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Retron
05 April 2024 12:57:45

We could do with some of that warmer air up here.

The temperature here in Edinburgh is still stuck at around 6°C as I write, and it's still raining!!🤢😡

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


Blimey... the last time there was a high of 6C or less down here was on the 20th January!

It could well hit 20 or 21 tomorrow...

MetO forecast for the SE:
A dry and bright day with plenty of sunshine. Very warm but with strong, blustery winds. Maximum temperature 21 °C.

(It certainly felt more like summer out there this morning - I had the neighbour's dog for an hour earlier and spent some of the time chasing him - and being chased by him - round the garden. Knackering, I was sweating buckets with the humidity!)
Leysdown, north Kent
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05 April 2024 13:16:12
20.6C on the outdoor thermometer (shaded, but may get some radiated heat from the house), 52C hot water from panels on the roof.
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johncs2016
05 April 2024 14:10:24

Blimey... the last time there was a high of 6C or less down here was on the 20th January!

It could well hit 20 or 21 tomorrow...

MetO forecast for the SE:
A dry and bright day with plenty of sunshine. Very warm but with strong, blustery winds. Maximum temperature 21 °C.

(It certainly felt more like summer out there this morning - I had the neighbour's dog for an hour earlier and spent some of the time chasing him - and being chased by him - round the garden. Knackering, I was sweating buckets with the humidity!)

Originally Posted by: Retron 



It's not so much the cold temperatures which are the main concern here though.

There's been so much rain here recently that rail services between Edinburgh and Glasgow have been cancelled because of flooding on the tracks and that is far more serious.
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Crepuscular Ray
05 April 2024 14:44:42
Back in Edinburgh after a miserable journey. Snow petered out around 10am and the journey south was through slush floods and spray!! 3cm of snow around Dunkeld and 5cm just south of Perth. It's still raining in Edinburgh and 6 C at 3pm.
We've had nowhere near double figures yet here this month ❄️🌧🥶
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
johncs2016
05 April 2024 15:47:26

Back in Edinburgh after a miserable journey. Snow petered out around 10am and the journey south was through slush floods and spray!! 3cm of snow around Dunkeld and 5cm just south of Perth. It's still raining in Edinburgh and 6 C at 3pm.
We've had nowhere near double figures yet here this month ❄️🌧🥶

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 



As I write, our maximum temperatures are currently running around 4.5°C below the 1991-2020 average at Edinburgh Gogarbank with the average temperatures running around 2.2°C below that same average (night time minimums are around average although this is only due to cloudy and overcast skies which have stopped the temperatures from dropping at night and stopped us from getting any frosts).

That is in complete contrast to those consistently warmer than average CET figures which I keep on seeing every day on that particular thread.

That in turn shows that it is a completely different world down south at the moment as regards to temperatures from what we're experiencing up here.
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
LeedsLad123
05 April 2024 16:24:54
Been a pleasant day in Leeds, currently 17C with sunshine, quite breezy though.

Tomorrow we could exceed 20C for the first time this year.
Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Retron
05 April 2024 16:33:37

Back in Edinburgh after a miserable journey. Snow petered out around 10am and the journey south was through slush floods and spray!! 3cm of snow around Dunkeld and 5cm just south of Perth.

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 


How I envy you... 3 and a bit years and counting since the last covering of snow on the ground here.

Snow on the ground in April IMBY is the stuff of legend, mind you, it hasn't happened for 40 years and I suspect it never will again during my lifetime. I also suspect I'll die without having seen snow falling and settling on Christmas Day, as that last happened in 1970 - almost a decade before I was even born.

Anyway, no such issues with very mild weather, we have that in abundance! You're more than welcome to it, frankly.

 
Leysdown, north Kent
Crepuscular Ray
05 April 2024 17:10:11

How I envy you... 3 and a bit years and counting since the last covering of snow on the ground here.

Snow on the ground in April IMBY is the stuff of legend, mind you, it hasn't happened for 40 years and I suspect it never will again during my lifetime. I also suspect I'll die without having seen snow falling and settling on Christmas Day, as that last happened in 1970 - almost a decade before I was even born.

Anyway, no such issues with very mild weather, we have that in abundance! You're more than welcome to it, frankly.

 

Originally Posted by: Retron 



I would love to have a few dry days with temperatures above 14 C with some brightness. Not much to ask!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
Crepuscular Ray
05 April 2024 17:18:36
So, currently it's 5 or 6 C in Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen and yet it's 13 C in Ayr and Berwick and 15/16 C in Carlisle and Newcastle.......remarkable!!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
doctormog
05 April 2024 17:32:53
Some sunshine and a high of more than 6 or 7°C would be very much appreciated here too. It just feels like an extension of winter currently.
richardabdn
05 April 2024 18:42:45
April feels like an extension of winter every year nowadays although that would be far too complimentary about this putrid week of abject filth like nothing on earth I've ever witinessed at this time of year. 

Even the winter just gone which was the wettest in 140 years was nowhere near as vile as this. Even December had some decent days and usable weather. This is catastrophically dire, repulsive and hideous garbage that you just wouldn't realistically expect at any time of year.

57.8 hours of rain already this month which is more than the entirety of every April since 2006 bar 2008, 2012, 2016 and 2022. The mean maximum of 6.1C is colder than all but 7 days in February and likely the coldest for the first 5 days of April since 1989 possibly even 1970.

It's also been completely sunless bar 2.3 hours yesterday which was still a godawful day. This Spring has now had 14 completely sunless days which equals what 2018 recorded in it's entirety and only last year, with 19, had more for the entire season.

I can see the 15.1C recorded on 2nd February remaining the warmest day of the year even at the close of this detestable April. The run of three consecutive Aprils without reaching 16C is already a record, there never having been more than two between the 1940s and 2020s.

It's just excrutiatingly awful and an extreme danger to good health and wellbeing 🤬
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2024 - 2023 without the Good Bits
Crepuscular Ray
05 April 2024 19:13:01
I feel Richard's pain......he pretty much sums up the Edinburgh Spring so far......hideous! There can't be many inhabitated places with such poor general weather as the northern UK!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
johncs2016
05 April 2024 19:44:00

I feel Richard's pain......he pretty much sums up the Edinburgh Spring so far......hideous! There can't be many inhabitated places with such poor general weather as the northern UK!

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 



Actually, Richard's sunshine total beats the total for Edinburgh Gogarbank by 0.2 hours (which is 12 minutes), so he can at least say that he's not technically speaking, not been in the dullest part of Scotland this week.

However, 0.2 hours is very little so that will no doubt be a very little consolation for him.
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
richardabdn
06 April 2024 09:39:31
It just gets worse and worse. Not only do we have yet another day of vile, cold, grey, murky and wet easterly rubbish but there is now the added misery of wind to contend with. When the hell did we ever used to get wind and murk at the same time? 🤬🤬

2022's rain duration now surpassed and 2008 will be soon that will leave just the revolting April's of 2012 and 2016 ahead of this horror show and they would be about the only ones I've experienced to have had six days as disgusting as this in their entirety. 

When I was down in London I vistited the Museum of the Mind at the Royal Bethlem Psychiatric Hospital, on a miserable wet morning, where they had a brilliant sculpture which just sums up how I feel enduring life in this rotten lousy country.

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No wonder there is a mental health crisis unfolding in this grim wasteland. Working all week to end up slapped in the face with this filth at the weekend. Where is the quality of life in being trapped in your house like a vegetable because the weather is constantly so hideous?

I have often said the quality of life in this country is the worst in the developed world but with what we are now expected to contend with I would go as far as to say living in a mud hut in Mali would be more enjoyable 🤬🤬🤬
 
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Tractor Boy
10 April 2024 12:59:08
I am usually a proponent of accepting bad weather to appreciate the good. But I've had enough. What does it take for us to get a decent high pressure that hangs around for at least a few days?! We've had rain from every direction for months on end. Even the "dry" days are wet. I go outside at the promise of 3 hours dry for it to start raining within minutes. All the fields are sodden. I can't get any outdoor jobs done. And I know fully well that when the dry weather does come, we'll have a drought within 2 months.

Moan over. 
Dave
Farndale, North York Moors
ozone_aurora
10 April 2024 13:04:36
An another ********* miserable day here in Sheffield. The abysmal 'blade runner' type climate continues! 🤬
Col
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10 April 2024 16:54:54

An another ********* miserable day here in Sheffield. The abysmal 'blade runner' type climate continues! 🤬

Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 



'Blade Runner weather' I like that. I know I live in a wet part of the country but this is piss poor even by our standards. There has been rain on 9 out of the 10 days in April so far and significant rain too, not just the odd light shower. And April is supposed to be one of the drier months of the year! We need a weather 'type change' very quickly.
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
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http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg
Joe Bloggs
10 April 2024 16:57:19
This weather is doing my tits in. 

Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

Jiries
10 April 2024 17:01:42

'Blade Runner weather' I like that. I know I live in a wet part of the country but this is piss poor even by our standards. There has been rain on 9 out of the 10 days in April so far and significant rain too, not just the odd light shower. And April is supposed to be one of the drier months of the year! We need a weather 'type change' very quickly.

