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Gooner
15 July 2013 19:03:21


The heat continues again tonight, nights are very uncomfortable it has to be said


Originally Posted by: Matty H 




Brilliant isn't it? BigGrin Approve

We have a large tower fan. Feels lovely

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


So do we Matty but it drives me bloody potty , I switch it off when I get into bed


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


ghawes
15 July 2013 19:06:08

Long spells of sunshine, blue skies, fresh westerly breeze, max of 24c.


Current synoptics are just about perfect for NE Fife - wish the high wasn't going to build in later in the week, thereby increasing the haar/low cloud risk.


Graeme
East Neuk of Fife



TimS
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15 July 2013 19:08:50
Nights have indeed been pleasant. I prefer them thoroughly unpleasant and insomnia inducing myself, though. A bit more like that this week. Last week indoor temps here in South London were between 19 and 22c (it is always cooler here inside than out in summer) but finally they are rising to respectable levels of 24-25c.

For a heatwave to truly bear the name it needs to be capable of inducing reckless late night swims or hosepipe fights, otherwise it is just a warm spell. It also needs to involve at least the hint of dangerous water shortages and stand pipes.

I.e. Winter-March 2012 followed by April-July 2013, or summer 1995 followed by autumn 2003.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Matty H
15 July 2013 19:08:52


The heat continues again tonight, nights are very uncomfortable it has to be said


Originally Posted by: Gooner 




Brilliant isn't it? BigGrin Approve

We have a large tower fan. Feels lovely

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


So do we Matty but it drives me bloody potty , I switch it off when I get into bed

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



I love it. To me it's the sound of summer [sn_appr]
Gooner
15 July 2013 19:13:18

Nights have indeed been pleasant. I prefer them thoroughly unpleasant and insomnia inducing myself, though. A bit more like that this week. Last week indoor temps here in South London were between 19 and 22c (it is always cooler here inside than out in summer) but finally they are rising to respectable levels of 24-25c.

For a heatwave to truly bear the name it needs to be capable of inducing reckless late night swims or hosepipe fights, otherwise it is just a warm spell. It also needs to involve at least the hint of dangerous water shortages and stand pipes.

I.e. Winter-March 2012 followed by April-July 2013, or summer 1995 followed by autumn 2003.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


That has been the norm in my back garden for a week now , it is a heatwave in my book already


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Jive Buddy
15 July 2013 19:14:44

A 'shade' over 25C here today, but felt much hotter than of late, thanks to very little ifor a change! Perfect photography weather, for BA's first A380 making her first visit to Manston, accompanied by 2 Reds


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Crepuscular Ray
15 July 2013 19:15:51
Cooler here Graeme as the cloud fed east through the central belt all day. Briefly reached 20 in a rogue sunny spell but mostly cloudy
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
DeeDee
15 July 2013 19:38:45
Heres a light hearted look at the Summer of '76

http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/18-photos-of-the-uk-heatwave-of-1976 

Harpenden, Herts.
Rob K
15 July 2013 19:45:36
Looks like today's max was 30.9C at Heathrow. Good but could do better!
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Matty H
15 July 2013 19:47:39
As Heathrow is often the hottest area, it makes you wonder how well shielded or positioned the sensor is.
LeedsLad123
15 July 2013 19:52:07

According to Ian Fergusson, the hazy skies of late could be down to the forest fires in Quebec, with the smoke getting trapped within the high pressure.


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
NickR
15 July 2013 20:17:54
26.6°C max today. Felt gorgeously hot all day.

We are regularly hitting around 26°C as a kind of default temperature in this hot spell, which is incredible for here, and really VERY pleasant indeed.
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Durham
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NickR
15 July 2013 20:18:35

As Heathrow is often the hottest area, it makes you wonder how well shielded or positioned the sensor is.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Just where the planes' afterburners kick in.


Nick
Durham
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Rob K
15 July 2013 20:22:06


As Heathrow is often the hottest area, it makes you wonder how well shielded or positioned the sensor is.

Originally Posted by: NickR 


Just where the planes' afterburners kick in.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I think it is just the fact that there is a vast expanse of tarmac and concrete which gets heated up by the sun and warms the surface layer of air. Even with a well shielded sensor, it will still be affected by all that warmth.


But you get a similar local effect with other surfaces too, for instance I was at Frensham Pond today which is in a dip (obviously) and has lots of bare dry sand that gets heated up by the sun. I bet if you put a proper Stevenson screen out there in the middle of the "beach" it would be a degree or two higher than surrounding areas.


Plus Heathrow is in one of the generally hottest parts of the UK anyway. In summer months the maxima usually go to places around the M25 to the west of London, e.g. Northolt, Wisley, Heathrow...


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
DaveinHull
15 July 2013 20:27:24

Very warm up here to day with Hull reaching 28c.

Stormchaser
15 July 2013 20:47:19

A vast swathe of high cloud has moved up from the south, spawing over central France:


http://www.sat24.com/en/gb?ir=true


While the surface synoptics do not support that airflow, the upper air charts show a weak circulation over France with southerlies up the western side - so that's probably what's driving that high cloud along.


http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20130715/12/06/hgt300.png


There's the chart to show what I'm talking about


What's creating the high cloud in the first place? Well something is seeding the development, which might be either anomalous dust (Saharan?), unusual amounts of aircraft fumes (unlikely) or smoke particles from the Canadian fires, which could have wrapped around our high and then slid down across France from the NE. That last one could be the most likely IMO.




