Yes but the anomalies in the map will be based on local values not UK-wide values. That was somewhat my point, despite the lower anomalies the temperatures that pictures posted were still achieved. This  is the link to the absolute averaged seasonal maxima.

Edit: One of the purposes of the anomaly maps serve is to give an impression of what the weather in your locality was like compared to what would be expected if you got the “average” weather for time period. They have their uses and their flaws.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

That i posted?? The temperatures that i mentioned were primarily summer so far, except for reference to temperatures around 26C being achieved a couple of times in spring.  I don't recall saying spring was below average temperature wise either just that it was largely rubbish. 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Yes, I realise that and my initial comments were in relation to the spring temperatures, indicating how despite a mediocre spring the climate in your neck of the woods still allowed warmer temperatures such as 26°C. You didn’t say it was below average, neither did I. You seem to have misinterpreted my post. I said that the temperatures you posted (referring to the spring 26°C) were achieved despite the fact that (positive) anomalies for your area were lower than elsewhere. I didn’t say they were negative i.e. below average.

My original comment in reply to your post was “It just goes to show the difference in the climate in that part of the country as parts of the south coast were one of the few areas of the UK not to have above average daily max temperatures in the spring”. That was it.

Anything that followed was a rather pedantic discussion on what technically constitutes above average temperatures.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

The positive anomalies for my area and indeed most of the south coast are on par with the majority of the rest of the UK in the chart you posted. Its just an area roughly containing the New Forest and the IOW that would seem to have been average..

The reasons you'll probably find that people were complaining about the spring down here would have been because of the excess rain & cloudiness. 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Probably still result in N or E winds with cloud here. Doesn't seem to matter what the synoptics are any more🤢

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

Was spot on with that statement. All the 'warmer' weather has brought is more toxic grey crud. Supposed to be the best weekend of the year and it is utterly vile yet again.

Forecast was for early cloud to clear with plenty of sunshine and a max of 20C. The reality is the complete opposite. Early sun disappeared by 10am to leave more foul ugly grey overcast thick enough to give a period of light rain and the temperature is a dire 15C. The worst day since last Sunday. Yesterday was crap as well but at least it stayed dry.

Nobody would be allowed to be this usless at their job and get away with it time again. These clowns are arrogant to claim forecast accuracy has improved beyond recognition yet they are always completely wrong. There has never been a time during my life when forecasts have consistently proved utter garbage within a timeframe of less than 24 hours.

I really don't know how I can go on enduring this filth every weekend. Getting no enjoyment out of live whatsoever. It went beyond depressing a long time ago. This is far worse than the 2007-12 summers. At least back then we had seen some good weather each spring. This year we have had nothing. Just month after month of abject misery 🤮

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

According to Michael (otherwise known as the Doc or Doctormog on here), today was actually quite a nice day in your part of the world today, and you at least got into the low 20s°C in Aberdeen during yesterday.

Here in Edinburgh, yet more cloud spoiled yet another day after a sunny start. We now have 8 days left in this month and we yet we still haven't recorded a even a single 20+°C maximum temperature here since the very first day of this month.

All of a sudden, it just seems to be asking too much for us get a 20+°C maximum here even though there are places even further north than the Arctic Circle which have been known to experience temperatures approaching 30°C at this time of year.

What's happening just now is the complete polar and summer opposite of what happens all too often during the winter when too much cloud and sometimes too much wind causes the temperatures at night to refuse to drop, thus preventing us from getting a frost on that particular night.

Now, it is clear that too much cloud is preventing our temperatures from exceeding or even reaching that elusive 20°C mark at the moment.😡

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp4RRAEgpeU 

27C with lot of sunshine there, so shame on you UK climate that cannot cope with those temperatures so brought clouds in to stop it.  Like what John said in Edinburgh did not go over 20C is very embassing that our location are further south than Arctic Circle are cooler than them.  I see tourists wearing shorts and t-shirts on.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

A very cool, wet, stormy showery election day for most, as a low pressure takes control of UK, according to this morning's GFS. A bad sign for July and August. 😞

Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 

Election day might well be cool and showery but it has no bearing on the rest of the summers weather. What is your reasoning for it being a bad sign?🤔

Originally Posted by: bledur 

A very cool, wet, stormy showery election day for most, as a low pressure takes control of UK, according to this morning's GFS. A bad sign for July and August. 😞

Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 

The first full day of unpleasantness... the thermometer was stuck between 24 and 25 most of the day yesterday, and unbroken sunshine all day long and no wind for much of the afternoon meant my house turned into a sauna. 29C upstairs by early evening and it's still 25C now, even with the windows open all night. Downstairs was 25C, falling to 22C this morning.

Even the portable a/c struggled... getting down to 23C, and making a right racket too (I had my window closed, of course, and blocked up the doorway as best I could). I turned it off just before midnight, having been unable to sleep very well with it going DRRRR.... DRRRR.... DRRRR.... out in the hallway. My reward was a sweaty, sticky night where my bed was damp from sweat this morning. Wondefrul, not... utter cack, frankly.

Beats me how anyone can enjoy sleeping in these conditions, it really does!

Two more crud nights to come, and the usual pattern is 3 crap nights then an okay one through sheer exhaustion.

Originally Posted by: Retron 

It was a warm night here too with an overnight low of 16.8°C. 

On a different note we did have a very impressive 16.2 hours of sunshine here yesterday!

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

A short-lived spell of very warm weather, but I used today the best I could. My girlfriend and I took a daytrip to Lytham St Annes this afternoon and both got decent tans in the strong sunshine. There was also the obligatory ice cream and chippy lunch in there too. I prefer Lytham massively over Blackpool as it's quieter and not full of drunken idiots.It was a great day and hopefully there will be more spells of nice weather this summer, though the models at the moment don't fill me with much hope.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

So did you go to St Annes (pier) or Lytham (windmill)?

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow