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SEMerc
17 December 2011 15:30:06


So the FA, after two months of nothing, run a three day investigation into the Suarez racism claims and then still postpone a result until next Tuesday.


I presume so his ban coincides with him being out for the Utd game.....ahem...


 


 

Originally Posted by: haghir22 


I wouldn't worry; they weren't going to beat United anyway.

Gooner
17 December 2011 19:52:13

An excellent point for Wigan


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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SEMerc
17 December 2011 20:24:53


An excellent point for Wigan


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


And Spurs.

Matty H
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18 December 2011 13:17:35
Man Utd 2-0 up against qpr (my other tip for relegation along with Blackburn and Bolton), so easy it could easily be 4 or 5. Always good to see Barton cock up and cost his team a goal.
SEMerc
18 December 2011 13:34:57

Game over.


Portsmouth-Southampton promises to be a better spectacle.

David M Porter
18 December 2011 14:32:46


Game over.


Portsmouth-Southampton promises to be a better spectacle.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


The battle of the south coast!


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Matty H
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18 December 2011 14:59:16

Game over.


Portsmouth-Southampton promises to be a better spectacle.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Only it wasn't. Predictable draw I suppose
future_is_orange
18 December 2011 17:17:38


Game over.


Portsmouth-Southampton promises to be a better spectacle.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Only it wasn't. Predictable draw I suppose

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


The pre and post match shenanigans in Pompey would have been a better spectacle then the game. Scummers are totaly limp when it comes south coast punch ups !!

SEMerc
18 December 2011 17:32:47

Shiteh 1-0 up on Van Persie.


Van Persie on the ropes.

CAPE-steve
18 December 2011 18:25:15
Great game between Citeh and Arsenal. The first 20 mins of that second half were unreal!
Gandalf The White
18 December 2011 18:48:51


An excellent point for Wigan


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


LOL.  At least we got more points off Man City this week than a certain other London club....


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Karl Guille
18 December 2011 19:59:41

Not the most convincing of wins but 3 vital points for Spurs nonetheless.  And a goal for the forgotten Russian too!!!! 


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SEMerc
18 December 2011 22:17:11

Chavs will be pleased that Lennon has probably torn his hamstring. So that's a 4-6 week layoff.


I still think we have enough to do them on Thursday however.

Gooner
19 December 2011 09:25:19



An excellent point for Wigan


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


LOL.  At least we got more points off Man City this week than a certain other London club....


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I don't do gloating always comes back to bite you, of course we can always discuss how our two teams got on when they met a few weeks ago...........................................................noooooooooooo its ok, best not mention that eh


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Gandalf The White
19 December 2011 15:16:05




An excellent point for Wigan


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


LOL.  At least we got more points off Man City this week than a certain other London club....


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I don't do gloating always comes back to bite you, of course we can always discuss how our two teams got on when they met a few weeks ago...........................................................noooooooooooo its ok, best not mention that eh


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 



OK, my mistake - perhaps I should just have said "An excellent three points for Man City" instead....


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NUT
20 December 2011 20:33:16

Bllackburn 2-0 down and how the hell is keano still in a job there!


 


This is significalt for suarez..............


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16186556.stm

Matty H
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20 December 2011 20:37:26
Kean will be sacked either tonight or tomorrow. You can stake everything you own on that.
haghir22
20 December 2011 20:46:37


Bllackburn 2-0 down and how the hell is keano still in a job there!


 


This is significalt for suarez..............


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16186556.stm


Originally Posted by: NUT 


No evidence even from the Utd players, Liverpool official statement is very very strong, this is going to run and run especially when Terry gets away scott free.


FA are so two faced, pleading for Rooney to get his ban diminished yet giving 8 game ban to Suarez for, quote, 'insulting language' not racist language. This could open a whole can of worms with players saying ;he called me this, he called me that'...etc etc


I will state that if the evidence had been definite my obvious bias would have been irrelevent as there is no place for racism anywhere, but read the report and it says that Evra quoted, 'Luis Suarez is not a racist'.


YNWA
haghir22
20 December 2011 20:55:57
 
 

Humour me...


 


Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him. 




 


We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment.  We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.

We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.

The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion.  We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.

LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise.  It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act.  It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.

It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'.  The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.

Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black.  He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.

He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.

It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.

It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.

We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms.  Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.


YNWA
John p
20 December 2011 21:52:28

 
 

Humour me...


 


Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him. 




 


We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment.  We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.

We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.

The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion.  We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.

LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise.  It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act.  It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.

It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'.  The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.

Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black.  He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.

He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.

It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.

It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.

We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms.  Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.

Originally Posted by: haghir22 



I have to say, for an official website for a one great club, that is a disgusting statement.
To roll out what is no more than a 'some of my best friends are black' excuse is a very poor show, as is aiming for Evra to get a ban.

As a proven racist, Suarez should be sacked, as would I if it happened in my work place.

Camberley, Surrey
Saint Snow
20 December 2011 21:56:36

Kangaroo court dishing out an unprecedented travesty of a punishment for a bit of handbags. I personally thought there'd be no ban whatsoever - at worst the 'evidence' was inconclusive.


If the FA thought they were gaining credibility by going OTT cos it's 'racism', then they've achieved just the opposite.


Liverpool bound to appeal and I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes an external legal issue



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Saint Snow
20 December 2011 21:58:04

As a proven racist, Suarez should be sacked, as would I if it happened in my work place.

Originally Posted by: John p 


Were you one of the FA panel? Because you seem to ignore the facts of the case and reach for the black cap without a thought and before listening to anything said.



Martin
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John p
20 December 2011 21:59:41

As a proven racist, Suarez should be sacked, as would I if it happened in my work place.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Were you one of the FA panel? Because you seem to ignore the facts of the case and reach for the black cap without a thought and before listening to anything said.

Originally Posted by: John p 



If Suarez was a Man Utd player, you'd be saying the same thing would you?

You miss the point that he admitted saying it!
Camberley, Surrey
CAPE-steve
20 December 2011 22:02:27
I was surprised at the sentence to be honest.

Anyway away from all that, the Blackburn vs Bolton game was enthralling. I'll be surprised if Kean is still in charge this weekend.
Saint Snow
20 December 2011 22:07:09


As a proven racist, Suarez should be sacked, as would I if it happened in my work place.

Originally Posted by: John p 


Were you one of the FA panel? Because you seem to ignore the facts of the case and reach for the black cap without a thought and before listening to anything said.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

If Suarez was a Man Utd player, you'd be saying the same thing would you? You miss the point that he admitted saying it!

Originally Posted by: John p 


He admitted saying a word that, in his home country, isn't a racist term - negrito


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/spanish-slang-may-get-suarez-off-the-hook-6261881.html


Additionally, if people of Afro-Caribbean descent are free to call each other '[censored]' then, given Suarez himself is one-quarter Afro-Carribean, where is the genetic line drawn?



Martin
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