The effect of that high cloud looks to be to keep temps up into the high teens widely, with 21°C a possible minimum in London. The question is, will it clear by tomorrow? Some forecasts have my location cloudy but in the high-20's tomorrow, which can only be if it's thin high cloud.


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Medlock Vale Weather
15 July 2013 21:06:19


The heat continues again tonight, nights are very uncomfortable it has to be said


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 



Actually that is something that I have not noticed, the nights have been actually OK here. We had fog this morning and it felt chilly in the fog.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Yes I remember during Summer 2003 and 2006 sat here in this study room sweating my arse off, not done that at all this time. During this spell I've only sweated when first waking up in the bedroom but that's only because of a biggish duvet cover on us and the room being over 25C.


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richardabdn
15 July 2013 21:51:05

24.2C here today. I don't think we are going to get any noteworthy temperatures from this spell which I'm not bothered about. What I am disappointed in the amount of cloud. I got 10 hours sun today but there was a huge amount of cloud just to the north which kept encroaching on us. 


There's just been far too much cloud and very little clear blue skies throughout the whole spell. The best days here were the 5th and 6th. Since then no day has managed even 11 hours of sunshine and the average has been only 7.8 hours sun a day - not even 50% of possible despite high pressure being almost right over us the whole time. The best July's have averaged more than that for the whole month, including periods with less settled synoptics. 




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idj20
15 July 2013 22:17:25

This will be most of us tonight . . .


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Gooner
15 July 2013 22:29:11


This will be most of us tonight . . .


Originally Posted by: idj20 


lol


I'm too hot even with the covers off


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hamptonian
15 July 2013 22:33:31


As Heathrow is often the hottest area, it makes you wonder how well shielded or positioned the sensor is.

Originally Posted by: NickR 


Just where the planes' afterburners kick in.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Or maybe it is just that hot. It definitely feels it. With the tarmac and airplane action, I'm surprised it doesn't get hotter than it actually does. Northolt and Wisley (much more rural) usually come fairly close.

SydneyonTees
15 July 2013 23:00:29

Been keeping a close tab on this heatwave for the UK, it needs to ramp up on the excitement levels a little.


When we get a long heatwave here (temps pushing 45c) a southerly buster moves up the coast guarenteed after at least a few weeks, the temp gradient can be amazing with a morning temp of 40c and falling to 17c after the change! With the change comes a massive roll cloud, storms and big hail before the heatwave rebuilds again for another reload.


If I were in the UK I would want to see some instability start to grow. Plenty of the UK summer left for another heatwave reload


Enjoy it anyway, make the most of it.


 

Jiries
15 July 2013 23:09:34



As Heathrow is often the hottest area, it makes you wonder how well shielded or positioned the sensor is.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Just where the planes' afterburners kick in.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


I think it is just the fact that there is a vast expanse of tarmac and concrete which gets heated up by the sun and warms the surface layer of air. Even with a well shielded sensor, it will still be affected by all that warmth.


But you get a similar local effect with other surfaces too, for instance I was at Frensham Pond today which is in a dip (obviously) and has lots of bare dry sand that gets heated up by the sun. I bet if you put a proper Stevenson screen out there in the middle of the "beach" it would be a degree or two higher than surrounding areas.


Plus Heathrow is in one of the generally hottest parts of the UK anyway. In summer months the maxima usually go to places around the M25 to the west of London, e.g. Northolt, Wisley, Heathrow...


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


When I drove back via M25 the temps was around 32-33C on the A3 until Junction 14 on M25 the temps rose to 34C briefly before dropping back to 32C then 31C on M4 toward Slough.

picturesareme
16 July 2013 01:19:18



As Heathrow is often the hottest area, it makes you wonder how well shielded or positioned the sensor is.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Just where the planes' afterburners kick in.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


I think it is just the fact that there is a vast expanse of tarmac and concrete which gets heated up by the sun and warms the surface layer of air. Even with a well shielded sensor, it will still be affected by all that warmth.


But you get a similar local effect with other surfaces too, for instance I was at Frensham Pond today which is in a dip (obviously) and has lots of bare dry sand that gets heated up by the sun. I bet if you put a proper Stevenson screen out there in the middle of the "beach" it would be a degree or two higher than surrounding areas.


Plus Heathrow is in one of the generally hottest parts of the UK anyway. In summer months the maxima usually go to places around the M25 to the west of London, e.g. Northolt, Wisley, Heathrow...


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


but equally also go to place's like Solent, thorney, otterborne water works, or... gravesend, manston, hurn.


But i do think though you are bang on the mark in your opening paragraph :)  However as somebody else has mentioned (jokingly i suspect) i think it could be effected by the plane's. I estimate the station to be about 150m from the north runway.


 


https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?safe=off&q=51.479++-0.449&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x4876723630cd76f1:0x938faf73ad58c7fa,51.479++-0.449&gl=uk&ei=gJzkUYrwH82X0AXkn4CoBg&ved=0CDIQ8gEwAQ

LeedsLad123
16 July 2013 03:05:18

This is where the Heathrow station is located:



 


And here is the station itself:



Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.

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