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ballamar
21 November 2022 11:03:29
Could be some foggy ice days particularly on the Para run giving it a wintry feel
Surrey John
21 November 2022 11:21:24
Quite interesting Sea surface chart for North Atlantic
Not sure why there is a very cold area from Greenland towards Faroes

https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=euro&MODELL=sst&MODELLTYP=3&BASE=-&VAR=2&HH=0&ARCHIV=0&ZOOM=0&PERIOD=&WMO= 

Is this something worth keeping an eye on ?



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Gusty
21 November 2022 11:38:01

As alluded by other there are sign of higher pressure, particularly for the south as we move towards the end of the month. No blow torch, no depth of cold. Seasonal 


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Rob K
21 November 2022 11:54:17

GFS onboard, ECM not awful but a little wobble. Things are disrupted in the usual flow and we might be on the verge of a decent blocked cold spell. GFS no doubt will drop the idea in the 6z!

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


I didn't see the 0Z, but the parallel 6Z looks fairly full of potential. The old school run less so.


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ballamar
21 November 2022 12:19:46


 


I didn't see the 0Z, but the parallel 6Z looks fairly full of potential. The old school run less so.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


obviously the parallel is more accurate with blocking 😂

Rob K
21 November 2022 12:44:39


 


obviously the parallel is more accurate with blocking 😂


Originally Posted by: ballamar 


Only 8 days until the parallel run takes over as the main run so I'll just ignore the old one now 


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Lionel Hutz
21 November 2022 15:03:04

Quite interesting Sea surface chart for North Atlantic
Not sure why there is a very cold area from Greenland towards Faroes

https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=euro&MODELL=sst&MODELLTYP=3&BASE=-&VAR=2&HH=0&ARCHIV=0&ZOOM=0&PERIOD=&WMO=

Is this something worth keeping an eye on ?


Originally Posted by: Surrey John 


Not sure that that cold area is of much significance. However, SST's are well above average over the North Atlantic(bar a few fairly localised exceptions);


https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/ocean/sst/anomaly/


The bad thing about SST's like that is that cold winds will be modified by the warm ocean. On the plus side, though, if we can get air that's cold enough, the high SST's will allow serious shower convection with copious amounts of snow! 


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Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
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Osprey
21 November 2022 15:37:49


 


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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Thank you Brian 


 


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Gandalf The White
21 November 2022 15:58:23


 


Only 8 days until the parallel run takes over as the main run so I'll just ignore the old one now 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I’m looking forward to the ensemble suite running on the new version; nice as some of the charts emerging from the new version are (from a cold weather perspective) it’s impossible to make any judgment without the wider picture.


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ballamar
21 November 2022 16:31:02
That block on GFS is huge and beginning to get some influence
Saint Snow
21 November 2022 16:38:01

That block on GFS is huge and beginning to get some influence

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


 


It's in a funny position, with energy going over the top of it. Not a great block to bring us cold at this time of year (ideally it'd move around 1000 westwards and 500 miles north!



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moomin75
21 November 2022 17:07:24

And you get your wish a little bit further on in the run Saint. It's a humdinger for this early in the season. I spy a Murr Sausage 😂😂


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Heavy Weather 2013
21 November 2022 17:08:30
I’ve been out watching England. Can someone put a very brief summary
Mark
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moomin75
21 November 2022 17:09:40

I’ve been out watching England. Can someone put a very brief summary

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Heights rising to our North and East and then building from Scandi to Greenland bring a cold Easterly and risk of snow showers.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
doctormog
21 November 2022 17:13:30

I’ve been out watching England. Can someone put a very brief summary

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Cool, damp, cloudy easterly muck.


Saint Snow
21 November 2022 17:15:31


Heights rising to our North and East and then building from Scandi to Greenland bring a cold Easterly and risk of snow showers.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 


Cool, damp, cloudy easterly muck.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 



 


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Saint Snow
21 November 2022 17:18:03

That GFS 12z is beautiful in the latter stages. The first 'Carlsberg' run of the season?


GFSP isn't a million miles away in the egernal evolution, eaither.


 


 



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Taylor1740
21 November 2022 18:51:06


 


Cool, damp, cloudy easterly muck.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Yep that's what it looks like to me, even if it does set up per the GFS 12z, which I highly doubt anyway, there will be a lack of cold air to tap into and we will get drizzly 5c days and frost free nights.


NW Leeds - 150m amsl
White Meadows
21 November 2022 19:06:32
Fun trends continue this evening. Op & control favour some sort of anticyclone to our N/Nw/NE (delete accordingly)
ECM not in disagreement in its closing timeframe either
ballamar
21 November 2022 19:14:33

Fun trends continue this evening. Op & control favour some sort of anticyclone to our N/Nw/NE (delete accordingly)
ECM not in disagreement in its closing timeframe either

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


indeed no need to look at detail, trend of getting blocking to the east to influence us is what we need to look for. Has been trending better over the last few runs

Hippydave
21 November 2022 20:51:12

GFS ens have decent support for some sort of pressure rise to the North East or just over the UK and ECM op at least agrees at the T240 point.


I suspect though 850s of -7c or higher would for the most part bring cold rain and a fair bit of dank weather but encouraging setup at least and increases the possibility of getting cold enough air in for some wintry stuff.


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fullybhoy
21 November 2022 22:47:23


 


Yep that's what it looks like to me, even if it does set up per the GFS 12z, which I highly doubt anyway, there will be a lack of cold air to tap into and we will get drizzly 5c days and frost free nights.


Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 


I’d love a shot of your crystal ball 👍🏻


Aldo
Glasgow 165m/asl
 
ballamar
21 November 2022 23:13:21


 


I’d love a shot of your crystal ball 👍🏻


Originally Posted by: fullybhoy 


don’t forget he saw mild SW winds a couple of days back 😂


Codge are you there?!!

fairweather
22 November 2022 00:59:50


 


Cool, damp, cloudy easterly muck.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Yes, I'd say more likely than Moomin's optimistic summary 


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Surrey John
22 November 2022 07:38:30
This article (which is headlined about an Adriatic storm that will bring snow to Alps) then says that GFS and ECMWF are completely different after this storm, former incicating colder weather to Europe and other going for an Azores high

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/powerful-winter-storm-forecast-2022-europe-alps-blizzard-heavy-snow-winds-rrc/ 


Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire
35m ASL

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