Originally Posted by: Col 



It so hard to find any settled weather at all and this countiy idiot climate cannot realised it Spring now instead of Autumn all the time.    I like the way how Cyprus this month run was 33.6C early April heatwave follow by proper 2 days storms with 33.6mm and 44.6mm of rain totally 81.2, max temps was 19.4C and today recovery back.  It nice if our climate does that with intense rain for a day or 2 then sod off quickly with lot of sunny dry days regardless the temperatures so good for farmers, tourism and always seasonal.    
Col
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10 April 2024 18:27:19

It so hard to find any settled weather at all and this countiy idiot climate cannot realised it Spring now instead of Autumn all the time.    I like the way how Cyprus this month run was 33.6C early April heatwave follow by proper 2 days storms with 33.6mm and 44.6mm of rain totally 81.2, max temps was 19.4C and today recovery back.  It nice if our climate does that with intense rain for a day or 2 then sod off quickly with lot of sunny dry days regardless the temperatures so good for farmers, tourism and always seasonal.    

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



But our climate has never been like the Medditerean climate, a few days of unsettled weather then a return to sunny/warm conditions. It's not how it works here. It's generally unsettled but with periods of more settled conditions thrown in. That's how it is in the mid latitudes westerlies I'm afraid.
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg
richardabdn
10 April 2024 19:42:46
Yet another vile write-off day. Effectively sunless and constant rain from lunchtime till evening 😩🤮

There is no question that this is the worst ever start to April. Just off the scale in terms of rainfall. Over 80mm already and only around 1 in 6 Aprils manage that for the full month. 2012 was slightly duller but at least had the interest of snow.

There has been nothing at all of interest. Just stupefying amounts of rain and cloud with dire cold day temperatures and mild nights. A putrid combination like nothing on earth we would ever have seen before. There hasn't been a frost in over 5 weeks which is unprecedented this early in spring. Not even in the warmest years never mind anything as cold as this as we continues to endure day after day of winter 5-7C temperatures. Just a brief respite when it got to 14C but didn't feel anything like as warm due to the totally revolting wind. Just nothing decent at all.

Rainfall for the first 10 days of April:

2024 81.2
2016 48.8
2022 48.6
2008 38.6
2012 33.8
2019 29.2
2023 23.8
2009 22.2
2018 22.0
2017 21.4
2006 20.0
2014 10.6
2021 7.2
2015 5.6
2010 4.6
2013 4.2
2011 2.2
2020 1.8
2007 0.2
 
and sunshine hours

2017 77.0
2015 70.3
2007 68.6
2011 65.4
2021 64.4
2020 54.1
2010 48.8
2022 48.3
2008 46.3
2018 37.9
2013 37.2
2019 36.0
2023 35.9
2009 24.1
2014 23.9
2016 21.4
2024 18.7
2012 14.5

An absolutely hideous performance that on it's own would stand out as extraordinarily grim. In the context of whats been endured since September 2022 there are no words 🤢🤢🤢
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Jiries
10 April 2024 21:09:38

But our climate has never been like the Medditerean climate, a few days of unsettled weather then a return to sunny/warm conditions. It's not how it works here. It's generally unsettled but with periods of more settled conditions thrown in. That's how it is in the mid latitudes westerlies I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by: Col 



Also not normal for UK to stay unsettled for nearly a year now. For our latitude we should be getting 50/50 of settled and unsettled times with Spring and summer more on settled side and more unsettled in Autumn to winter.
johncs2016
10 April 2024 23:42:51

... There hasn't been a frost in over 5 weeks which is unprecedented this early in spring. ...

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 



In recent springs, we have often had far more frosts during that spring than what had during the winter before that, especially if that preceding winter has been disappointing with very little in the way of snow or frost.

However, that hasn't been the case this year even though last winter was once again, very poor in terms of any snow or frost.

Last month, the number of air frosts here in Edinburgh was well below average once again and during this month so far, we haven't even had as much as a ground frost, let alone an actual air frost.

I know that we're almost halfway through the spring and into British Summer Time but even with that, I still think that it's a bit early to be getting no frosts at all in any given month.

After all, we would normally expect to be getting just under 3 air frosts on average during April here in Edinburgh and just under one air frost on average even during May.

It is then only during the summer months that we would expect to get no air frosts at all on average and even then, we can still be prone to the odd ground frost on a clear night, especially during June.
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Bolty
11 April 2024 17:09:12
Nice to have a proper warm feeling day that hasn't be ruined by heavy rain or blustery winds, even if it has still been on the cloudy side. It's not to last though, as the garbage that's dominated most of the last 9 months looks set to return this weekend.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
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Tim A
12 April 2024 08:09:22
Yesterday was the first day this year (apart from when we have been away) that the heating wasn't on at all.  Felt effortlessly warm even though it wasn't always sunny. Shame how things are going to deteriorate.  Wet, cool at times but not cold enough for snow. Story of the Spring so far.  

(I know overall it has been above average  for most but the cool spells since March have been very mediocre and not cold enough for snow. 
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

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