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Gavin P
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28 July 2013 09:23:48

Hello folks,


The Sunday video this week is a solar cycle's update;


Solar Cycle 24 Update And Hot Summer 2013:


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/sc24-25.html


Solar activity has become very weak after a brief second peak in the spring.


Enjoy.


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Solar Cycles
28 July 2013 09:59:35


Hello folks,


The Sunday video this week is a solar cycle's update;


Solar Cycle 24 Update And Hot Summer 2013:


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Solar activity has become very weak after a brief second peak in the spring.


Enjoy.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

Good stuff Gav, one thing of note I wouldn't put much faith in Hathaway's predictions of this cycle as anything he's predicted up until now has been a little off the mark.

roger63
28 July 2013 12:04:24

[quote=Gavin P;519010]


Hello folks,


The Sunday video this week is a solar cycle's update;


Solar Cycle 24 Update And Hot Summer 2013:


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Solar activity has become very weak after a brief second peak in the spring.


Enjoy.


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Thanks Gavin.Fascinating.Re double peak cycle 24 agree it looks as though second peak has aleady ocurred although some of  experts were predicting second peak would be late Autum early winter 2013/4.


Broadly agere with your assertion that weak solar cycles favour colder winters this seems to be particularly around time of solar minimum.


which brings us to cycle 25 which many experts predict will be weaker than 24, giving a mouth watering prospect of a Dalton Minimum hand some really severe winters. 

Gavin P
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28 July 2013 14:52:35

Thanks guys.


SC, pleased you enjoyed.


Roger, SC25, on current projections, is certainly a mouth-watering, if chilling, prospect.


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Gooner
28 July 2013 16:05:32

Watch the Winter be the mildest on record


 


Cheers Gav


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Gavin P
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28 July 2013 16:50:23


Watch the Winter be the mildest on record


 


Cheers Gav


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Actually it's perfectly possible that it could be very mild - We're certainly due one - If weak solar cycle's mean anything it's extreme weather with dramatic swings between extremities.


The CET record shows that even in the LIA very mild winters did occur on occasion. I wouldn't be at all surprised if winter 13/14 was entirely snowless.


Equally I wouldn't be at all surprised if we was buired in snow....


We could also see big swings within the season itself, so we could get a very mild month and a very cold month within the season.


  


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Dougie
28 July 2013 18:10:24

Interesting, thanks Gavin


Ha'way the lads
Frostbite80
29 July 2013 00:20:14


Watch the Winter be the mildest on record

Cheers Gav

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Actually it's perfectly possible that it could be very mild - We're certainly due one - If weak solar cycle's mean anything it's extreme weather with dramatic swings between extremities.
The CET record shows that even in the LIA very mild winters did occur on occasion. I wouldn't be at all surprised if winter 13/14 was entirely snowless.
Equally I wouldn't be at all surprised if we was buired in snow....
We could also see big swings within the season itself, so we could get a very mild month and a very cold month within the season.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

i hope that's not your early winter forecast Gavin......if it is you may get a fair bit of stick lol ;-)

Gavin P
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29 July 2013 08:09:36


Watch the Winter be the mildest on record

Cheers Gav

Originally Posted by: Frostbite80 


Actually it's perfectly possible that it could be very mild - We're certainly due one - If weak solar cycle's mean anything it's extreme weather with dramatic swings between extremities.
The CET record shows that even in the LIA very mild winters did occur on occasion. I wouldn't be at all surprised if winter 13/14 was entirely snowless.
Equally I wouldn't be at all surprised if we was buired in snow....
We could also see big swings within the season itself, so we could get a very mild month and a very cold month within the season.

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

i hope that's not your early winter forecast Gavin......if it is you may get a fair bit of stick lol ;-)

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


My winter forecast will be issued late November/early December as always.


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Justin W
29 July 2013 08:49:54


My winter forecast will be issued late November/early December as always.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


GLOSEA suggesting that late autumn/early winter is more likely to be average to mild than average to cold. 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/seasonal-to-decadal/gpc-outlooks/glob-seas-prob


We are certainly due a very mild winter.


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SydneyonTees
29 July 2013 09:08:19

Am I the only one who spotted the rude drawing at 4:42 


Sorry, my filthy and immature mind 

Solar Cycles
29 July 2013 09:09:12



My winter forecast will be issued late November/early December as always.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


GLOSEA suggesting that late autumn/early winter is more likely to be average to mild than average to cold. 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/seasonal-to-decadal/gpc-outlooks/glob-seas-prob


We are certainly due a very mild winter.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

The trouble is with GLOSEA is that it's wrong most of the time. The CFSV2 model for me is the form horse when it comes to LRF, that's not to say  it's accurate but it does have a better record then the others over the last 18 months. No doubt someone will produce some data showing that I'm talking cobblers, again! 

Charmhills
29 July 2013 09:16:59



My winter forecast will be issued late November/early December as always.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


GLOSEA suggesting that late autumn/early winter is more likely to be average to mild than average to cold. 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/seasonal-to-decadal/gpc-outlooks/glob-seas-prob


We are certainly due a very mild winter.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


It doesn't have to be very mild, just mild, Atlantic dominated winter.


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Duane.
Scandy 1050 MB
29 July 2013 09:39:31




My winter forecast will be issued late November/early December as always.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


GLOSEA suggesting that late autumn/early winter is more likely to be average to mild than average to cold. 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/seasonal-to-decadal/gpc-outlooks/glob-seas-prob


We are certainly due a very mild winter.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


It doesn't have to be very mild, just mild, Atlantic dominated winter.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Take early February out of the equation and you could argue 2011/ 2012 was our mild winter in the midst of the current run of colder than average winters? 2011 had a very mild Autumn (early October with record breaking heat at the start) and November very mild too. December was very westerly and only at the very end of January into February did we have a short spell of Winter followed by a warm March and cold April. Given the decline in solar activity expected, I would not be surprised to see a winter of two halves with late December onwards becoming very cold and blocked - no one knows for certain of course but I look forward to the first Winter video from Gavin.

Gavin P
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29 July 2013 10:19:19



My winter forecast will be issued late November/early December as always.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


GLOSEA suggesting that late autumn/early winter is more likely to be average to mild than average to cold. 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/seasonal-to-decadal/gpc-outlooks/glob-seas-prob


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


However, if you look at  ensemble mean sea level pressure for Oct-Dec things are looking very blockey around Iceland again;


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/seasonal-to-decadal/gpc-outlooks/ens-mean




Am I the only one who spotted the rude drawing at 4:42


Sorry, my filthy and immature mind


Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


Filth.



 


Take early February out of the equation and you could argue 2011/ 2012 was our mild winter in the midst of the current run of colder than average winters? 2011 had a very mild Autumn (early October with record breaking heat at the start) and November very mild too. December was very westerly and only at the very end of January into February did we have a short spell of Winter followed by a warm March and cold April. Given the decline in solar activity expected, I would not be surprised to see a winter of two halves with late December onwards becoming very cold and blocked - no one knows for certain of course but I look forward to the first Winter video from Gavin.


Originally Posted by: Scandy 1050 MB 


Yes, 11/12 was a pretty pretty mild winter with one intense cold spell.


Thanks for your kind comments. Things will start happening from September onwards as I start looking at the things I put into winter forecasts and it will all build to the actual forecast at the end of November.


 


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Stormchaser
29 July 2013 19:26:00

Thanks for the vid Gavin, good quality as always


Those talking of winter... early signals are a strange combination of some high-lat. blocking and anomalously high heights across Europe. Technically I think this is possible if the high-lat. blocks locate in precisely the right/wrong (delete as appropriate) places.


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