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scillydave
20 July 2022 13:24:45


  That’s quite true! 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Caz, you were right in the heart of where the models were forecasting the highest temperatures so I wouldn't be surprised if your reading wasn't too far off.


I certainly think the lack of stations meant that we missed out on having a much higher officially recorded temperature. 

Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.
Caz
  • Caz
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20 July 2022 13:57:50


 


Caz, you were right in the heart of where the models were forecasting the highest temperatures so I wouldn't be surprised if your reading wasn't too far off.


I certainly think the lack of stations meant that we missed out on having a much higher officially recorded temperature. 


Originally Posted by: scillydave 

 

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johncs2016
20 July 2022 15:50:41

I've just watched Gavin P.'s latest 10-14 day forecast video where he mentioned that the provisional Scottish record from yesterday is now up to 35.1°C as recorded at Floors Castle in Roxburghshire in the Scottish Borders.

That indeed has also been confirmed on Sean Beatty's Twitter feed which means that the particular station which I have just mentioned, has now taken over from Charterhall as the current provisional record holder although Floor's Castle is also not far from here in Hawick, and that was also deemed before the event itself, to be the favourite to take that title which the actual record is officially confirmed by the Met Office.

In a recent post when I was talking about 18:00 UTC SYNOP codes etc., I did predict that the actual record might end up being over 35°C, and that has now been shown to be correct.

The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
idj20
20 July 2022 15:57:56
Jesus, the amount of people on social media comparing Summer 1976 and this recent exceptional hot spell and treating it like there is some kind of hidden agenda just makes me despair for mankind. Both Summers will be remembered but for different reasons, nothing more nothing less.


Horses for courses and all that as attitudes changes as we go into the internet era and we look back at the past with rose tinted lens.
Folkestone Harbour. 
fairweather
20 July 2022 15:58:22

It is strange that today's maximum (so far) is much later than the last two days here. 26.9C at 16.40.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Bolty
20 July 2022 16:05:13


Jesus, the amount of people on social media comparing Summer 1976 and this recent exceptional hot spell and treating it like there is some kind of hidden agenda just makes me despair for mankind. Both Summers will be remembered but for different reasons, nothing more nothing less.


Horses for courses and all that as attitudes changes as we go into the internet era and we look back at the past with rose tinted lens.

Originally Posted by: idj20 


It upsets me because they are also ruining the legacy of summer 1976. Rather than it being remembered as simply a great summer, it is now getting connotations of climate change denial and conspiracy theories to it's name, which I find very sad. I fear that we will soon get to a point where it will be uncomfortable even mentioning that summer.


As you say, both events are memorable and extraordinary for different reasons. Summer 1976 for being a long, hot summer and the recent spell for being a short, but intense heat spike that smashed records all over the country. Can we just leave it at that, rather than it being all these "we survived then" nonsense?


It would be like someone ruining the legacy of December 2010 with conspiracy theories. It's very saddening from a weather enthusiast point of view.

Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
fairweather
20 July 2022 16:05:32


Jesus, the amount of people on social media comparing Summer 1976 and this recent exceptional hot spell and treating it like there is some kind of hidden agenda just makes me despair for mankind. Both Summers will be remembered but for different reasons, nothing more nothing less.


Horses for courses and all that as attitudes changes as we go into the internet era and we look back at the past with rose tinted lens.

Originally Posted by: idj20 


I'm just thankful it's not a '76 style heatwave given the temperatures we can now achieve. Even in my twenties weeks and weeks of unbroken sunshine and days of temperatures in the 30's was hard enough  - but 50 years on !

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Rob K
20 July 2022 16:21:23

I have just updated this list to include the manual stations.



OK I think this is the final list of all the (non-manual) stations that matched or broke the old record, now updated to include the manual readings. I make it 44, or 43 if you discount Waddington.

Coningsby 40.3C
Waddington 40.3C (discounted by Met Office due to non-standard exposure)
Heathrow 40.2C
St James's Park 40.2C
Gringley on the Hill 40.1C
Kew Gardens 40.1C
Cranwell 40.0C
Northolt 40.0C
Cambridge Botanic Garden 39.9C
Cambridge NIAB 39.9C
Charlwood 39.9C
Cranwell 39.9C
Scampton 39.9C
Wittering 39.9C
Bramham 39.8C
Monks Wood 39.8C
Nottingham WC 39.8C
Battersea Heliport 39.6C
Teddington Bushy Park 39.6C
Topcliffe 39.6C
Woburn 39.6C
Bedford 39.5C
Normanby Hall 39.5C
Sheffield 39.4C
Sutton Bonington 39.4C
Wisley 39.3C
Chertsey Abbey Mead 39.2C
Marham 39.2C
Holbeach 39.1C
Ryhill 39.1C
Writtle 39.1C
Brogdale 39.0C
Mildenhall 39.0C (highest hourly reading)
Santon Downham 39.0C
High Beach 38.9C
Wellesbourne 38.9C
Coleshill 38.8C
Iver Waterworks 38.8C
Leeming 38.8C
Benson 38.7C
Church Lawford 38.7C
Coventry 38.7C
Houghton Hall 38.7C
Stowe 38.7C




There are also two airports that recorded 40C METARs (the 39C METARs could have been below 38.7)

Humberside 40C (rounded)
Doncaster 40C (rounded)


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
redmoons
20 July 2022 16:37:18


I have just updated this list to include the manual stations.


 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Thanks for this, Rob 

Andrew,
Watford
ASL 35m
http://weather.andrewlalchan.co.uk 





Caz
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20 July 2022 16:48:39


Jesus, the amount of people on social media comparing Summer 1976 and this recent exceptional hot spell and treating it like there is some kind of hidden agenda just makes me despair for mankind. Both Summers will be remembered but for different reasons, nothing more nothing less.


