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Hungry Tiger
24 June 2013 09:13:52

Still below average.


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-0.4C below.


 


 


 


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speckledjim
24 June 2013 17:51:44
only 0.1c below average according to metoffice, should end month slightly above I would think.
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ARTzeman
25 June 2013 09:08:56

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Metcheck  13.30C.    -0.85C. Below Average


 


 


My Mean 14.5C.






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Steam Fog
26 June 2013 07:07:35
Philip Eden has the following to 25 June.

Temp 13.8 (-0.5)
Rain 56%
Sunshine 103%

So sunshine and temperature in the average range (just for temperature) and rainfall drier than average.

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ARTzeman
26 June 2013 11:53:42

Metcheck  13.37 C.   -0.78 C.   Below Average.


 


 


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KevBrads1
26 June 2013 16:01:52
If June comes in below the 1961-90 average, it will be the first time since 1961-90 averages came into existence that the CET has returned 6 consecutive months below 1961-90 averages.

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lanky
27 June 2013 10:44:20

MetO are having an update day today


13.8 (-0.2) to the 26th June


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


 


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ARTzeman
27 June 2013 10:52:43

Metcheck 13.40 C.   -0.75 C.  Below Average


 


My Mean 14.6






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Steam Fog
27 June 2013 11:38:29


MetO are having an update day today


13.8 (-0.2) to the 26th June


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


 

Originally Posted by: lanky 


Philip Eden also updated to 13.8 to 26th June.


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Rain way down at 54%


Sunshine not far off average at 103%.

ARTzeman
28 June 2013 08:42:16

Metcheck  13.40 C.  -0.75 C.  Below Average


 


 


My mean 14.6 C. 






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ARTzeman
28 June 2013 11:16:15

Met Office Hadley    13.8 C.   Anomaly  -0.2 C.   Provisional to  27th....






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28 June 2013 21:07:17

12C here which is -0.9C
We might edge up a bit but that's yet another well below average month for sure. 


ARTzeman
29 June 2013 09:52:42

Metcheck 13.44C   -0.70C  Below Average..


 


My Mean 14.6C.






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Global Warming
29 June 2013 12:00:58

My current CET estimate is only 13.55C to yesterday which is almost 0.4C below the Hadley figure of 13.94C


I estimate the CET will finish at 13.66C.



ARTzeman
30 June 2013 07:25:10

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Metcheck  13.52 C.    -0.62 C.  Below Average..


 


My Mean Reads  14.7 C.






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Global Warming
30 June 2013 11:40:11

Just a tad late but here are the predictions for June.


Younger Dryas
30 June 2013 19:18:36

I calculate the final CET to be 13.67c, probably a few hundredths less than what GW will find it to be, but my mean absolute error for the last 3 months is 0.05c, so the Hadley value should be close to this.


June was only 0.14c warmer than last year and, but for last year, it was the coolest June since 1991. Six below average months on the trot. Coldest March to June period since 1891


All of which is curious because I've kept reading in the model thread over the last month about how warm it was going to be. There were posts actually reporting cool conditions, but few actually forecasting them, yet I could've sworn I saw such conditions projected in the models. What could explain this apparent paradox?

Steam Fog
30 June 2013 19:53:04


I calculate the final CET to be 13.67c, probably a few hundredths less than what GW will find it to be, but my mean absolute error for the last 3 months is 0.05c, so the Hadley value should be close to this.


June was only 0.14c warmer than last year and, but for last year, it was the coolest June since 1991. Six below average months on the trot. Coldest March to June period since 1891


All of which is curious because I've kept reading in the model thread over the last month about how warm it was going to be. There were posts actually reporting cool conditions, but few actually forecasting them, yet I could've sworn I saw such conditions projected in the models. What could explain this apparent paradox?


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


Probably the fact that we had several periods of warm, sunny, weather for many with above average day time maximums. In early June, mid June and the end of June.


Despite that other periods of cooler weather and cooler night temperatures kept the average down.


But to be honest you are well aware of that and so I'm not sure what your question is?

Younger Dryas
30 June 2013 20:13:40



I calculate the final CET to be 13.67c, probably a few hundredths less than what GW will find it to be, but my mean absolute error for the last 3 months is 0.05c, so the Hadley value should be close to this.


