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Rob K
20 July 2022 06:45:39

Weybourne 21.1C min last night, notably warm but now just a footnote.

As I just saw on Twitter, half the replies to the Met Office extremes thread are from people saying “Rubbish, my garden was hotter!” And the other half are from people saying “Rubbish, it wasn’t that hot, why are you taking temperatures next to a runway?” 😏

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Caz
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20 July 2022 06:57:58


 


Not even the winter of 62-63? That period of extreme weather lasted for 2 months, not 2 days.


But in your defence, I should mention that the 1947 winter, which happened for me at about the same age as you would have been in 1963,  doesn't figure as dramatically as 1963 when I was 20.


Originally Posted by: DEW 

No, not even being up to my knees as a school girl in the snowy early 60’s. We got a lot of snow but maybe not as much as you did, whereas in 2010, we had more snow than most and were completely cut off!  It was up to my knees then too but as an adult!  

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Tim A
20 July 2022 07:14:10


No, not even being up to my knees as a school girl in the snowy early 60’s. We got a lot of snow but maybe not as much as you did, whereas in 2010, we had more snow than most and were completely cut off!  It was up to my knees then too but as an adult!  


Originally Posted by: Caz 


It is quite possible your area has experienced  the highest UK temp and the deepest lowland snow in the last 30 years....

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Hungry Tiger
20 July 2022 07:24:32

Anyone wake up this morning thinking what the hell happened yesterday. I’m still in shock with what we experienced.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


Same here.

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Jason H
20 July 2022 07:28:58


Weybourne 21.1C min last night, notably warm but now just a footnote.

As I just saw on Twitter, half the replies to the Met Office extremes thread are from people saying “Rubbish, my garden was hotter!” And the other half are from people saying “Rubbish, it wasn’t that hot, why are you taking temperatures next to a runway?” 😏


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


That's basically how Twitter works. Hence why I never use it.

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Tim A
20 July 2022 07:29:19
I am not sure we will see such an event again for a long time. Not 40c across such a wide area. Everything needs to come together for it to happen, the country is so narrow and any influence from the North or Irish Seas and there is no chance.
I think the record may will be broken again soon but probably fairly localised in the SE.
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The Beast from the East
20 July 2022 07:46:45

I am not sure we will see such an event again for a long time. Not 40c across such a wide area. Everything needs to come together for it to happen, the country is so narrow and any influence from the North or Irish Seas and there is no chance.
I think the record may will be broken again soon but probably fairly localised in the SE.

Originally Posted by: Tim A 


Yes, I would agree. Could even happen later in the summer. The heat pool over southern europe is never going to be too far away and after today looks very dry in the SE so it wont take much


 

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Arcus
20 July 2022 07:48:55
It will never count for anything in the overall scheme of things, but a friend with a pretty reliable screened setup just south of York recorded 40.2c yesterday. Personally I got to 39.4c 10 miles north of York, not too far off Topcliffe's max which is a further 10 miles north from me.
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Rob K
20 July 2022 07:49:07
I think even with AGW this was quite a statistical outlier. Many places will have added 4 or 5 degrees to their previous records. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if those values across the north of England are never matched in my lifetime.

But as Tim says I could easily see Heathrow or somewhere like that snatch a 41C during one of the quick wafts of heat from the south that are becoming increasingly common. Given the level of heat to the south in the longer range model output I wouldn’t even rule it out next month!
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Snow Hoper
20 July 2022 08:25:06
Last night at midnight the temp was 21.7C, 50 mins later it had risen to 25.1C, madness.

Not quite a tropical night in the end at 19.8C. Only 0.2mm of rain added to the month which now stands at 1.6mm.
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Rob K
20 July 2022 08:30:14

So, half an hour till the Cambridge Botanic Garden thermometer gets read. I imagine they will tweet the result fairly quickly if it’s a new record.


FWIW in 2019 the NIAB reading was 38.1 and the BG was 38.7


on Monday the NIAB was 37.5 and the BG was 38.0


Yesterday the NIAB was 39.9.


Place your bets…

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bledur
20 July 2022 08:32:27


 


Yes, I would agree. Could even happen later in the summer. The heat pool over southern europe is never going to be too far away and after today looks very dry in the SE so it wont take much


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 The heat is quite often there, but it takes perfect synoptics to get it here. 

Rob K
20 July 2022 08:56:05


 


Surely the reporting software isn’t capped at 39.9C? If it’s true then someone has had, as we say down here, a right mare.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


I imagine it is capped to prevent spurious readings like 99.9 from automatically showing up, given that it is an automatically generated page. (Something similar might happen if the daily max was exactly 0.0 I expect!)


But they should have set the cap at a higher level than 40C.

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Saint Snow
20 July 2022 08:56:33


I would assume that the destructive London fires yesterday that seemed to occur at around the same time were started deliberately.


Originally Posted by: NMA 


 


The one at Wennington was apparently caused by a self-combusting compost heap in someone's garden


 


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Brian Gaze
20 July 2022 09:17:41

Nothing on Cambridge BG yet?

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Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 09:28:10


Nothing on Cambridge BG yet?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Looks like 39.9c according to their Twitter.  Shame


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://twitter.com/CUBotanicGarden%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Eauthor&ved=2ahUKEwi86-yLlIf5AhUrSUEAHbZtAQgQ6F56BAgKEAE&usg=AOvVaw1gYhAlV3tTGnzmt6XWdNJB


 

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Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 09:32:32

Maybe somewhere else might squeeze 40.4c but unlikely.  So Coningsby is the new record holder.  Wonder for how long?

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Zubzero
20 July 2022 09:32:53
Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 09:33:48


 


Yeah pity I thought it would be higher


Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


Yes lots of 39.9s yesterday. 

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Zubzero
20 July 2022 09:37:40


 


Yes lots of 39.9s yesterday. 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Was such widespread heat yesterday. Was just luck of the draw where the stations were, could of been just down the road and recorded slightly higher

Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 09:40:57


 


Was such widespread heat yesterday. Was just luck of the draw where the stations were, could of been just down the road and recorded slightly higher


Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


 


Yes if we had a better more widespread weather station network I think we would have seen 41c/42c yesterday. 

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Col
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20 July 2022 09:42:54


 


Was such widespread heat yesterday. Was just luck of the draw where the stations were, could of been just down the road and recorded slightly higher


Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


There was but they hadn't cut the grass so it was disqualified.

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Zubzero
20 July 2022 09:42:56
And for a station to record 39.9C and still lose the record,bet not many would guess that outcome
Heavy Weather 2013
20 July 2022 09:51:47
Are there any other stations to still report today?
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Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 09:58:20

Are there any other stations to still report today?

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I think Brogdale still has to , Tim S thinks has a chance. 40.4c seems a push though.  Maybe somewhere random in the East Midlands might do it but tough.

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