Horses for courses and all that as attitudes changes as we go into the internet era and we look back at the past with rose tinted lens.

Originally Posted by: idj20 

 That’s precisely why I steer clear of social media!  

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Caz
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20 July 2022 16:57:02


 


It upsets me because they are also ruining the legacy of summer 1976. Rather than it being remembered as simply a great summer, it is now getting connotations of climate change denial and conspiracy theories to it's name, which I find very sad. I fear that we will soon get to a point where it will be uncomfortable even mentioning that summer.


As you say, both events are memorable and extraordinary for different reasons. Summer 1976 for being a long, hot summer and the recent spell for being a short, but intense heat spike that smashed records all over the country. Can we just leave it at that, rather than it being all these "we survived then" nonsense?


It would be like someone ruining the legacy of December 2010 with conspiracy theories. It's very saddening from a weather enthusiast point of view.


Originally Posted by: Bolty 

  Exactly that!  I really wish people would keep social media arguments off here as well!  This is a unique place to discuss our common interest in weather with no need to take sides. 

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Heavy Weather 2013
20 July 2022 17:10:52
Can I just say thank your to everyone for the contributions to this thread over the last 24hrs. It’s been a memorable event, one that makes our community so special. A special mention to Rob K for pulling all the stats togeather.

Brian, please can you keep it open until midnight and then close and move the archive thread.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Jiries
20 July 2022 17:13:24
Before closing this thread which furthest station up north that reached 100F
LeedsLad123
20 July 2022 17:19:18

Before closing this thread which furthest station up north that reached 100F

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Leeming I believe - 38.8C (101.8F)


 


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeming,_North_Yorkshire

Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Jiries
20 July 2022 17:19:19


I have just updated this list to include the manual stations.


 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Seem Birmingham not reached 38C 100F? as there not on the list, nearest to me is Coleshill than Coventry which my app Nuneaton briefly reached 39C 

Rob K
20 July 2022 17:27:39


 


Seem Birmingham not reached 38C 100F? as there not on the list, nearest to me is Coleshill than Coventry which my app Nuneaton briefly reached 39C 


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Birmingham airport reached 37C and Winterbourne 37.4. Coleshill was the nearest to break 38 but didn't beat the old record, which was my cutoff for that list.


 


Incidentally, I have found a link to one of the other mystery manual stations, Denver Complex near Downham Market. It looks like they may only upload their data once a month as there are only figures up to 1 July!


 


https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/observations/details/2022062911z6yt85qee63pqxyyb96scn7a


 


So there's a very very outside chance we might have another challenger.


A better placed manual station appears on the Met Office list, Tetford near Horncastle in Lincs, but there is no sign of it on WOW.

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Jiries
20 July 2022 17:41:10


 


Birmingham airport reached 37C and Winterbourne 37.4. Coleshill was the nearest to break 38 but didn't beat the old record, which was my cutoff for that list.


 


Incidentally, I have found a link to one of the other mystery manual stations, Denver Complex near Downham Market. It looks like they may only upload their data once a month as there are only figures up to 1 July!


 


https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/observations/details/2022062911z6yt85qee63pqxyyb96scn7a


 


So there's a very very outside chance we might have another challenger.


A better placed manual station appears on the Met Office list, Tetford near Horncastle in Lincs, but there is no sign of it on WOW.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Thanks for replying and really surprised how low 37C in Birmingham and perhaps the geographic area limited the heat amount compare to Nuneaton which is only 12 miles north east from there.  Nuneaton not far from Leicester and after that Nottingham.

Charmhills
20 July 2022 17:45:22

40c Heat, A One Off Or More To Come? - CW Weather (chorleyweather.com)


An interesting article.

Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 17:52:52

Apparently Fair Isle set its highest ever temperature yesterday as well 22.6c


 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
20 July 2022 18:10:43

Just searching through the WOW website and there are three other manual stations in the 39s that got missed off.


 


Wakefield (Thornes Park) 39.5C


Buntingford No 2 39.2C


Cawood 39.1C


 


Denver Complex (Norfolk), Wallington (Northumberland) and Oxford Radcliffe only report monthly so there's a while to wait there.

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Tim A
20 July 2022 18:20:21
I wondered if Cawood was still operational. To be honest thought that would be higher than Bramham and Wakefield as it's in that prime sea level location near Selby right in the southern Vale of York However never heard of it ever topping any top temp charts so perhaps it's in a local cool spot/ too close to the River Ooze.
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
scillydave
20 July 2022 21:50:11
Does anyone know what the CET was for yesterday? It must've smashed the record.
Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.
picturesareme
20 July 2022 22:09:11
Really humid today especially this evening.

Currently shy of 21C with a dew point a little over 18C so a relative humidity of around 86% 🥵 which is being made worse with no wind, and an indoor temperature much higher!
Rob K
21 July 2022 06:37:07

Does anyone know what the CET was for yesterday? It must've smashed the record.

Originally Posted by: scillydave 


28.1C mean, so almost 3C above the old record of 25.3C from July 2019)


37.3C max (pre-2022 record was 34.2C, although July 18 was 34.8C)


18.9C minimum, second highest on record (record is 19.5C in July 2016)

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
scillydave
21 July 2022 06:48:40


 


28.1C mean, so almost 3C above the old record of 25.3C from July 2019)


37.3C max (pre-2022 record was 34.2C, although July 18 was 34.8C)


18.9C minimum, second highest on record (record is 19.5C in July 2016)


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Wow - that's extraordinary.  I don't think that will be beaten for some considerable time.


Thanks for the info Rob

Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

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