June was only 0.14c warmer than last year and, but for last year, it was the coolest June since 1991. Six below average months on the trot. Coldest March to June period since 1891


All of which is curious because I've kept reading in the model thread over the last month about how warm it was going to be. There were posts actually reporting cool conditions, but few actually forecasting them, yet I could've sworn I saw such conditions projected in the models. What could explain this apparent paradox?


Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 


Probably the fact that we had several periods of warm, sunny, weather for many with above average day time maximums. In early June, mid June and the end of June.


Despite that other periods of cooler weather and cooler night temperatures kept the average down.


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


My data show that, in fact, maximum temperatures were actually more below average than minimum temperatures, at 0.9c below average. I would be surprised if GW and Hadley do not show the same. So, in fact, there can't have been such periods of above average maxima throughout June - more like the reverse, that there were lengthy periods of below average maxima. That is my point. Perception regarding the month is divorced from the reality

Steam Fog
30 June 2013 20:15:44




I calculate the final CET to be 13.67c, probably afew hundredthsless than what GW will find it to be, but my mean absolute error for the last 3 months is 0.05c, sothe Hadleyvalue should be close to this.
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Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


Probably the fact that we had several periods of warm, sunny, weather for many with above average day time maximums. In early June, mid June and the end of June.
Despite that other periods of cooler weather and cooler night temperatures kept the average down.

Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 


My data showthat, in fact,maximum temperatures were actually more below average than minimum temperatures, at 0.9c below average. I would be surprised if GW and Hadley do not show the same. So, in fact, there can't have been such periods of above average maxima throughout June - more like the reverse, thatthere were lengthy periods of below averagemaxima.That is my point. Perception regarding the month is divorced from the realityUserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


The average maximum temperature so far this June is 17.1°C which is very close to the long-term average of 17.3 °C.
Looking at the individual countries, Scotland and Northern Ireland have had slightly above average temperatures so far. Scotland’s mean temperature has been 11.5 °C (0.2 °C above average) and Northern Ireland’s has been 13.0 °C (0.2 °C above average).

Frankly as you are more than well aware the majority of the population (not all) hope for warm weather in summer. Hence the tendency to be looking for warm weather. The reverse often tends to be the case in winter. If you are trying to use content of the Model Output thread to gauge people's perception (rather than perhaps there hopes) then you may be making an error.

There were not of course above average maxima "throughout" June, there were however three distinct periods as described above which were above average (in the first case accompanied by low nightime temperatures). Funnily enough given that for most people these were of more interest than the meh cooler periods they attracted more comment on the model output thread.
Younger Dryas
30 June 2013 20:20:12





I calculate the final CET to be 13.67c, probably a few hundredths less than what GW will find it to be, but my mean absolute error for the last 3 months is 0.05c, so the Hadley value should be close to this.


June was only 0.14c warmer than last year and, but for last year, it was the coolest June since 1991. Six below average months on the trot. Coldest March to June period since 1891


All of which is curious because I've kept reading in the model thread over the last month about how warm it was going to be. There were posts actually reporting cool conditions, but few actually forecasting them, yet I could've sworn I saw such conditions projected in the models. What could explain this apparent paradox?


Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 


Probably the fact that we had several periods of warm, sunny, weather for many with above average day time maximums. In early June, mid June and the end of June.


Despite that other periods of cooler weather and cooler night temperatures kept the average down.


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


My data show that, in fact, maximum temperatures were actually more below average than minimum temperatures, at 0.9c below average. I would be surprised if GW and Hadley do not show the same. So, in fact, there can't have been such periods of above average maxima throughout June - more like the reverse, that there were lengthy periods of below average maxima. That is my point. Perception regarding the month is divorced from the reality


Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 


The average maximum temperature so far this June is 17.1°C which is very close to the long-term average of 17.3 °C.


Looking at the individual countries, Scotland and Northern Ireland have had slightly above average temperatures so far.  Scotland’s mean temperature has been 11.5 °C (0.2 °C above average) and Northern Ireland’s has been 13.0 °C (0.2 °C above average).


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


I am talking about CET temperatures. I made no claim regarding other series. The CET will be near 0.5c below average and, within that, CET maxima will be even cooler.

