but lower than yesterday unless there is an official site on the north coast which benefitted enough from the southerly earlier on.

TimS
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19 July 2022 18:24:38


 


I was thinking that , would have made a great winner. 


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Just imagine how hot it must have been in Gringley in the Valley. 


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
TimS
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19 July 2022 18:25:54


 


Exactly. Looks like a nice place with a great name!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringley_on_the_Hill


Sorry to the folks at Coningsby but your name is somewhat boring. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


interesting it’s near historical met hotspot Bawtry.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
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