Steam Fog
30 June 2013 20:21:34






I calculate the final CET to be 13.67c, probably a few hundredths less than what GW will find it to be, but my mean absolute error for the last 3 months is 0.05c, so the Hadley value should be close to this.


June was only 0.14c warmer than last year and, but for last year, it was the coolest June since 1991. Six below average months on the trot. Coldest March to June period since 1891


All of which is curious because I've kept reading in the model thread over the last month about how warm it was going to be. There were posts actually reporting cool conditions, but few actually forecasting them, yet I could've sworn I saw such conditions projected in the models. What could explain this apparent paradox?


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


Probably the fact that we had several periods of warm, sunny, weather for many with above average day time maximums. In early June, mid June and the end of June.


Despite that other periods of cooler weather and cooler night temperatures kept the average down.


Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 


My data show that, in fact, maximum temperatures were actually more below average than minimum temperatures, at 0.9c below average. I would be surprised if GW and Hadley do not show the same. So, in fact, there can't have been such periods of above average maxima throughout June - more like the reverse, that there were lengthy periods of below average maxima. That is my point. Perception regarding the month is divorced from the reality


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


The average maximum temperature so far this June is 17.1°C which is very close to the long-term average of 17.3 °C.


Looking at the individual countries, Scotland and Northern Ireland have had slightly above average temperatures so far.  Scotland’s mean temperature has been 11.5 °C (0.2 °C above average) and Northern Ireland’s has been 13.0 °C (0.2 °C above average).


Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 


I am talking about CET temperatures. I made no claim regarding other series. The CET will be near 0.5c below average and, within that, CET maxima will be even cooler.


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


Well again you are making an error if you think comments on the model output thread apply in any way only to the CET area.

Younger Dryas
30 June 2013 20:25:21







I calculate the final CET to be 13.67c, probably a few hundredths less than what GW will find it to be, but my mean absolute error for the last 3 months is 0.05c, so the Hadley value should be close to this.


June was only 0.14c warmer than last year and, but for last year, it was the coolest June since 1991. Six below average months on the trot. Coldest March to June period since 1891


All of which is curious because I've kept reading in the model thread over the last month about how warm it was going to be. There were posts actually reporting cool conditions, but few actually forecasting them, yet I could've sworn I saw such conditions projected in the models. What could explain this apparent paradox?


Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 


Probably the fact that we had several periods of warm, sunny, weather for many with above average day time maximums. In early June, mid June and the end of June.


Despite that other periods of cooler weather and cooler night temperatures kept the average down.


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


My data show that, in fact, maximum temperatures were actually more below average than minimum temperatures, at 0.9c below average. I would be surprised if GW and Hadley do not show the same. So, in fact, there can't have been such periods of above average maxima throughout June - more like the reverse, that there were lengthy periods of below average maxima. That is my point. Perception regarding the month is divorced from the reality


Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 


The average maximum temperature so far this June is 17.1°C which is very close to the long-term average of 17.3 °C.


Looking at the individual countries, Scotland and Northern Ireland have had slightly above average temperatures so far.  Scotland’s mean temperature has been 11.5 °C (0.2 °C above average) and Northern Ireland’s has been 13.0 °C (0.2 °C above average).


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


I am talking about CET temperatures. I made no claim regarding other series. The CET will be near 0.5c below average and, within that, CET maxima will be even cooler.


Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 


Well again you are making an error if you think comments on the model output thread apply in any way only to the CET area.


Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas 


Most comments on model output apply to the SE only, where, if anything, I believe that it will have been even cooler than the CET anomaly due to persistent NE winds

Steam Fog
30 June 2013 20:36:30
Again what is your point? There were warmer periods of weather in early June, mid June and the end of June. Being June people talked about the potential for this warmer weather.

The model outlook thread is a poor place to go for some sort of crowd sourcing way to identify people's perceptions.

Precisely the same is true in winter when people tend to get more excited and talk more about cold weather.

I'm surprised this seems to surprise you.

It's also tosh to say most comments on the MO thread relate only to the SE, or if they do probably only as a proportion to the population.
ARTzeman
01 July 2013 07:44:21

My Mean for June ends at 14.8 C.






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